giving up everything you worked on for gw2?
Ghost Omel
Well fresh Start as All others Said Well Having My Character (The only 1 i Use) is fun and still fun Ill miss the poor Fellow but Who said His childrens chidlren wont be as good so me is looking forward to Gw 2 and glad My char worked for his kin
TwinRaven
So Guild Wars II means I'm supposed to give up Guild Wars? Why? I mean, I still play Morrowind even though I own Oblivion...why shouldn't I? I will play GW as long as there are things to keep me entertained. Titles I can take or leave...I play for the story, exploration and company of other players...I have explored every square inch of the three games and completed every mission and bonus...now I'm working on doing the same in GWEN. When I finish, I will putter around from time to time doing whatever I want...I may play another game if I find it tedious, but I'll be back when I'm done.
I'm seriously considering a pay-to-play game: Age of Conan, to get me by while I wait for GW2 (after all...we're talking YEARS before we see it)...I'll always be a GW fan, even if there have been changes that I might not really care for...HoM...erm...Not exactly what I hoped it would be, but then the devs didn't HAVE to even try to make a transition between games...can't think of any games with that effort put into them.
All the whiners are gonna whine anyway...I'd have skipped it and played a Gwen of Destruction sequence like at the end of beta, shut the servers off and said "Get over it, GW is dead.....come play GW2" and not given anyone the choice...(personally, I think they are being too nice) At least there is an effort being made to make it easier. Can you imagine WoW comming out with WoW2? Think they would even make an effort to improve the game and graphics if they weren't cashing in on subscriptions?
GW2 is going to provide us with more of what we want, and I'm sure, things we don't...the bottom line for the players will be more choice, more/new content, better graphics, improved game mechanics...why bitch that Ubar McScuba, your favorite Wammo, won't be able to translate into a new game with the same old stuff? Do you really want the same tired old armor and weapons in a new game with better graphics rendering? It would be laughable as one of those cartoony WoW characters trying to blend in in Lion's Arch..."Hey, look at the dude with the tiny head!"
The long and short of it comes down to this: GW is a great game. GW2 holds the promise of being better than GW. If you plan on buying/playing GW2, why do you even care about any changes to GW that relate to GW2? NOTHING (no item, no title, no armor, no character) in GW is so great that it needs to find its way to the new game...GW lore is all you need to make sense of the new game...the rest is just "stuff".
Will GW2 kill GW? No more than a child kills their parents...ask King Oedipus, he's wise enough to know the answer.
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I'm seriously considering a pay-to-play game: Age of Conan, to get me by while I wait for GW2 (after all...we're talking YEARS before we see it)...I'll always be a GW fan, even if there have been changes that I might not really care for...HoM...erm...Not exactly what I hoped it would be, but then the devs didn't HAVE to even try to make a transition between games...can't think of any games with that effort put into them.
All the whiners are gonna whine anyway...I'd have skipped it and played a Gwen of Destruction sequence like at the end of beta, shut the servers off and said "Get over it, GW is dead.....come play GW2" and not given anyone the choice...(personally, I think they are being too nice) At least there is an effort being made to make it easier. Can you imagine WoW comming out with WoW2? Think they would even make an effort to improve the game and graphics if they weren't cashing in on subscriptions?
GW2 is going to provide us with more of what we want, and I'm sure, things we don't...the bottom line for the players will be more choice, more/new content, better graphics, improved game mechanics...why bitch that Ubar McScuba, your favorite Wammo, won't be able to translate into a new game with the same old stuff? Do you really want the same tired old armor and weapons in a new game with better graphics rendering? It would be laughable as one of those cartoony WoW characters trying to blend in in Lion's Arch..."Hey, look at the dude with the tiny head!"
The long and short of it comes down to this: GW is a great game. GW2 holds the promise of being better than GW. If you plan on buying/playing GW2, why do you even care about any changes to GW that relate to GW2? NOTHING (no item, no title, no armor, no character) in GW is so great that it needs to find its way to the new game...GW lore is all you need to make sense of the new game...the rest is just "stuff".
Will GW2 kill GW? No more than a child kills their parents...ask King Oedipus, he's wise enough to know the answer.
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Rocky Raccoon
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Originally Posted by Your Lucky I Heal
so my friends were talking and it said that in gw2 you cant proceed with your character from the series (prophicies,factions,nightfall). so im just wondering for people who had there characters from the very begining give them up for gw 2?
