Sword Build From An Axe User

tebuddy

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2007

28 Nov 2007 at 05:27 - 1

I created this build because I was interested in switching over from axes for general PvE use. Suggestions are appreciated.

I own prophecies and nightfall.

I do not own factions, so do not suggest skills such as [skill]Dragon Slash[/skill] or [skill]Sun And Moon Slash[/skill]

Attributes:

Strength: 2 + 1 + 1
Swordmanship: 12 + 2
Tactics : 12 + 1

[skill]Soldier's Strike[/skill][skill]Crippling Slash[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Galrath Slash[/skill][skill]Flail[/skill][skill]Enraging Charge[/skill][skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

Seems to have decent dps:

MBP

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Arizona

Clanless Fraggers

R/Mo

28 Nov 2007 at 05:51 - 2

pretty standard stuff

you can probably go without the soldier's strike though

I'd replace it with wild blow or watch yourself personally

or you could go w/e for a conjure

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

28 Nov 2007 at 08:31 - 3

Soldiers Strike out, utility/selfheal in. Otherwise you've hit the nail right on the head.

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

28 Nov 2007 at 10:56 - 4

Actually... Given the skills available, and your rune/equipment spread...

I'd go...
8+1+1 Strength (3 adrenaline breakpoint on Charge, longer Flail)
12+2 Swordsmanship
10+1 Tactics

Then... in difference to what ^^^ they say, it isn't so clear-cut whether Soldier's Strike or Galrath Slash is a better attack...

At my suggested spec, Galrath is a +37 damage attack requiring 8 adrenaline - under FGJ!, that'd take about the same time to recycle as Soldier's Strike.
However, at 11 spec, SS deals... +34 damage, and is spammable even when not under FGJ! If you go and replace Galrath Slash with "Watch Yourself!" it becomes unblockable all the time, too.

Of course, using both is fine - I just prefer having utility skills like "Watch Yourself!" or Savage Slash on a warrior bar.

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

28 Nov 2007 at 16:19 - 5

The build looks solid.

Depending on your party you may drop the res signet for either a self heal or [skill]Final Thrust[/skill] so you have a nice spike dmg attack to kill stuff faster.

tebuddy

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2007

28 Nov 2007 at 22:36 - 6

Latest:

Strength: 8 + 1 + 1
Swordsmanship: 12 + 2
Tactics: 10 + 2

[skill]Savage Slash[/skill][skill]Soldier's Strike[/skill][skill]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill][skill]Crippling Slash[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Flail[/skill][skill]Enraging Charge[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

28 Nov 2007 at 23:24 - 7

I would go like this
[skill]Standing Slash[/skill][skill]Silverwing Slash[/skill][skill]Dragon Slash[/skill]you can choose to run a heal or not to since you already know Warrior the rest you do know.This is for fleshies as well as non fleshies.

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

28 Nov 2007 at 23:51 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Age

Age, reading is a very useful skill to have.

Quote:

I do not own factions, so do not suggest skills such as [skill]Dragon Slash[/skill] or [skill]Sun And Moon Slash[/skill] OP: Looking good.

Savage Slash is fun

Xue Fang

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2007

28 Nov 2007 at 23:57 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Age, reading is a very useful skill to have.
So is using inefficient rune/attribute spreads!!

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

29 Nov 2007 at 04:04 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by tebuddy

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

29 Nov 2007 at 04:49 - 11

needs moar healsig

skydrake

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

Seventh Dimension

E/Me

29 Nov 2007 at 07:19 - 12

I personally find that Rage of Ntouka is a fun skill to use.

Strength: 9 + 1 (or 12 + 1)
Swordsmanship: 12 + 1 + 3
Tactics: 9 + 1 (or 3 + 1)

Basic build is:
[skill]Rage of the Ntouka[/skill][skill]Flail[/skill][skill]Enraging Charge[/skill] or [skill]Rush[/skill]

Sword skill is (pick 3):
[skill]Sever Artery[/skill] or [skill]Barbarous Slice[/skill] Make sure that you don't use Barbarous Slice while using flail if you want to inflict bleeding
[skill]Gash[/skill]
[skill]Final Thrust[/skill]
[skill]Galrath Slash[/skill]

Last slot utilities:
[skill]Plague Touch[/skill]
[skill]Mending Touch[/skill] *edited* Mend Condition was a mistake. Thanks for pointing out

[skill]Rending Touch[/skill]
[skill]Lion's Comfort[/skill]
[skill]Healing Signet[/skill]

And of course rez

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

29 Nov 2007 at 10:21 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by skydrake

Last slot utilities:
[skill]Plague Touch[/skill]
[skill]Mend Condition[/skill]
[skill]Rending Touch[/skill]
[skill]Lion's Comfort[/skill]
[skill]Healing Signet[/skill]

And of course rez Why [skill]Mend Condition[/skill] over [skill]Mending Touch[/skill]

A Leprechaun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

29 Nov 2007 at 12:18 - 14

I guess for the shorter recharge. Mending tough is quite long to recharge.

