Skull Crushing WITH A SCYTHE!

Theo Godscythe

Theo Godscythe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

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Earth Prayers 8 + 2 (Major Earth Prayers) = 10
Mysticism 10 + 2 (Major Mysticism) = 12
Scythe Mastery 12 + 1 + 3 (Superior Scythe Mastery) = 16



1. Distracting Strike
2. Skull Crack
3. Mystic Sweep
4. Vital Boon
5. Mystic Regeneration
6. Mystic Vigor
7. Shield of Force
8. Resurrection Signet


It may seem weak , considering no one uses Skull Crack , but trust me I use this in Random Arena and it deals some massive damage . I haven’t tried it in PvE but it’s good for PvP.

When fighting Assassins always keep Shield of Force up, it will:
1. Weaken them.
2. Block their first attack, saving you until it recharges.

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

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PLEASE Learn to Spell!

Only 4 of those skills were spelt properly.

Distracting Strike = [wiki]Distracting Blow[/wiki]?
Skull Crush = [wiki]Skull Crack[/wiki]?
Vital Boom = [wiki]Vital Boon[/wiki]?
Mystic Virgo = [wiki]Mystic Vigor[/wiki]?

Can we first start by correcting the spellings?

Doomscreamer

Doomscreamer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

Exiles of the Iron Guard [EotI]

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Spelt= spelled

/fail

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

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Distracting Strike could well be... Distracting Strike

... I win!

and Doomscreamer... Spelt is an acceptable - chiefly British - variant of spelled.

Double win!

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Distracting Strike could well be... Distracting Strike

... I win!
Touché! Though my Warrior has finished EotN, my build hardly differed from before, I must have not noticed that.

My point still stands about the rest of the post.

Quote: Originally Posted by Doomscreamer
Spelt= spelled

/fail The "ed" at the end of "Spelled" is more common in American English. "Spelt" is a perfectly fine alternative in the UK.

/win

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
and Doomscreamer... Spelt is an acceptable - chiefly British - variant of spelled.

Double win! You got in the before me, damn you!

Double Win indeed.

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Comment on the OP's Build. So if Alex is right, and you mean Distracting Strike, why would you want to take that over Distracting Blow in that build, where there is no Cracked Armor?

Doomscreamer

Doomscreamer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

Exiles of the Iron Guard [EotI]

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I am an American, so Americanized English is what I use. Spelt is commonly used to refer to a hexaploid species of wheat, at least in the rest of the world. I don't know the conjugations of words in that lovely country, but according to the Oxford English Dictionary site either would be right.
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/spell_1?view=uk

I concede that I am partially wrong, but not completely. /Partial-Fail

Many apologies if I offended any Brits, it was unintentional

Bassu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Cracow, Poland.

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BrE ftw, in AmE 'r' is pronounced in a funny way ^^ But no offense Americans! ^^

OT:
Build seems ok, especially for RA or so. But I still prefer to stick with Dervish elites But good try

Theo Godscythe

Theo Godscythe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver
PLEASE Learn to Spell!

Only 4 of those skills were spelt properly.

Distracting Strike = [wiki]Distracting Blow[/wiki]?
Skull Crush = [wiki]Skull Crack[/wiki]?
Vital Boom = [wiki]Vital Boon[/wiki]?
Mystic Virgo = [wiki]Mystic Vigor[/wiki]?

Can we first start by correcting the spellings? Please focus on the build analysis, although I am sure ripping on someone who wrote this off the top of their head is fun, I want you people to evaluate the build. Besides most of you know what I mean..sheesh


By the way, if any of you want's to see it's effectiveness, at interrupting, whisper to me in-game and I'll be happy to show you.

PS no anti-melee shutdown bs because then it's obvious I'll loose.

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Theo Godscythe
Please focus on the build analysis, although I am sure ripping on someone who wrote this off the top of their head is fun, I want you people to evaluate the build. Besides most of you know what I mean..sheesh
To be fair, it takes but a moment to scan over it for major errors before you post. Also, you seem to have missed my question:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Me, Yesterday
Comment on the OP's Build. So if Alex is right, and you mean Distracting Strike, why would you want to take that over Distracting Blow in that build, where there is no Cracked Armor?

Seef II

Seef II

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

US

R/Mo

Damage compression, as DBlow doesn't deal any damage. The AoE advantage DBlow has over DStrike is moot on a scythe. Recharge difference is noticeable, though, but if this is PvE your BHA ranger has things covered right?

Theo Godscythe

Theo Godscythe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Seef II
Damage compression, as DBlow doesn't deal any damage. The AoE advantage DBlow has over DStrike is moot on a scythe. Recharge difference is noticeable, though, but if this is PvE your BHA ranger has things covered right? Precisely, Distracting Strike, even though it takes longer to recharge, it does deal damage, unlike Distracting Blow. It usually deals 50-100 damage to casters (60A).

iridescentfyre

iridescentfyre

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver
Comment on the OP's Build. So if Alex is right, and you mean Distracting Strike, why would you want to take that over Distracting Blow in that build, where there is no Cracked Armor?
Same reason you'd use Savage Shot without trying to interrupt anything: its a mini spike.

