Originally Posted by Ugoff The Unholy
I disagree. Only when spoken does it sound questionable.
And why would "this being the internet" change the way words are audibly pronounced? |
Banning Bonanza : Plz Gaile Comment = NO QQ PLS
Brianna
Quote:
Kusandaa
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roshi_ikkyu
gees big over statment, the name could be a mistake but the matter of people being offended is relevant.
The 600k trade, might just be a bit fishy. More importantly GURU is not your personal advocate connection to Anet. Tell your "friends" to contact support, and quick attempting to create a moral panic.. Banning bonanza, my butt. Two legit banning isn't excessive. I don't believe your first case, well I should say I feel your neglecting to mention all the details. |
I log on to my other computer and transfer stuff between my primary account, my secondary account and my husband's. Never had a problem, and hopefully never will. Sure it wasn't 600k, but still. Done by the same people in the same guild, so probably people who trust each other, gg.
I don't call those two bans "legit" at all.
lord dragon
Quote:
Originally Posted by Antheus
The only time I've used H/H recently was for skill capping.
The rest is guild groups for HM and PvP, and PUGs for various dungeons, slavers, UW, FoW, .... I have a rare commodity of common sense and etiquette. And I'm sure they were charming people all around, who've had an injustice done. I've seen people banned too. But never someone for offensive language when they didn't deserve it. This statement is so very wrong. |
Daenara
Quote:
Originally Posted by Antheus
Or, have common sense and courtesy. You know, the way you hopefully behave in real life.
Anet's rules and reasons for bans are veeeery mild. It's not easy to get banned in GW. This is why, once they started enforcing bans (they haven't for first 2 years), some found themselves punished. Apart from bot related activites (sorry, playing non-stop for 18 hours for 5 days a week is not normal) and unusual trades, I have yet to see someone get mistakenly banned for making a mistake. |
undeadgun
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daenara
My husband was mistakenly banned. He has never been remotely rude to anyone in game, not sworn, not said anything even close to offensive. He doesn't play 18 hours a day, as anyone with a 3 year old son can tell you that it can't happen. He hasn't done any unusual trades, or moved alot of cash around on his account (we wish!) .
|
Jessica The Mesmer
God I hate you
Quote:
Originally Posted by undeadgun
OMFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG I JUST UNBANNED!!!! OMFG, 2 DAYS!!TY,TYVM!
Hello, Thank you for contact Guild Wars Support. After reviewing the issue, it appears that your account was blocked in error. Your account is now released and you should be able to log in to Guild Wars. I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. Take care, GM Phields The Guild Wars Support Team |
Clarissa F
Mmmm....good way to build up player support when you are working on GW2. The last time I heard of stuff like this was when MS Vista came out.
therangereminem
i posted somthign like this about 8 hours ago they closed it due to flaming by the op,
i stated reasons why faq is banable and you have no reason to say that its not ifyou read the user agreement you would know this.
and not have made a toon with faq in the name, also adressing the money thing yes i do alot of trading too gold wise til i go tnew computer.
like when my girlfriend needed cas i would have a friend holdon to the money, theni would long into my girl's accoutn a dn get it. i have not got banned yet for this , but this is one issue they should fix.
but as far as i see that the only thing wrong with how/report, other then 3 days , ill just play on other accounts, they should bann ip's not just account's
i stated reasons why faq is banable and you have no reason to say that its not ifyou read the user agreement you would know this.
and not have made a toon with faq in the name, also adressing the money thing yes i do alot of trading too gold wise til i go tnew computer.
like when my girlfriend needed cas i would have a friend holdon to the money, theni would long into my girl's accoutn a dn get it. i have not got banned yet for this , but this is one issue they should fix.
but as far as i see that the only thing wrong with how/report, other then 3 days , ill just play on other accounts, they should bann ip's not just account's
Gaile Gray
I am responding immediately to the first post, and will read the thread more fully after this.
