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terminator

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

W/Mo

02 Dec 2007 at 12:04 - 1

Hey everyone, i have been playing guild wars for 30 months now, on and off. my computer is not very good so GW lags loads!

I want to get a laptop, as i will be going to college next year. I will wont the laptop to smoothly run GW, and i was hoping someone could say if this laptop could run it.

BASE--Intel® Pentium® Dual Core Processor T2330 (1.60GHz,533MHz )
OPERATING SYSTEM--Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium - English
HARDWARE SUPPORT--1 Year Base Warranty - Collect & Return
COLOUR CHOICE--Jet Black Colour with Matte Finish & 2.0mp camera
LCD--15.4" Wide Screen WXGA (1280 x 800) Display
MEMORY--2048MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024]
HARD DRIVE--160GB (5400RPM) SATA Hard Drive
GRAPHICS CARD--nVidia® GeForce™ Go 8600M GT with 256MB DDR2 dedicated graphic memory
OPTICAL DRIVE--Fixed Internal 8X DVD+/-RW Drive including Software
PRIMARY BATTERY--Primary 6-cell Lithium-Ion Battery (56 WHr)

Laptop = £539

Or should i upgrade the Intel pentium dual core for an Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T5250 (1.5GHz,667MHz,2MB L2 cache) for an extra £20

If this laptop wouldnt run GW smoothly could you plz reccommend another laptop, in the price range of £500.

Thank you.

my2cent

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

02 Dec 2007 at 12:09 - 2

yes it will run, i run on bit lower spec and everything is on max.

cebalrai

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2007

Mature Gaming Association

Me/E

02 Dec 2007 at 13:29 - 3

That laptop is way more than enough.

Dreamwar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Netherlands

W/

02 Dec 2007 at 13:30 - 4

It will run smoothly, i have this:

Manufacturer: FOXCONN
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Memory: 1920MB RAM
Hard Drive: 361 GB Total
Video Card: RADEON 9800 XT
Monitor: Plug en Play-monitor
Sound Card: Realtek HD Audio output
Speakers/Headphones: Trust hs-2400
Keyboard: USB-hoofdhub
Mouse: Trust Predator (800 or 1600 dpI)
Mouse Surface: http://www.madmouse.nl/images/prod_gamer.jpg
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)
And i run it smoothly on highest, about 30 ping.

Upgrade to the second processor.

tijo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Montreal

[CDDR]

R/

02 Dec 2007 at 15:08 - 5

Yup, it will run everythin smoothly at max settings.

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

02 Dec 2007 at 17:58 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by terminator

......Or should i upgrade the Intel pentium dual core for an Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T5250 (1.5GHz,667MHz,2MB L2 cache) for an extra £20

My guess would be that the Core 2 would be worth the extra.

tijo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Montreal

[CDDR]

R/

02 Dec 2007 at 19:10 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quaker

My guess would be that the Core 2 would be worth the extra.

Yeah it will especially if you are using other programs like itunes when playing.

terminator

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

W/Mo

02 Dec 2007 at 19:28 - 8

Thank you everyone for your help, i have thought about getting this laptop for a while. Sometime during next week i am hopefully going to be ordering it

so thanks again for your help.

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

02 Dec 2007 at 22:07 - 9

Upgrade to the Core 2!!! Oh for the love of god. @_@ Please don't ever use a Pentium....evil Netburst failed architecture that must be burned from society...

Draginvry

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

The Underground PvP Society (PVPS)

N/Mo

03 Dec 2007 at 03:28 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by tijo

Yeah it will especially if you are using other programs like itunes when playing.

iTunes is sort of a memory hog to begin with.

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

03 Dec 2007 at 03:44 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

Upgrade to the Core 2!!! Oh for the love of god. @_@ Please don't ever use a Pentium....evil Netburst failed architecture that must be burned from society...

Never thought I'd see the day where we agreed.

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

03 Dec 2007 at 05:13 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by You can't see me

Never thought I'd see the day where we agreed.

I am sure we agree on many things, we just have to find them.

Want to light the torch and I will throw it on Netburst, or vice versa?

Josh

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

England, UK

D/Mo

03 Dec 2007 at 17:38 - 13

For £20 and an upgrade to Core 2 Duo? Of course!

Should run Guild Wars fine at all max settings, possibly even with 2/4x AA!

Guild Wars is a beautiful game, yet because of it's MMORPG'ness like style, it doesn't really require a 30+ constant frames per second rate for it to 'appear' smooth to you.. Hell, when I had my old ATI Radeon 9250, I played all max (no AA, wasn't supported, haha!) and got a constant 20ish FPS with a bit of a dip of 10FPS in large firefights, even then I only noticed it a little bit. The eye can only see tell a difference on most games from about 20-30FPS (25-30fps maybe).. First person shooter games such as CS:S, BF2, BF2142, Crysis, etc - is where you need all those frames per second - usually wanting a constant 60+ FPS rate.

Now I play on my new Intel C2D rig with an ATI X1950 Pro 512MB at 80+ constant FPS with all settings cranked up to the max with 4x AA, even then in firefights only dipping to 40-50fps!