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Omniclasm
I don't understand people....
IT IS A NEW GAME
I'm not upset that I can't use my Barret from FF7 when I play GW.
I'm not upset that I can't use my Assassin from Diablo 2 in Halo.
Why would I be upset about not being able to use my GW characters in another game?
IMO, they shouldn't have even added the HoM.
IT IS A NEW GAME
I'm not upset that I can't use my Barret from FF7 when I play GW.
I'm not upset that I can't use my Assassin from Diablo 2 in Halo.
Why would I be upset about not being able to use my GW characters in another game?
IMO, they shouldn't have even added the HoM.
Fluffiliscious
Nope, I couldn't care less. It's an opportunity to start a new adventure with a new character. I wouldn't care if they weren't linked in any way.
Mineria
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Originally Posted by Zinger314
I know one thing I can't give up: beating the dead horse!
You can't continue your GW1 characters because the servers between GW1 and GW2 would be incompatable. That's what the Hall of Monuments is for (which failed miserably). |
I think if it failed or not can't be assumed before you see how it works out in GW2.
DarkWasp
3 of my characters live for over 800 years. Atleast one will be making a comeback, maybe making a new class though.
AuraofMana
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Originally Posted by Omniclasm
I don't understand people....
IT IS A NEW GAME I'm not upset that I can't use my Barret from FF7 when I play GW. I'm not upset that I can't use my Assassin from Diablo 2 in Halo. Why would I be upset about not being able to use my GW characters in another game? IMO, they shouldn't have even added the HoM. |
Annd the games you mentioned have little or nothing to do with each other. GW2 is a GW sequel and IT IS MADE BY THE SAME COMPANY.
What they needed was not a new game, what they needed was to sit down and evaluate what the !%@$ they have been doing all these years and bring back SKill > Time and delete all the retarded titles. They needed to rethink some of the classes and stop adding them. They needed to find better ways to amuse their customers other than providing reskined armors and weapons that have the same stats. They needed to realize their newly-added grinds suck. If they wanted to add grinding, they should have made a huge level cap and made XP hard to come. Yeah, grinding for levels sound like it sucks, but guess how many players play WOW compared to GW?
Omniclasm
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Originally Posted by AuraofMana
Ever played any of the DND based RPGs? Import characters.
Annd the games you mentioned have little or nothing to do with each other. GW2 is a GW sequel and IT IS MADE BY THE SAME COMPANY. What they needed was not a new game, what they needed was to sit down and evaluate what the !%@$ they have been doing all these years and bring back SKill > Time and delete all the retarded titles. They needed to rethink some of the classes and stop adding them. They needed to find better ways to amuse their customers other than providing reskined armors and weapons that have the same stats. They needed to realize their newly-added grinds suck. If they wanted to add grinding, they should have made a huge level cap and made XP hard to come. Yeah, grinding for levels sound like it sucks, but guess how many players play WOW compared to GW? |
There is only so much you can do. If they add 5000 new monsters, what will change? They will just be the same as the previous monsters we have fought. They will still use the skills the same. They will still die the same. All the campaigns are the exact same thing.
Maybe newer players would be content with just getting the same thing over and over, but the majority of people want something interesting. And the same gameplay with a different look isn't any more interesting.
Prophecies, kept interest for almost a year
Factions, kept interest for about 3 months
Nightfall kept interest for a little over a month
GW:EN kept interest for 2 weeks.
Are you saying that if they keep up this process that they are going to stay in business?
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by Omniclasm
newer players would be content with just getting the same thing over and over, but the majority of people want something interesting. And the same gameplay with a different look isn't any more interesting.
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Heck, the fact they are raising the level cap will do wonders to increase GW2 popularity. As I said in another thread, I have no idea if I personally will enjoy Guild Wars 2, but I can't blame Anet for wanting more money, and, to be honest, it can't be worse than some of the other MMORPGS currently in the market.
Silly Warrior
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Originally Posted by Zinger314
I know one thing I can't give up: beating the dead horse!
You can't continue your GW1 characters because the servers between GW1 and GW2 would be incompatable. That's what the Hall of Monuments is for (which failed miserably). |
I login, and always become depressed by your posts.
And yet, your correct.