Yes, we have had an issue with blocks over the last several days. The issue is connected with the process we have in place to reduce gold selling in the game. Now, most players have noticed the number of bots has dropped dramatically, so that's a major positive. What is a major negative, though, is the fact that a few players moving large amounts of gold between accounts through the help of a friend have found themselves blocked.
We're very sorry for this error, and I am exchanging emails this very hour about the matter. Such blocks should stop within the next few hours, if they have not already ceased now. Any of these sorts of blocks that have taken place can and should be appealed to Support. Well, unless you're a gold seller, in which case, you need not apply.
Again, we're very sorry, and we're working on the case to promptly answer all appeals and to stop the false blocks right away.
Yes, we have had an issue with blocks over the last several days. The issue is connected with the process we have in place to reduce gold selling in the game. Now, most players have noticed the number of bots has dropped dramatically, so that's a major positive. What is a major negative, though, is the fact that a few players moving large amounts of gold between accounts through the help of a friend have found themselves blocked.
We're very sorry for this error, and I am exchanging emails this very hour about the matter. Such blocks should stop within the next few hours, if they have not already ceased now. Any of these sorts of blocks that have taken place can and should be appealed to Support. Well, unless you're a gold seller, in which case, you need not apply.
Again, we're very sorry, and we're working on the case to promptly answer all appeals and to stop the false blocks right away.
therangereminem
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kusandaa
If you're read Carefully, the name IS NOT a mistake, and clearly not intended to break the EULA or offend people. "Faq Quebec" refers to his guild tag and name, Frères D'Armes du Québec (Brothers of Arms of Quebec). It's an abbreviation, nothing more.
I log on to my other computer and transfer stuff between my primary account, my secondary account and my husband's. Never had a problem, and hopefully never will. Sure it wasn't 600k, but still. Done by the same people in the same guild, so probably people who trust each other, gg. I don't call those two bans "legit" at all. |
Brothers of Arms of Quebec DOES NOT = FAQ either all he did was triwst it togather to make faq as a excuse to have the name as faq which is RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO and he knew it
CHunterX
Quote:
Originally Posted by undeadgun
i hope they can give an explaination about what happend over NC soft
|
As you can see, someone hit the Red "Ban Frenzy" button instead of the Purple "Nerf Paragon" button. A simple mistake to see, expect Paragon nerfs in the future when they fix this mistake! So silly to put them so close together!
Gaile Gray
Quote:
Originally Posted by Meat Axe
Anet can't afford to assign staff to constantly watch us in game, which is why they have an automatic ban process set up. To me, it's always seemed that if you have been banned unjustly, and you just take the time to talk to support in a polite manner, they'll look into it and you will more likely than not get unbanned.
|
Anyway, you're mistaken about the first part: We have no "automatic bans." None. Let me make this clear one more time: No one is automatically blocked in Guild Wars. What has occured here is that the people working on the reports are setting blocks based on incomplete information. But believe me, people are setting the blocks, and people will remove them as quickly as they can, based on a support ticket.
lol @ CHunterX. I think you may be on to something, there.
Brianna
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
I am responding immediately to the first post, and will read the thread more fully after this.
Yes, we have had an issue with blocks over the last several days. The issue is connected with the process we have in place to reduce gold selling in the game. Now, most players have noticed the number of bots has dropped dramatically, so that's a major positive. What is a major negative, though, is the fact that a few players moving large amounts of gold between accounts through the help of a friend have found themselves blocked. We're very sorry for this error, and I am exchanging emails this very hour about the matter. Such blocks should stop within the next few hours, if they have not already ceased now. Any of these sorts of blocks that have taken place can and should be appealed to Support. Well, unless you're a gold seller, in which case, you need not apply. Again, we're very sorry, and we're working on the case to promptly answer all appeals and to stop the false blocks right away. |
And I have noticed that there are no bots around, I guess there is in *some* select few places, but if you look at some of the older problematic areas, theres no bots. In fact I found myself asking ''Where did all the bots go?" a few weeks ago. I should go on a hunt, lol.
lord dragon
Quote:
Originally Posted by CHunterX
Heres what happened:
As you can see, someone hit the Red "Ban Frenzy" button instead of the Purple "Nerf Paragon" button. A simple mistake to see, expect Paragon nerfs in the future when they fix this mistake! So silly to put them so close together! |
And thank you Gaile. Is there any hope in at least relooking at the /report system. I don't belive it needs to go away, I do belive it needs to be tweaked in favor of the accused. Maybe it could be innocent until proven guilty????
