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Skill update November 29
Tyla
ensoriki
lulz if you want your mesmer in pve take the echo's
Or Signet of illusion.
AoD shock bars are less efficient with Horns Nerf.
With Horns shock is able to be used as utility, now without it, if you were perhaps using Falling Spider, Shock is the only way to get it off.
With the assassin being Energy required, having to use a skill that exhausts you on a 25 energy class sucks.
Or Signet of illusion.
AoD shock bars are less efficient with Horns Nerf.
With Horns shock is able to be used as utility, now without it, if you were perhaps using Falling Spider, Shock is the only way to get it off.
With the assassin being Energy required, having to use a skill that exhausts you on a 25 energy class sucks.
Tyla
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Originally Posted by ensoriki
having to use a skill that exhausts you on a 25 energy class sucks.
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Nittle Grasper
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i thought kd was to suspend targets and create additional pressure,WoH may be powerful but it isnt ultimate.
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Say that to the Shock Axe build.
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Moloch Vein
Now I wait for buffs to make the life sacrificing DD spells of the blood line actually do more damage than any pvp character with reasonable max HP will take by even using them.
Oh, wait, those are necromancer spells. Will never happen.
Oh, wait, those are necromancer spells. Will never happen.
chowmein69
yay cryofpain buff 
yesitsrob
I'm rather convinced that buffing Cry of Pain was absolutely stupid. Not so much surprising though.
Sab
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Originally Posted by yesitsrob
I'm rather convinced that buffing Cry of Pain was absolutely stupid. Not so much surprising though.
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arcanemacabre
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Originally Posted by Sab
Mesmas are now good in PvE.
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LoLMesmas - the new GURU meme
Made In Ascalon
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Say that to the Shock Axe build.
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Assassins use energy for their attacks.
Avarre
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Originally Posted by Sab
Mesmas are now good in PvE.
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Red Sonya
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Everyone knows the most fun character to play is a necro. Minions, curses disenchants galore (the best in fact) the mesmer doesn't even come close to all the things a Necro can do in this game.
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arcanemacabre
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Lawling that's the funniest thing I've read in a long while. Hahahaha Mesmers are right at the bottom of the played list when it comes to favored character class to play. Sunspear would be the only one that would be right next door to them.
Everyone knows the most fun character to play is a necro. Minions, curses disenchants galore (the best in fact) the mesmer doesn't even come close to all the things a Necro can do in this game. |
Moloch Vein
One of A-net's most fundamental mistakes were making two different hexer professions.
As the balance is now, if you want to call that balance, a PvE necromancer is a more effective character than a PvE mesmer in 99% of all cases. The reverse is true for PvP.
As the balance is now, if you want to call that balance, a PvE necromancer is a more effective character than a PvE mesmer in 99% of all cases. The reverse is true for PvP.
Bankai
The level of idiocy in this thread makes me wheep.
1) First of all, the sin isn't used for 8v8. It's used for ganking. A sin should not face a woh monk. It should face flaggers and other characters. Not a monk.
Though there are some exceptions.
2) Mesmer is a lot of fun to play in PvP.
3) Shock/AoD sins have failed for a long time. They don't deal enough damage to deal with monk runners, which makes them bad.
1) First of all, the sin isn't used for 8v8. It's used for ganking. A sin should not face a woh monk. It should face flaggers and other characters. Not a monk.
Though there are some exceptions.
2) Mesmer is a lot of fun to play in PvP.
3) Shock/AoD sins have failed for a long time. They don't deal enough damage to deal with monk runners, which makes them bad.
upier
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Lawling that's the funniest thing I've read in a long while. Hahahaha Mesmers are right at the bottom of the played list when it comes to favored character class to play. Paragons would be the only one that would be right next door to them.
Everyone knows the most fun character to play is a necro. Minions, curses disenchants galore (the best in fact) the mesmer doesn't even come close to all the things a Necro can do in this game. |
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/p...lts&pollid=194
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ight=favourite
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ight=favourite
Sakura Az
the buff to overload makes it downright painful to cap the mesmer shrine as a caster in AB. i got overload spiked to death there as i casted 2 spells.
Lord Sojar
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the buff to overload makes it downright painful to cap the mesmer shrine as a caster in AB. i got overload spiked to death there as i casted 2 spells.
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Nittle Grasper
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The level of idiocy in this thread makes me wheep.
1) First of all, the sin isn't used for 8v8. It's used for ganking. A sin should not face a woh monk. It should face flaggers and other characters. Not a monk. Though there are some exceptions. 2) Mesmer is a lot of fun to play in PvP. 3) Shock/AoD sins have failed for a long time. They don't deal enough damage to deal with monk runners, which makes them bad. |
2) damn straight
3)Kiting ftl
4) My ele is very afraid of mesmer shrine now... However my hammer is not
Red Sonya
Haha the sins got toasted again, but, the Mesmers got shizocked buffed. But, I do love a good sin nerfing every chance I get to see one. sins and rangers nerf nerf nerf so fun to see an enjoy.
Red Sonya
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Also look how OLD those polls are lol hardly accurate by TODAYS standards.
Also that's hardly a worldwide poll of choices therefore invalid. The proof is in the grouping, who will you group with. I never take a mesmer, ranger or assassin and we do just fine and slaughter everything without them easily.
bhavv
The last time i took a human mesmer in a H/H group (Since he had no heroes lool), he missed with every interupt. Not very usefull since I needed him to powerblock a 1s cast spell on a elly boss in NM. I advised him to take Frustration or arcane conundrum, but he didnt want to cause he told me he could interupt fine.