Tender Wolf
rofl That cookie deal was hilarious. Okay, now back on topic:
Personally I don't want to give up my Guild Wars 1 things. I've worked hard for them and still have lots of characters to get through. But Guild Wars 2 will be fun as well. Something new that doesn't get boring from doing it all the time. Then after that, Guild Wars 1 will probably be like new again. hehe So I'll probably go back and forth between the tw.
Personally I don't want to give up my Guild Wars 1 things. I've worked hard for them and still have lots of characters to get through. But Guild Wars 2 will be fun as well. Something new that doesn't get boring from doing it all the time. Then after that, Guild Wars 1 will probably be like new again. hehe So I'll probably go back and forth between the tw.
Age
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Originally Posted by jackie
I know I'd still look hawt after being mummified.
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Moral55
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Originally Posted by Lonesamurai
Guild Wars 2 is set 250 years into the future of the world... No res shrine or healing skill can keep a person youthful, let alone alive for TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY BLOODY YEARS!!!
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Lonesamurai
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Originally Posted by Moral55
I always though you could get around that by saying ascension or Weh No Su made you a near immortal would work.
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AuraofMana
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Originally Posted by Omniclasm
So that we can just keep playing the exact same game, with different reskins every 6 months? That sounds really fun.
There is only so much you can do. If they add 5000 new monsters, what will change? They will just be the same as the previous monsters we have fought. They will still use the skills the same. They will still die the same. All the campaigns are the exact same thing. Maybe newer players would be content with just getting the same thing over and over, but the majority of people want something interesting. And the same gameplay with a different look isn't any more interesting. Prophecies, kept interest for almost a year Factions, kept interest for about 3 months Nightfall kept interest for a little over a month GW:EN kept interest for 2 weeks. Are you saying that if they keep up this process that they are going to stay in business? |
Same exact reason, you don't want to feel last out after you invested so much money into GW. That is how Anet tries to keep you in. This game is no longer fun for you, it is now your JOB to play it and you don't want to let it go to waste.
If I am going to get stuff in GW2 for what I GRINDED in GW1, why don't we just import/export characters? It's the same concept anyway.
Oh wait, I get it, because GW1 is GW, and GW2 is WoW. Character import/export would change too much things. Hmm...
Omniclasm
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Originally Posted by AuraofMana
If it is indeed like that for you, why are you still here?
Same exact reason, you don't want to feel last out after you invested so much money into GW. That is how Anet tries to keep you in. This game is no longer fun for you, it is now your JOB to play it and you don't want to let it go to waste. If I am going to get stuff in GW2 for what I GRINDED in GW1, why don't we just import/export characters? It's the same concept anyway. Oh wait, I get it, because GW1 is GW, and GW2 is WoW. Character import/export would change too much things. Hmm... |
Shakti
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Originally Posted by Zinger314
I know one thing I can't give up: beating the dead horse!
You can't continue your GW1 characters because the servers between GW1 and GW2 would be incompatable. That's what the Hall of Monuments is for (which failed miserably). |
I think I need to go lie down.
AuraofMana
It is boring to play because there is nothing left for long-time players like us other than grind titles, which is worse than grinding levels. This is why we need new contents. Not a whole new chapter, we don't need more crappy, overused storyline with boring implements like complicated (relatively speaking) new classes with more reskined armor and weapons.
Then again, we already paid enough money to Anet so it doesn't matter whether we stay or not. Titles are just here to keep those hardcore players long enough to play GW2.
Then again, we already paid enough money to Anet so it doesn't matter whether we stay or not. Titles are just here to keep those hardcore players long enough to play GW2.
Bryant Again
Argument sounds like this: "I believe that I should be able to transfer all of my work and my characters from Final Fantasy X to Final Fantasy XII."
So not exactly, but it has the same reasoning. That aside, you'll still be having all of your stuff when GW2 comes along. It'll just all be in GW1.
So not exactly, but it has the same reasoning. That aside, you'll still be having all of your stuff when GW2 comes along. It'll just all be in GW1.
AuraofMana
GW 2 is a continuation of GW 1.
FF X is not a continuation of FF XII.
And what good will that do me when I am playing GW2 (haha fat chance).
FF X is not a continuation of FF XII.
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Gregslot
There is no way to link your character to a story in 250 years later.
im going to keep my characters name and pretend they are their grand-grand-son
im going to keep my characters name and pretend they are their grand-grand-son
Friar Khan
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Koss and Mhenlo, repopulating Tyria one female at a time.