Love it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamwar

It will run smoothly, i have this:

Manufacturer: FOXCONN
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Memory: 1920MB RAM
Hard Drive: 361 GB Total
Video Card: RADEON 9800 XT
Monitor: Plug en Play-monitor
Sound Card: Realtek HD Audio output
Speakers/Headphones: Trust hs-2400
Keyboard: USB-hoofdhub
Mouse: Trust Predator (800 or 1600 dpI)
Mouse Surface: http://www.madmouse.nl/images/prod_gamer.jpg
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)
And i run it smoothly on highest, about 30 ping.

Upgrade to the second processor.

What's your ping got to do with anything?

Alperuzi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

An/TR

Need One! :(

W/Mo

04 Dec 2007 at 12:26 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

Upgrade to the Core 2!!! Oh for the love of god. @_@ Please don't ever use a Pentium....evil Netburst failed architecture that must be burned from society...

That Pentium Dual Core is not Netburst, its also Core microarchitecture, just with a different name

In this case, both CPU's are virtually identical with cache and FSB being the only differences.

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

04 Dec 2007 at 13:00 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alperuzi

That Pentium Dual Core is not Netburst, its also Core microarchitecture, just with a different name

In this case, both CPU's are virtually identical with cache and FSB being the only differences.

EDIT: I just realized, you are correct. I was thinking of the 2130 Dual Core, which is P6 based Yonah. This is a Mermon core, I believe revision 2/M? @_@ Check me if I am wrong. Still, its not true Core architecture, merely a hybrid. True Core archetype is found in the actual Core and Core 2 processors. But good catch anyways, made me think twice.

Alperuzi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

An/TR

Need One! :(

W/Mo

04 Dec 2007 at 13:15 - 16

Take a look at this list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...icroprocessors

The T2330 is a Core microarchitecture, its Merom, not Yonah. The Previous Pentium-M's aren't Netburst as well, they are P6. You are thinking desktop CPUs, which were not the same as laptop CPUs until recently.

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

04 Dec 2007 at 13:19 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alperuzi

Take a look at this list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...icroprocessors

The T2330 is a Core microarchitecture. Actually it even has 64 bit extensions which the Core brand CPUs do not have. The Previous Pentium-M's aren't Netburst as well, they are P6.

See my edit above.

Mermom rev 1 is true Core for mobile, it really was the pivotal point at which Intel unified desktop and mobile lineups. But alas, if the 2330 is Mermon rev 2/M, then it is Core. Still, Mermon is an odd core in and of itself. It doesn't quite lineup with the true Core architechture, because it borrows parts of the P6.

Alperuzi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

An/TR

Need One! :(

W/Mo

04 Dec 2007 at 13:32 - 18

Both CPU's are exactly the same, hence being upgradeable.

The upgrade will give terminator 100Mhz less speed, 1MB more cache and 133MHz more FSB.

I'd get it though, since doubling the cache would probably mean much more performance in a bunch of areas.

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

04 Dec 2007 at 18:59 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alperuzi

Both CPU's are exactly the same, hence being upgradeable.

The upgrade will give terminator 100Mhz less speed, 1MB more cache and 133MHz more FSB.

I'd get it though, since doubling the cache would probably mean much more performance in a bunch of areas.

Just because they are upgradeable doesn't mean they are the same. One is a Mermon core, the other is Mermon 2/M. @_@ The upgrade is worth the money, certainly. I despise the 2/M core, simply because it is so Laptoppy....is that a word...? w/e

The core structure is, ironically, more "advanced" in the lower end CPU, but in reality, that isn't always better.

The Way Out

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

In my peanut brain

Zomg Zombies [OMG]

Mo/E

04 Dec 2007 at 19:27 - 20

That system is overkill for gw as it is now... are you prepping for gw2? Also, yes that system will run gw in x4AA... easily... the only issue is whether or not the system is going to remain with Vista (memory hog)... and is the video card dedicated system or otherwise... (big difference). You can run GW on a overclocked Pentium III...

GW isn't a really hardware taxing game... but that is a decent laptop to run it on. Gratz!

Woop Shotty

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ruthless Mafia [RM]

Mo/

04 Dec 2007 at 19:32 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Way Out

GW isn't a really hardware taxing game... but that is a decent laptop to run it on. Gratz!

GW can be though.

The Way Out

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

In my peanut brain

Zomg Zombies [OMG]

Mo/E

04 Dec 2007 at 19:56 - 22

I own all three campaigns and the expansion. I work in tech support and build custom rigs. I also come from a first person shooter background and know more than I want to know about systems and how the run. Again... guild wars is not a taxing game. My cpu has never been throttled playing guildwars. My memory doesn't get taxed. The three areas I get hit on are Video, Hard Drive, and Network (because I have everything turned up and cranking). That is it. If you have vent or teamspeak... your memory comes into play then. I also run two instances of guildwars at the same time... one my system, and one on my wife's. My system is a gaming rig, very similar to the system posted below (AMD, though)... which is overkill for gw... My wife's system is basic, with an Intel chipset... and 8mb of onboard video memory (under the minimum requirements for gw I may add). Her system handles gw fine...

GW again, is not an intensive system hog

Alperuzi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

An/TR

Need One! :(

W/Mo

05 Dec 2007 at 11:50 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

Just because they are upgradeable doesn't mean they are the same. One is a Mermon core, the other is Mermon 2/M.

Both are 2M, I didn't see the pound sign, so that'd be what? about 70 bucks? Which is a little too much for 100 less MHz I'd say