New BMP Title, "Historian"

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Scarlett Romanov
Scarlett Romanov
Guest
#21
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Originally Posted by Count to Potato
/notsigned

Titles are suppose to show real accomplishments that are worth noting, having been able to buy stuff on NCstore and just doing some discoveries would add no value to a title like that
/notsigned. I completely agree with you. That and the fact that the content isn't obtainable anymore is also a good reason.
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AuraofMana
Wilds Pathfinder
#22
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to the OP, new titles are ftl
Oh Tyla but it would be easier to max that titles we always wanted but do fear of the VANQUISHING WAYS.

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Titles are suppose to show real accomplishments that are worth noting, having been able to buy stuff on NCstore and just doing some discoveries would add no value to a title like that
Because grinding out of your life (with Ursanway no less) or doing easy 3k quests in Factions are REALLY accomplishments.

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Yeah, I think a title would be the wrong way to go, since not everyone can get it. But I think a statue for the HoM would be nice. Or allow us to place the weapons in the HoM. That would make the extra books worth it.
Not everyone has every campaign, let's take those out too so we have like.... 4 titles left.

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/notsigned, if you thought the "OMG PLZ GIB ME BMP EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T BUY ANYTHING IN STORE" threads are bad now, just try tacking a pointless title onto it.
It's fun when other people suffers.

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/notsigned, this would create an uneven battlefield for you credit card ninjas.
Being a ninja already makes us superior.

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/notsigned. Hey! Why not just add a max title for completing SF, one for DoA, one for Urgoz, one for Deep, etc. etc. That way we can get the KoaBD title inflation!
Because that is happening anyway.

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This is incredibly unfair to the population of Guild wars that could not purchase the BMP because of lack of credit cards or simple lack of cash to throw at a game for minimal content.
Man I love it when people say that. It makes me warm and fuzzy inside.

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First, you're correct in saying it's not fair. However, considering that the GW:EN titles are "buyable" titles practically, that's not much of a point.
Exactly, so this isn't much a point either. Exactly the reason why it should be implemented. I am sorry, last time I checked, being a drunkard doesn't make any point either.

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I think if a title were to be added, it would need a harder task than just the discoveries.
Look at Survivors.

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That and the fact that the content isn't obtainable anymore is also a good reason.
Neither are survivors for characters made before the title. There is a whole thread on that one that I still need to go see the updates and flame some more.
the Puppeteer
the Puppeteer
Jungle Guide
#23
lol just lol
Longasc
Longasc
Forge Runner
#24
No.

The BMP was a time-limited offer. I see no point in giving the buyers a free extra title nobody else can achieve even if they would like to try.

And yes, I could use it as an easy title for God Among Mere Mortals, too.


But this silly titles for every silly ingame-activity trend has to stop!!! It brought no good to the game, aka title driven gameplay.
Likelytodie
Likelytodie
Academy Page
#25
Yes to statue, no to title.
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AuraofMana
Wilds Pathfinder
#26
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Originally Posted by Longasc
No.

The BMP was a time-limited offer. I see no point in giving the buyers a free extra title nobody else can achieve even if they would like to try.

And yes, I could use it as an easy title for God Among Mere Mortals, too.


But this silly titles for every silly ingame-activity trend has to stop!!! It brought no good to the game, aka title driven gameplay.
Then call a stop to title grinding, not the titles. In fact, as lot of people tried to argue on here that "YOU DON'T NEED TO DO IT, IT'S THERE!!!111" Let me quote one of those failing arguments and redirect your attacks toward them.
Siege more.
street peddler
street peddler
Wilds Pathfinder
#27
at least wait until the whiner threads stop before making a thread like this..
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thedeadlyassassin
Krytan Explorer
#28
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Originally Posted by Woop Shotty
HM BMP? Are you crazy guys? You can't customize your skillbars and it's a solo thing.
There's more to guild wars then just customized skillbars.


As for the OP, /signed.

So what people missed their chance, and I'm really getting sick of seeing every other thread be about "waa waa waa I didn't buy the BMP". Your fault you didn't buy it, not ours, so stop bitching.
Tender Wolf
Tender Wolf
Banned
#29
I like this idea, there should be a title, statue, or at least something for finishing the BMP in discovery mode, since in regular mode you get the weapons. However, I can see that some people wouldn't like that because they might not have the BMP, so they couldn't get the titles. But then again, people who don't have Factions can't get the alliance titles, so...yeah. /signed
creelie
creelie
Wilds Pathfinder
#30
/signed for a HoM statue.