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New game, new fun.
I do find it kinda lame how only destroyer weapons can be trasferred as some of my weapons have sentimental value. But oh well no big deal, and that's definitely a dead horse anyway.
Marcson
New game, new possibilities.
I started playing GW the month after it came out on the market. Loved it then, still love it now. Must admit that I didn't play all the way through though. Had some time of here and there because I got a little bored at the time. That didn't came because of the game, but I just played the game too much and found myself a little stuck on what to do. Thats why I made the step to another MMORPG, Final Fantasy XI. But in the end that didn't deliver to my expectations. It just was too much of a timesink really. To be honest, FFXI was the biggest timesink I've ever seen in any game! A lot of gamemechanics were very well done, but in the end the total package failed to stick on me. No offence towards the game, it just was a little too hardcore for me in the end as I didn't had enough time to play.
For my personal playstyle GW is just perfect. I don't like to play 3 to 4 hours a day to make progress in a game. GW is perfect as long as you don't play it too much. That's also why all the hardcore players are so complaining about GW I think. For them there is never enough content in the game.
Every game will bore you if you play it too much! Because there is absolutely no game that will enjoy you till eternity.
I also don't understand why people keep playing the game if they hate it so much. Complaining on forums isn't the key. I think it's rather sad. Just stop playing what you don't like and move on. But for most people who are addicted to something that's just a little too much asked. Oh yeah, they want to stop badly, but they just can't...
Personally I think GW is a great game. Among the best I've ever played. And I will definetely buy GW2. Even if that will cost me all my current characters. I find it not more then normal that there will be a fresh start with the new game. That's just the way it goes. It's just a nice way to start over again with new characters and empty bank accounts.
Imagine that all money could be transferred over to GW... No thanks. GW2 doesn't need the greedy rich people with rediculous prices on everything! It's already sad enough that some very wanted items can be transferred over to the new game (as someone mentioned earlier in this topic).
Untill the day GW2 will come out, I will be playing GW1.
I started playing GW the month after it came out on the market. Loved it then, still love it now. Must admit that I didn't play all the way through though. Had some time of here and there because I got a little bored at the time. That didn't came because of the game, but I just played the game too much and found myself a little stuck on what to do. Thats why I made the step to another MMORPG, Final Fantasy XI. But in the end that didn't deliver to my expectations. It just was too much of a timesink really. To be honest, FFXI was the biggest timesink I've ever seen in any game! A lot of gamemechanics were very well done, but in the end the total package failed to stick on me. No offence towards the game, it just was a little too hardcore for me in the end as I didn't had enough time to play.
For my personal playstyle GW is just perfect. I don't like to play 3 to 4 hours a day to make progress in a game. GW is perfect as long as you don't play it too much. That's also why all the hardcore players are so complaining about GW I think. For them there is never enough content in the game.
Every game will bore you if you play it too much! Because there is absolutely no game that will enjoy you till eternity.
I also don't understand why people keep playing the game if they hate it so much. Complaining on forums isn't the key. I think it's rather sad. Just stop playing what you don't like and move on. But for most people who are addicted to something that's just a little too much asked. Oh yeah, they want to stop badly, but they just can't...
Personally I think GW is a great game. Among the best I've ever played. And I will definetely buy GW2. Even if that will cost me all my current characters. I find it not more then normal that there will be a fresh start with the new game. That's just the way it goes. It's just a nice way to start over again with new characters and empty bank accounts.
Imagine that all money could be transferred over to GW... No thanks. GW2 doesn't need the greedy rich people with rediculous prices on everything! It's already sad enough that some very wanted items can be transferred over to the new game (as someone mentioned earlier in this topic).
Untill the day GW2 will come out, I will be playing GW1.
Lord Sojar
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Originally Posted by Lonesamurai
Guild Wars 2 is set 250 years into the future of the world... No res shrine or healing skill can keep a person youthful, let alone alive for TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY BLOODY YEARS!!!
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Conn
Why are people using realistic arguments for a fantasy game?
You killed a bloody god in nightfall and freezing someone for 250 years would be a problem? Or maybe using magic to send someone to the future, or the other way around, using magic to pull someone out of the past, if you started in gw2 time.
I don't really care if you can or can not use your gw1 char in gw2, but there is no reason why it shouldn't be possible from a storyline perspective.