I am just tired of playing the game with H/H. It is the only way I see to stay out of the /report system now with so many being suspended.
pumpkin pie
I think thats what you say, for the record,
Yes, I do have a trusted, very trusted friend that we transfers stuffs among ourselves.
we stack crafting materials and stuffs and provide service to each other in terms of transfering gold and items from one account to the other, we both have 2 accounts, one extra account for keeping stuffs was created when there's no character slots available, so we do transfers stuffs in bulk, once in a while, we call it storage cleaning.
It would be kind of not fun if we get ban for a periodical storage cleaning.
Yes, I do have a trusted, very trusted friend that we transfers stuffs among ourselves.
we stack crafting materials and stuffs and provide service to each other in terms of transfering gold and items from one account to the other, we both have 2 accounts, one extra account for keeping stuffs was created when there's no character slots available, so we do transfers stuffs in bulk, once in a while, we call it storage cleaning.
It would be kind of not fun if we get ban for a periodical storage cleaning.
Operative 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by CHunterX
Heres what happened:
As you can see, someone hit the Red "Ban Frenzy" button instead of the Purple "Nerf Paragon" button. A simple mistake to see, expect Paragon nerfs in the future when they fix this mistake! So silly to put them so close together! |
therangereminem
Quote:
Originally Posted by CHunterX
Heres what happened:
As you can see, someone hit the Red "Ban Frenzy" button instead of the Purple "Nerf Paragon" button. A simple mistake to see, expect Paragon nerfs in the future when they fix this mistake! So silly to put them so close together! |
Gore
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
I am responding immediately to the first post, and will read the thread more fully after this.
Yes, we have had an issue with blocks over the last several days. The issue is connected with the process we have in place to reduce gold selling in the game. Now, most players have noticed the number of bots has dropped dramatically, so that's a major positive. What is a major negative, though, is the fact that a few players moving large amounts of gold between accounts through the help of a friend have found themselves blocked. We're very sorry for this error, and I am exchanging emails this very hour about the matter. Such blocks should stop within the next few hours, if they have not already ceased now. Any of these sorts of blocks that have taken place can and should be appealed to Support. Well, unless you're a gold seller, in which case, you need not apply. Again, we're very sorry, and we're working on the case to promptly answer all appeals and to stop the false blocks right away. |
Thanks for taking the time here. Yhea the last week was a bit over the edge but as you mentioned it's true, I saw less bots around.
I am sure it's all for the better and nothing can be done in a way that will make 100% of the ingame population totaly happy.
Though a little sugestion for the offensive name tag : Why not giving a 48h to submit a ticket and explain if there are any good reasons for your ingame name. Some are just plain kiddy/offensives but i am sure there are legit ones who are only a language barrier confusion.
Keep up the good work @ Anet and again Ty for passing by,
Boby Gore
Kashrlyyk
Quote:
Originally Posted by Antheus
...Of course it is. Unfortunately, pronounced in English, which is the dominant language in GW, it becomes an insult.
... |
So now we have to think about how it might sound if spoken out loudly, too???
Dione Davore
Anet should start realising how many people actualy play. As they ban thousands of bots and apparently a lot of people have a second account as well.
Kashrlyyk
Quote:
Originally Posted by Operative 14
... If someone made a name in English that was offensive in German and they played in the German districts, I would hope that person would be cuaght. ...
|
The name of one of the bosses is the Polish word for arsehole.