More pressing issues...Is Skull Crack justified when compared to Reaper's Sweep or Wounding Strike? Personally, I've never completely believed that Skull Crack was such a bad elite; dazing is awesome. But your lack of a Deep Wound is troublesome. Your rune setup is horrible. A Superior and two Majors is -145hp. You should run with all Minors preferably, a single Major if you must. You need high HP in PvP, 500-600. Besides, 14 Scythe is not noticeably less damage than 16. I don't think Shield of Force is a good choice. I'd take an IAS instead. Heart of Fury might be a good choice. Weakening Assassins isn't as effective as it seems, because 90% of their damage comes from armor-ignoring +damage bonuses that Weakness doesn't affect.

Theo Godscythe

Theo Godscythe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by iridescentfyre
Same reason you'd use Savage Shot without trying to interrupt anything: its a mini spike.

More pressing issues...Is Skull Crack justified when compared to Reaper's Sweep or Wounding Strike? Personally, I've never completely believed that Skull Crack was such a bad elite; dazing is awesome. But your lack of a Deep Wound is troublesome. Your rune setup is horrible. A Superior and two Majors is -145hp. You should run with all Minors preferably, a single Major if you must. You need high HP in PvP, 500-600. Besides, 14 Scythe is not noticeably less damage than 16. I don't think Shield of Force is a good choice. I'd take an IAS instead. Heart of Fury might be a good choice. Weakening Assassins isn't as effective as it seems, because 90% of their damage comes from armor-ignoring +damage bonuses that Weakness doesn't affect. I usually play with 410 HP and I fair well...
Skull Crack is good if you time well, of course you need to be good prediction your opponent...
Shield of Force is not necessarily for Assissin, I just gave that example, you can use it to:
1. Protect yourself from interrupt while rezing.
2. Stop an Assassin's combo.
3. Stop attack based Kds.
4. Stop Burning Arrow.
5. Stop annoying/painful attacks.

This build is mostly for having fun, so I never intended it to be an expert PvP build.

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Theo Godscythe
I usually play with 410 HP and I fair well... if you think you fare well at 410hp then you dont know what "fairing well" is.

Theo Godscythe

Theo Godscythe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloneh
if you think you fare well at 410hp then you dont know what "fairing well" is.
Then explain to me, in your infinite knowledge, what "fairing well" means all mighty Coloneh.

*Rolls eyes*

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Theo Godscythe
Then explain to me, in your infinite knowledge, what "fairing well" means all mighty Coloneh.

*Rolls eyes* About 600hp. Simple.

6am3 Fana71c

6am3 Fana71c

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

This thread is epic fail. Nuff said.

Sister Rosette

Sister Rosette

Lady Fie

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sapporo

Tha Skulls [Ts]

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Still, I kinda wish there was a skill called 'Vital Boom' now....

GourangaPizza

GourangaPizza

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

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Charging up for 9 strikes of adrenaline just to cause 10 seconds of conditional daze? I would rather go with YAA.

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

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YAA dosnt cause dazed.... thats not compareable.

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

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I'd rather go with Zho [Interrupt Henchmen]

Turtle222

Turtle222

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doomscreamer
Many apologies if I offended any Brits, it was unintentional ahh im going to bash you init blud , brap brap

deluxe

deluxe

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Monkeyball Z

S.K.A.T. [Ban]

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I used skullcrack on w/d fow duo, could kill the 4 monk group there with ease.

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doomscreamer
I am an American, so Americanized English is what I use. Spelt is commonly used to refer to a hexaploid species of wheat, at least in the rest of the world. I don't know the conjugations of words in that lovely country, but according to the Oxford English Dictionary site either would be right.
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/spell_1?view=uk

I concede that I am partially wrong, but not completely. /Partial-Fail

Many apologies if I offended any Brits, it was unintentional 'Spelt' is also used in Australia. America is not the only country in the world

Doomscreamer

Doomscreamer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

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Funny you felt the need to post this. I realize America is not the only country in the world, thus the apology. So are you an American hater, or one of those people who assumes that we Americans are automatically rude and ignorant? I apologized, done deal. Australia speaks The Kings English. Many countries in the world learn American English as a second language (to promote trade). It is simply more common these days to use American English.

So, me being the bigger person here, I will also apologize to any Aussies out there. For future reference I apologize to ANY nationalities I may have offended in any way. It was unintentional that I offend anyone.

iridescentfyre

iridescentfyre

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

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Desperately trying to keep this on topic for the OP's sake...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Theo Godscythe
I usually play with 410 HP and I fair well... If it were the difference between 550 and 600, it would be marginal. 410hp vs 600hp, however, is a lot. High HP is definitely needed in PvP where you will (occasionally) face a coordinated spike. Furthermore you're sacrificing all that health for almost no payoff. As I said, 14 Scythe Mastery vs 16 Scythe Mastery is not a significant difference. On a weapon with a damage range as varied as a Scythe it may be around 1-5 damage difference.

Theo Godscythe

Theo Godscythe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by iridescentfyre
Desperately trying to keep this on topic for the OP's sake...


If it were the difference between 550 and 600, it would be marginal. 410hp vs 600hp, however, is a lot. High HP is definitely needed in PvP where you will (occasionally) face a coordinated spike. Furthermore you're sacrificing all that health for almost no payoff. As I said, 14 Scythe Mastery vs 16 Scythe Mastery is not a significant difference. On a weapon with a damage range as varied as a Scythe it may be around 1-5 damage difference. Good point, I usually play just for heck of it, this being a "fun" build, so I hadn't realized that. Thanks for the information.