~A Leprechaun~

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

29 Nov 2007 at 12:25 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coloneh

needs moar healsig Not really, tbh.
In a hero/hench group, it's a really marginal skill if you don't suck, and virtually never gets used.
I've not touched healsig in PvE for a few months now, and having that extra slot is awesome, especially with all the sweet PvE skills you could be using in that slot instead.

PuGs are another matter... But who Pugs anymore?

Magikarp

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2007

[HAWK]

29 Nov 2007 at 15:12 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Not really, tbh.
In a hero/hench group, it's a really marginal skill if you don't suck, and virtually never gets used.
I've not touched healsig in PvE for a few months now, and having that extra slot is awesome, especially with all the sweet PvE skills you could be using in that slot instead.

PuGs are another matter... But who Pugs anymore?

i agree. 12 12 12

iridescentfyre

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

29 Nov 2007 at 15:30 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by skydrake

[skill]Mend Condition[/skill] "Target other ally." Surely you mean [skill=text]Mending Touch[/skill].

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

29 Nov 2007 at 23:52 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Age, reading is a very useful skill to have.

OP: Looking good.

Savage Slash is fun

I didn't read that part but Factions is the best to have for the sword skills alone.there are places I can't use sever/gash in Proph andf in NF presents the same problem mostly skill the cause bleeding.

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

30 Nov 2007 at 02:47 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Leprechaun

I guess for the shorter recharge. Mending tough is quite long to recharge.

~A Leprechaun~ 4 seconds is huuuuuuge!

Seraphim of Chaos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Your Personal Savior [gsus]

W/E

30 Nov 2007 at 02:50 - 20

Cripslash in PvE is generally redundant.

I suggest another elite besides Sword skills. Without Factions, you can't use Dragon Slash or Quivering Blade. That just leaves you with the impotent Cripslash and the usually sucky Hundred Blades. Maybe Headbutt/Plague Touch will be good. xD

MBP

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Arizona

Clanless Fraggers

R/Mo

30 Nov 2007 at 03:30 - 21

another good addition to cripslash builds is to use /N for necrosis

tebuddy

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2007

30 Nov 2007 at 21:00 - 22

Quote:

Cripslash in PvE is generally redundant. Before this I had used hundred blades for the longest time, and it seemed to be working really well (hitting 40, 40 in one attack isn't that bad :/ ). It was only when a guildie informed me that only fags use hundred blades that I decided to switch out XD.

Cripslash has been infinitely more useful in my case (PvE). The ability to cause bleeding, and cripple on a foe, and then inflict deep wound without taking up 3 additional makes me use this build on my warrior often.

iridescentfyre

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

01 Dec 2007 at 13:22 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by tebuddy

Cripslash has been infinitely more useful in my case (PvE). The ability to cause bleeding, and cripple on a foe, and then inflict deep wound without taking up 3 additional makes me use this build on my warrior often. If you don't need the Cripple condition (and in PvE, you rarely do), its nothing more than an elite version of Sever Artery that takes more adrenaline. In my opinion its more of a PvP oriented skill. In a perfect world Dragon Slash or Quivering Blade are the best options, but without Factions I guess you should stick with Crip Slash. You're right though, Hundred Blades is a pathetic elite.

Also, why the Strength helm? Get a sword helm with a sword rune, and an axe helm with an axe rune, and put the Minor Strength rune somewhere else

Crom The Pale

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Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

02 Dec 2007 at 05:17 - 24

ghostlyfenix

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

02 Dec 2007 at 10:55 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

In hard mode everything kites like crazy so crip slash is a solid elite.

Hundred Blades is one of those skills that has a name that sounds awsome, but performance that falls so very very very short of living up to expectations. hundred blades + conjure on a balled mob works pretty good imo, i wouldnt say it aint living up to its expectations [pve]

iridescentfyre

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

02 Dec 2007 at 14:37 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

In hard mode everything kites like crazy They do...but...I dunno. I still feel like its kind of a wasted elite. I've never really felt HM kiting was enough of a big deal to make me not take Dragon Slash. Besides, my Ele heroes usually carry either Deep Freeze or Earthen Shackles anyway.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

02 Dec 2007 at 17:22 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue.rellik

4 seconds is huuuuuuge!
its actually 6!:P

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

03 Dec 2007 at 02:47 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyla salanari

its actually 6!:P touche !

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

03 Dec 2007 at 03:13 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by iridescentfyre

They do...but...I dunno. I still feel like its kind of a wasted elite. I've never really felt HM kiting was enough of a big deal to make me not take Dragon Slash. Besides, my Ele heroes usually carry either Deep Freeze or Earthen Shackles anyway. Basically i've run Cripslash when I feel like using my rits and necros rather than bringing an ele or ranger to snare the kiting casters.