NeHoMaR
FAQ means Frequently Asked Questions, LOL.
http://www.guildwars.com/support/faq <----
BTW, banning a very old character for the name, when he was using the name for ages? lol? the logic is change name, but you can't = bullcrap.
http://www.guildwars.com/support/faq <----
BTW, banning a very old character for the name, when he was using the name for ages? lol? the logic is change name, but you can't = bullcrap.
Gaile Gray
Quote:
Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
It would be kind of not fun if we get ban for a periodical storage cleaning.
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeHoMaR
BTW, banning a very old character for the name, when he was using the name for ages? lol? the logic is change name, but you can't = bullcrap.
|
(I can't comment on the FAQ name. I can see where it could be harmless, or perceived as "creative spelling" for an offensive word..and believe me, I've seen a hundred for that particular word. I'd encourage the person using the name to discuss that matter with Support, as well.)
(Further, the comment about the Polish name: We've sent this over to the attention of the Polish translation team before, and the decision has been that the word/name in question is not an real issue. I will ask again, but this could be a matter here rumour, or someone making a misstatement, is driving the discussion.)
Kusandaa
Quote:
Originally Posted by therangereminem
Frères D'Armes du Québec to abb it wont it be fdq not faq, you can tell its just a made up reason to complain about the banning of his account and him having to delete his account come on do you think we are dumb
Brothers of Arms of Quebec DOES NOT = FAQ either all he did was triwst it togather to make faq as a excuse to have the name as faq which is RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO and he knew it |
F (Frère: "Brother" in English)
A (Armes: "Weapon", "Arms". the "d" does not count as a word so to speak, as it's an article contraction, "de" becomes "d'" when used with a noun that starts by a vowel - "of")
Q (Québec: province name. Once again the article doesn't count, in which case it's "du", meaning "of" again).
An excuse? No. Omitting articles in abbreviations is a common way to do so in French. It's when people assume too fast that people get banned for no reason.
Gaile Gray
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kusandaa
Frères d'Armes du Québec.
F (Frère: "Brother" in English) A (Armes: "Weapon", "Arms". the "d" does not count as a word so to speak, as it's an article contraction, "de" becomes "d'" when used with a noun that starts by a vowel - "of") Q (Québec: province name. Once again the article doesn't count, in which case it's "du", meaning "of" again). An excuse? No. Omitting articles in abbreviations is a common way to do so in French. It's when people assume too fast that people get banned for no reason. |
Kashrlyyk
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
...What has occured here is that the people working on the reports are setting blocks based on incomplete information. ....
|
If you want to convince people that there is no script banning people, you have to lay open the complete banning process.
undeadgun
ty Gaile for look into this issue, i have just got unbanned couple hours ago, and they told me was an error blocked my account, but thank goodness i can play now, i hope those who got wrongly banned just be patient, if you did nothing wrong, your account will be lifted soon
CHunterX
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
But yes, if you're blocked, you can change your name. In fact, you must, and the time-out is very short. And why does using something that is offensive for XX period of time make it ok?
|
I have one question about being "blocked," though: According to reports of players who have been blocked for "inappropriate" names, they are given a 72-hour block in addition to the forced character name change. Now, once they change their name, is the remaining 72-hour block removed?
I find this 72-hour block a bit as an over-punishment either way. Sure, the people who name their characters 'A Z Z' or 'Beo Tch' do sort of deserve the block, but you are going to end up catching players like 'Faq' offguard, because they honestly didn't see anything wrong with the name, and have had it for quite a long time. If you (Areanet in general) had been keeping up with these blocks from the beginning, sure, I could understand the block because we would have begun playing with more awareness to our names, but to implement a block now feels too late.
(And really, do you have to call it block instead of temp-ban? Everytime you say it, I think of )
Redfeather1975
On my world every name I see in game sounds like a curse word.
Of course my people have 1,987,298,520 curse words.
