Sundering Weapon + Body Blow <=> Eviscerate

[wiki]Sundering Weapon[/wiki] [wiki]Body Blow[/wiki] does pretty much the same damage as [skill]Eviscerate[/skill], saves your elite skill, but takes up one more slot. Is viable alternative?

For example something like
[skill]Frenzy[/skill][wiki]Body Blow[/wiki][skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill][skill]Cleave[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][wiki]Sundering Weapon[/wiki]
uses Cleave for more pressure

or maybe
[skill]Frenzy[/skill][wiki]Body Blow[/wiki][skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill][skill]Charging Strike[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill][wiki]Sundering Weapon[/wiki]
Charging Strike for better anti-kiting abilities and more damage

or
[skill]Frenzy[/skill][wiki]Body Blow[/wiki][skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill][skill]Disrupting Chop[/skill][skill]Bull's Charge[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill][wiki]Sundering Weapon[/wiki]
Bull's Charge on an Axe?

Of course the two skills take up one extra slot and restrain your secondary so you can't use Shock or Rending Touch or something like that anymore, and could give away your spike when you cast weapon spells on yourself, but also frees up your elite. Is it worth it?

Personally I find that using a shock war and adding Shell Shock + Body Blow is a better combo, but they all work about the same.

Cleave really isnt a good choice of an elite for an axe war, the damage is jus to low for an elite spike.

I personaly love Charging Strike, its the perfect counter stance for Frenzy.

Never used Bulls charge so I cant say much, except the long recharge might leave you stuck in frenzy at a bad time.

How about YAA! or Coward! to Catch kiters?
Or maybe Rage of the Ntouka, you charge adrenaline normally, spike then hit rage and spike again?
I do do much high end PvP so I'm not sure if this advice is any good.
Tbh Eviscerate is probably your best choice for elite anyway.

~A Leprechaun~

Not so great IMO.

One, your spec into communing will be minimal.
Two, your 1s cast time takes valuable time away from attacking.
Three, it costs energy.

If you really want to play fith body blow, shell shock is better, and it's in a better attribute line also.
I'm not sure body blow's DW will trigger if used as the sundering weapon attack.

i still prefere evis

Takes 2 slots, makes you spec higher strength and communing...no thank you.

THe extra slot is very valuable and Sundering Weapon also has the unfortuanate effect of revealing your spike just before it happens. I think Body Blow could work but only if you have a Rit or Ele (Shell Shock) carrying the cracked armor for you.

Assuming Sundering Weapon + Body Blow actually causes the deep wound in a single hit, its still a downgrade from Eviscerate. Why split Eviscerate into two separate, and more conditional, skills?

It takes you two skills when you can use one instead. Additionally, if Cracked armor is removed, then your Body Block is useless. You also have to put attribute points in Communing. Eviscerate still wins.

Sundering Weapon triggers before Body Blow, so you'll always get the DW, but having to cast a weapon spell first blows.

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