/notsigned for a title.
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freekedoutfish
Furnace Stoker
#31
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Originally Posted by Shadowmoon
I enjoy the BMP, but what really is the point of dsicovery mode? I think it would be nice to make a title track for the Discoveries. Honestly the extra books when books are unlimited is not a reward IMO. So in addition to the new skin, that look better than the GWEN skins, I think there should be a title or a statue at least.
Of course people will say that this isn't fair to those who didn't get the bonus, well guess what, TITLES ARE NOT FAIR. Look at survivor or LDoA.
This issue with your idea isnt that its unfair (even though the way Anet sold the BMP was completely unfair on those who dont purchase online). The issue is that it would add an extremely easy title to max out.

You get a max title for just completing 4 missions! Wow!! Whats the point and what does it show?

Titles should have some challenge to them and not just be a walk in the park to max out, even though alot already are.

But to compare a BMP title to the survivor or LDOA isnt right, because both of those titles take a hell of alot more time and effort to achieve (whether it be purely death leveling or not).

We dont need more titles, especially ones which can be maxed out in about 30 minutes of play.

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Originally Posted by Tarzan Yamada
/signed.

this would be a great addition! what does a title really have to do with gameplay anyway? just like the bmp weapon skins. it would just be a fun thing to have a Historian title for completing all 12 discoveries. A monument would be outstanding as well!
Just about everything. Are you suggesting legendary guardian or the protector titles have no baring on the gameplay or dont symbolise any effort or dedication?

What about cartographer or skill hunter! Im not saying all titles show dedication and some are just killing creatures over and over, but alot do show that a player put some effort in and we DONT need more that are just meaningless.
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Kabroz the necro
Academy Page
#32
/notsigned
There's too much titles (LDoA and LS) that gives extra point to GWAMM,

Homewer if it won't count towards it,and you can buy BMP from real-life shop
/signed
Phoenix Tears
Phoenix Tears
Desert Nomad
#33
not signet, not more to say about.
Whisper Evenstar
Whisper Evenstar
Lion's Arch Merchant
#34
/notsigned

Compare GWEN to BMP - 1 title for all missions and dungeons in GWEN, 1 title for 4 missions in BMP??

I don't think so....
BlackSephir
BlackSephir
Forge Runner
#35
/signed just to see pve crowd going mad 'omg its so easier now to get KoaBD!1'
And to see more shitstorm about BMP :d
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HayesA
Krytan Explorer
#36
Not signed.

All titles are all aveilable to all players. This would create a situation where only a select few people could get a title. Thus, create a rather large void in the player base. "Hey, how come you get this, and I cannot??" "Because you suck, lawlz, and I are the rockz0rz. I can buy titles! lol!!!"

You can obtain any title you wish if you supply more time, and skill. But adding a title that, if you simply buy this when it's supplied, and complete a few easy quests, you get a title. It's not like a protector, or guardian title. Because simply if you have the campaign, you can get these titles. And each game is still sold in most gaming stores. So, everybody can potentually get said title.

If you want LBoA, you can slave for hours and hours going AFK. If you want survivor, you can make a new toon and go at it for a few days/weeks. Want Glad? get your skill set all perfected, and battle it out! My point: Every title is obtainable to everyone who has that campaign/game. But not everybody has the BMP.

You say titles are generally not fair. How so? This title would not be fair.
杀TanK杀
杀TanK杀
Frost Gate Guardian
#37
Maybe have Historian (1) but it dusn't count for koabd, it is just to show that you have made the discoveries?
Alex Morningstar
Alex Morningstar
Krytan Explorer
#38
/unsigned

Way too easy to get and would be impossible for people who do not have the BMP to get. At least with Survivor, it just involves rolling a new character, with the ascalon title, just roll a Tyrian character and stay there, death grinding for weeks.

Survivor - 1,000,000+xp
LDoA - Level 20 in Pre-Searing. Death grinding for weeks.
Legendary Spearmarshal - 50,000
Holy Lightbringer - 50,000
Protector - ALL missions in a campaign

then you have...

All discoveries (3) done for all the BMP stories (4).

You can see that compared to those two alone, doing all the discovery stuff doesn't add up to a title, let alone a title that counts towards KoaBD.
I Phoenix I
I Phoenix I
Jungle Guide
#39
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Originally Posted by 杀TanK杀
Maybe have Historian (1) but it dusn't count for koabd, it is just to show that you have made the discoveries?
That's what I was thinking too!
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MegaPsycho
Ascalonian Squire
#40
OP, Signed

I find it laughable that people are defending titles like Ldoa and Survivor because of the time it consumes.... If anything I think those titles should be revoked and the BMP should get its own title. Why do you ask?

*Equips fire-retardant shield of fortitude*

Simple. Wasnt the whole bloody concept of this game supposed to be about your level of skill, not how much ******* time you spend playing?

I mean seriously, BMP took me 3 days to beat with all hidden objectives, not time consuming at all, but damn did Saul's Story and Togo's story felt like a certain organ on my body was being stapled to a wall.

Protector took at least 5 times as long.... but was less than 1/10th the difficulty/effort. Do you see where Im going here?