We have large thumbs and do everything with hammers.
That is all.
Of course my people have 1,987,298,520 curse words.
We have large thumbs and do everything with hammers.
That is all.
pumpkin pie
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
I could not agree with you more. It's important that you be able to go about your business on your legitimate account, with legitimate actions, without worrying about a block. That is why this sort of "burp" in the system is so frustrating to those of us who work with the game. We know it shouldn't happen, but regretably, it does happen once in a great while. The good news is, we've stopped the process that caused this, we'll amend those accounts that were affected by this, and the processes put in place in the future will be improved by this lesson. If this situation has affected you or someone you know, get in touch with Support and we'll work it out.
|
And, no, it did not happen to me of someone I know, just letting Anet knows that there are players who do transfer stuffs among themselves so that the banning system can be improved with that in mind.
NeHoMaR
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
But yes, if you're blocked, you can change your name. In fact, you must, and the time-out is very short.
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
And why does using something that is offensive for XX period of time make it ok? That's like saying you steal from the bank every day for a year, and it's therefore insulting when you get caught and punished for doing so! Doing something wrong is wrong, and if it takes a while to be stopped, that does not suddenly make it right.
|
KANE OG
Soooooo, you get rid of bots by temporarily blocking accounts? How does that work?
KANE
KANE
cosyfiep
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
...we'll amend those accounts that were affected by this, and the processes put in place in the future will be improved by this lesson.....
|
what exactly does 'amend' mean.....'I'm sorry you were banned, now run along', or what can you do to give these people back the time you incorrectly took from them????
I have not transfered stuff from my account with my hubby account just because I feared banning due to this mistake, what compensation would you have given me for that besides 'oooooops, we made a mistake!'?????
I still worry that we transfer things all the time without usually giving things back (one sided trades) that someday the powers that be will hit us and then we will both have to write, no plead, with the auto responders to get a real live person to look and see that we have the same IP --seeing as we live in the same house-- and that we are innocent of any wrong doing......its just not right. (and the comment about not having complete information gives me the willies).
I am glad that they are 'fixing' this bug, but seeing as its still people looking over the whole thing and people make mistakes I am still not comforted that it wont happen again. (and again......)
undeadgun
Quote:
Originally Posted by cosyfiep
what exactly does 'amend' mean.....'I'm sorry you were banned, now run along', or what can you do to give these people back the time you incorrectly took from them????
I have not transfered stuff from my account with my hubby account just because I feared banning due to this mistake, what compensation would you have given me for that besides 'oooooops, we made a mistake!'????? I still worry that we transfer things all the time without usually giving things back (one sided trades) that someday the powers that be will hit us and then we will both have to write, no plead, with the auto responders to get a real live person to look and see that we have the same IP --seeing as we live in the same house-- and that we are innocent of any wrong doing......its just not right. (and the comment about not having complete information gives me the willies). I am glad that they are 'fixing' this bug, but seeing as its still people looking over the whole thing and people make mistakes I am still not comforted that it wont happen again. (and again......) |
Drop of Fear
indeed the "fear" to be wrongfully banned is preventing me from doing many things in the game.
once in a while i used to buy a thousand lockpicks at the discount trader and go to kamadan selling for the same 1.2k price at random ppl. now i had to stop that fearing that ppl might hit /report for selling duped lockpicks
"how many lockpicks u have?" "as many as u want" "whaaat? u duper of lps reporting u"
i run loads of HM chests, and i sell all the elite tomes once a week when i have 60-70. again, not doing chestrun anymore under the risk to be seen as a bot/duper/whatever.
thank god i'm done with kurzick fff, but i'm hearing of many people reported for botting because they always enter in town, target the melandru flag and run out over and over. (and i believe many of these do use bots for real, but i farmed my saviour like that and i realize now i did look like a bot most of the time).