Like I say thats the last time I took a human mesmer. If I really need an interupter, I use AI ftw.
Like I say thats the last time I took a human mesmer. If I really need an interupter, I use AI ftw.
Red Sonya
Yeah AI mesmer now isn't bad. I take Gwen out occassionally because she is good at interupting when I need it. But, human mesmers, rangers and sins mostly a wasted and lust a leeching space. I'd rather have another Ele than a mesmer ranger or sin. I play a curses necro with hero minon master with Discord and together we just stomp everything with ele fire starter and of course WoH monk. Thas all I ever use and I play hard mode with this group, occassionally I'll take another henchie monk in the real tough areas, but, for the most part this setup I have is just marvelous so don't need any mesmers or rangers or sins or even warriors for that matter or dervishers or paragons. Best classes necros elementalists and monks
DreamMystic
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One of A-net's most fundamental mistakes were making two different hexer professions.
As the balance is now, if you want to call that balance, a PvE necromancer is a more effective character than a PvE mesmer in 99% of all cases. The reverse is true for PvP. |
Its sort of the same reason why MM Necros aren't good in RA and TA, since you need something to react to. If there are no corpses then the build is near useless.
sagilltwins
Yea good job anet! Keep nerfing sins to the grave!
Red Sonya
I agree keep nerfing sins to the grave..../signed
Nevin
I think sins need better elite dagger mastery skills to compensate, theres a reason no one ever uses 'em. They suck.
{Elite}Burning Daggers 15 - Energy, 10 - Second Recharge
Dual Attack. Must follow an offhand attack, you strike target foe for 12...43{50} fire damage, if target foe is hexed target foe begins burning for 2...5{7} seconds.
Why didn't we ever get something like that? Instead we have... Flashing Blades.
{Elite}Disarming Strike 5 - Energy, 8 - recharge
Off Hand Attack. Interrupt target foe's action, if target foe was using a skill that skill is disabled for 5...10{13} seconds. Target foe's attack skills are all disabled for 3..8{10} seconds.
{Elite}Burning Daggers 15 - Energy, 10 - Second Recharge
Dual Attack. Must follow an offhand attack, you strike target foe for 12...43{50} fire damage, if target foe is hexed target foe begins burning for 2...5{7} seconds.
Why didn't we ever get something like that? Instead we have... Flashing Blades.
{Elite}Disarming Strike 5 - Energy, 8 - recharge
Off Hand Attack. Interrupt target foe's action, if target foe was using a skill that skill is disabled for 5...10{13} seconds. Target foe's attack skills are all disabled for 3..8{10} seconds.
Nittle Grasper
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I think sins need better elite dagger mastery skills to compensate, theres a reason no one ever uses 'em. They suck.
{Elite}Burning Daggers 15 - Energy, 10 - Second Recharge Dual Attack. Must follow an offhand attack, you strike target foe for 12...43{50} fire damage, if target foe is hexed target foe begins burning for 2...5{7} seconds. Why didn't we ever get something like that? Instead we have... Flashing Blades. {Elite}Disarming Strike 5 - Energy, 8 - recharge Off Hand Attack. Interrupt target foe's action, if target foe was using a skill that skill is disabled for 5...10{13} seconds. Target foe's attack skills are all disabled for 3..8{10} seconds. |
2) Exhausting Assault
Ulterion
Face it, people! Whiners won't stop until assassin's daggers do 1-2 dmg, dagger skill dmg is -50 and all their hex spells cause exhaustion and disable their entire bars. =P
Anti-Sin Whiners (that get their way always... GG Anet) FTL/FAILURE
Anti-Sin Whiners (that get their way always... GG Anet) FTL/FAILURE
Chicken Ftw
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Originally Posted by Ulterion
Face it, people! Whiners won't stop until assassin's daggers do 1-2 dmg, dagger skill dmg is -50 and all their hex spells cause exhaustion and disable their entire bars. =P
Anti-Sin Whiners (that get their way always... GG Anet) FTL/FAILURE |
let's all be ignorant, whee
Ulterion
OMG ONOZ Is that a picture of YOU?! *You're Fugly!* Not to mention a waste of forum-space.
Nevin
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So what if twisted fang would deal likewise damage? Is it a bad thing to have two powerful dual attacks? Oh and I wasn't aware Exhausting Assault was an off hand, or could disable attack skills! Boy you really educated me.
placebo overdose
ok wow this is just a flame war
but the reason that mesmers and assassins are such hard classes to try and balance is they take the control out of the player and that is very percise because too much power and they own the game too little and they are hard to use and clunky so it is not easy finding a good place for professions like this
look at the hammer warrior really when was the last time there was a hammer buff it is because it is at a good place
but the reason that mesmers and assassins are such hard classes to try and balance is they take the control out of the player and that is very percise because too much power and they own the game too little and they are hard to use and clunky so it is not easy finding a good place for professions like this
look at the hammer warrior really when was the last time there was a hammer buff it is because it is at a good place
ensoriki
You take an assassin or Mesmer in PVE, you have to be playing smart.
Only ease for an assassin is the Moebius combo's otherwise playing stupid has you dead.
Same with the mesmer, playing stupid makes you useless.
Also to the guy who said
Twisting fangs and
Exhausting Assault
...no, what that guy was requesting and what you think hes saying are different.
Only ease for an assassin is the Moebius combo's otherwise playing stupid has you dead.
Same with the mesmer, playing stupid makes you useless.
Also to the guy who said
Twisting fangs and
Exhausting Assault
...no, what that guy was requesting and what you think hes saying are different.
Avarre
We're done here. Profession discussion goes in the respective areas of the campfire.