You killed a bloody god in nightfall and freezing someone for 250 years would be a problem? Or maybe using magic to send someone to the future, or the other way around, using magic to pull someone out of the past, if you started in gw2 time.
I don't really care if you can or can not use your gw1 char in gw2, but there is no reason why it shouldn't be possible from a storyline perspective.
wilson
I really don't care. Same reason my HoM is pretty much empty, except Gwen, the pool and Vekk. It's not like I'm losing a loved one here..
New game, new character.
New game, new character.
Coifmeister
Yup same here. new game new start and boy i think ill need it by then. Plus you can transfer the most valueble things in GW1 to GW2...
Your char name (the ONLY thing you can guarentee is unique to you)
Your guild.
If GW2 is worht the wait, people will forget their GW1 chars very quickly.
Your char name (the ONLY thing you can guarentee is unique to you)
Your guild.
If GW2 is worht the wait, people will forget their GW1 chars very quickly.
Washi
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Originally Posted by Your Lucky I Heal
so my friends were talking and it said that in gw2 you cant proceed with your character from the series (prophicies,factions,nightfall). so im just wondering for people who had there characters from the very begining give them up for gw 2?
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Leijah
Nothing lasts forever. Not GW1, not GW2, not a lifetime.
Two years ago I was actually thinking how long Guild Wars would be around and how long I would be able to play it. My highest hope was around 5-7 years. Of course I'm sad that the game I love seems to end up having a lot shorter lifespan than I had hoped, but I also know that the game industry developes with a very high speed, and that's why I'm not really surpriced that ANet wants to create a whole new game so they'll be able to do all the changes they want. Of course there is still very old games around and expansions are still being made for them, but it's every company's own decision what they want to do with their game.
Guild Wars might not have been around for many more years even if ANet had never come up with GW2. Anything could have happened and we might have been left with nothing. Now we are at least getting a new game which I personally consider to be some sort of an "expansion" even though it's a new game. We'll be able to get some little things with us into GW2 through HoM and the game community will most likely include a lot of the same people as in Guild Wars today. Of course it's a bit sad that we have to say goodbye to our beloved characters, but that's just the way it goes. Nothing lasts forever.
So is it worth while to spend thousands of hours playing a game if everything is just going to be wiped away sooner or later? What is the point of playing at all if we won't be given anything in the end?
Games aren't work, they are fun. The fun itself is the reward we get from playing, and the happy memories are what we will always have even though the game would be long gone.
If this isn't a good enough reward for someone, I don't think that person should even start playing GW 2 because ANet might just want to develop GW3 after a few years from the GW2 release.
Things change and when they do we just need to adapt so we can continue having fun and be happy.
Two years ago I was actually thinking how long Guild Wars would be around and how long I would be able to play it. My highest hope was around 5-7 years. Of course I'm sad that the game I love seems to end up having a lot shorter lifespan than I had hoped, but I also know that the game industry developes with a very high speed, and that's why I'm not really surpriced that ANet wants to create a whole new game so they'll be able to do all the changes they want. Of course there is still very old games around and expansions are still being made for them, but it's every company's own decision what they want to do with their game.
Guild Wars might not have been around for many more years even if ANet had never come up with GW2. Anything could have happened and we might have been left with nothing. Now we are at least getting a new game which I personally consider to be some sort of an "expansion" even though it's a new game. We'll be able to get some little things with us into GW2 through HoM and the game community will most likely include a lot of the same people as in Guild Wars today. Of course it's a bit sad that we have to say goodbye to our beloved characters, but that's just the way it goes. Nothing lasts forever.
So is it worth while to spend thousands of hours playing a game if everything is just going to be wiped away sooner or later? What is the point of playing at all if we won't be given anything in the end?
Games aren't work, they are fun. The fun itself is the reward we get from playing, and the happy memories are what we will always have even though the game would be long gone.
If this isn't a good enough reward for someone, I don't think that person should even start playing GW 2 because ANet might just want to develop GW3 after a few years from the GW2 release.
Things change and when they do we just need to adapt so we can continue having fun and be happy.
Fluffiliscious
Wow, I couldn't imagine playing the same game for 5-7 years. There would have to be some crazy content (or grind) involved. But hey, it'd be a pretty good deal to pay $30 and get 5-7 years of use out of it....