i'm not running pugs anymore as people might be high and start reporting the first time u die... i only play with ppl i know or -better- heroes/henches. (and i actualy enjoyed playing with new people)
i'm not holding any ecto EVER fearing it may be duped and may lead me in the massban when a.net finaly realize stacks and stacks of duped items escaped the previous banfest.
when i trade i use a 2nd account because u always fear someone might be upset and report u for "insert any stupid reason here" making u waste time to contact support to be unbanned...
i have no need to identify gold items as i have 11k + already, so i sell the ones i have for the usual 7vs4k NOT IN ASCALON INT1. suspicious behaviour? go tell me... i have 500 unids stored now because i fear to sell them
it's becoming ridiculous
once in a while i used to buy a thousand lockpicks at the discount trader and go to kamadan selling for the same 1.2k price at random ppl. now i had to stop that fearing that ppl might hit /report for selling duped lockpicks
"how many lockpicks u have?" "as many as u want" "whaaat? u duper of lps reporting u"
i run loads of HM chests, and i sell all the elite tomes once a week when i have 60-70. again, not doing chestrun anymore under the risk to be seen as a bot/duper/whatever.
thank god i'm done with kurzick fff, but i'm hearing of many people reported for botting because they always enter in town, target the melandru flag and run out over and over. (and i believe many of these do use bots for real, but i farmed my saviour like that and i realize now i did look like a bot most of the time).
i'm not running pugs anymore as people might be high and start reporting the first time u die... i only play with ppl i know or -better- heroes/henches. (and i actualy enjoyed playing with new people)
i'm not holding any ecto EVER fearing it may be duped and may lead me in the massban when a.net finaly realize stacks and stacks of duped items escaped the previous banfest.
when i trade i use a 2nd account because u always fear someone might be upset and report u for "insert any stupid reason here" making u waste time to contact support to be unbanned...
i have no need to identify gold items as i have 11k + already, so i sell the ones i have for the usual 7vs4k NOT IN ASCALON INT1. suspicious behaviour? go tell me... i have 500 unids stored now because i fear to sell them
it's becoming ridiculous
VitisVinifera
dont forget, we can't afk in 9 rings during boardwalk weekends.......because we are.......afk bots or something
those multiple mass bannings were fun
"We know it shouldn't happen, but regretably, it does happen once in a great while."
yeah.....so......Gaile has a very short memory when it comes to these persistent mass banning debacles
those multiple mass bannings were fun
"We know it shouldn't happen, but regretably, it does happen once in a great while."
yeah.....so......Gaile has a very short memory when it comes to these persistent mass banning debacles
Vanye Truelight
Quote:
Originally Posted by lucifer_uk
Or if you speak in a welsh accent it sounds exactly like ...
Edit: Damn you again Brianna <_< your too fast |
Sekoria
As long as Anet doesn't ask the banned players informations about the reason they should be banned, Anet's way of banning will always be a farce. I mean, it's the principle of "Guilty until proved innocent." and some people may have a hard time doing that.
Anet doesn't have to write a novel each time they want to get information : you could just whisper the guy once or something and just ask some info from him. Like, I dunno... human beings?
I never got banned or whatever, since I almost never farm and being very polite, but I don't like any kind of "agressive" banning of this kind.
Anet doesn't have to write a novel each time they want to get information : you could just whisper the guy once or something and just ask some info from him. Like, I dunno... human beings?
I never got banned or whatever, since I almost never farm and being very polite, but I don't like any kind of "agressive" banning of this kind.
henry
For what it is worth, a quick search of four different online Polish to English dictionaries showed "dupek" (as in Dupek the Mighty) to translate to English as "asshole."
Lesson? If you're going to be vulgar, at least be obscure.
Lesson? If you're going to be vulgar, at least be obscure.
Antheus
Quote:
indeed the "fear" to be wrongfully banned is preventing me from doing many things in the game. .... it's becoming ridiculous |
Also, most of these "bans" are 3-day suspensions. Not perma-bans.
But being that afraid is very unusual. In a serious way.