W/Rit UW hard mod possible?

wsmcasey

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

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HeRo

W/Rt

03 Dec 2007 at 15:35 - 1
I can handle UW smite runs with W/Rit no problems in normal mode. But what about hard mod? Probably no issues with Graspings, but the Smites might out damage VWK. Anyone do this with much success?

Do the monsters follow the same patterns in Hard mode vs Normal mode? For example, the Aatxes have stationary and patroling groups in the chamber. I'm guessing that hard mode might spawn more Aatxes, Graspings & Smites. I'm too cheap to waste a plat to find out!

Thanks.

Shadow Own

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

Holland

Mantle Assasin (MA)

W/D

03 Dec 2007 at 15:41 - 2
you might have a chance when a human ranger comes with ya, with serpents quickness, quickening zephyr, baltha spirit and essence bond or so, then you can keep up VwK and with baltha on you you can spam vengeful weapon too, altough it'll be harder because the ranger has to run with you, and place the spirits in safe range

Adam144

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

Castleford, England

None

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03 Dec 2007 at 15:42 - 3
Aatxes follow more, all creatures hit harder, dying nightmares harder to kill, faster cast times etc.

You can try it but I don't see how well it would work.

Targuil

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Join Date: Oct 2007

Tampere, Finland

Keep Dreaming [Yawn]

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03 Dec 2007 at 16:12 - 4
You cant outrun aatxes who hit like 150 dmg when you have 150 armor. GG game over.

ReZDoGG

ReZDoGG

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Join Date: Apr 2007

Indian Township, ME

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Rt/Mo

03 Dec 2007 at 16:36 - 5
You will still get the same drop rate for ectos... and golds barely drop at all anyways in UW it seems. But yeah, I think you would beable to handle Graspings possibly, but Smites will hit alot harder... plus the Smites run and heal alot, so they take a long time to kill. My 330hp takes long to kill the Smites, I can't imagine how long W/Rt would take to kill them... tell you the truth I don't think W/Rt would even beable to kill them cause of the small damage output.

moshakirby

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

03 Dec 2007 at 17:06 - 6
Anything is possible with Armor of Salvation!!!

afya

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/Me

03 Dec 2007 at 17:30 - 7
hard to run away from aatxe

wsmcasey

wsmcasey

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Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

03 Dec 2007 at 19:50 - 8
Well, if ecto drop rate is the same, then I'll just stick with NM. I hardly ever get gold drops in NM except from chests. The extra hassle in HM isnt worth it I guess.

Targuil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Tampere, Finland

Keep Dreaming [Yawn]

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03 Dec 2007 at 21:00 - 9
Quote:
Originally Posted by moshakirby
Anything is possible with Armor of Salvation!!! /fail If you have full ele enchants, you might be able to prevent all dmg with armor of salvation. You must have mantra of earth with high ispiration, kinetic armor and geomancer armor+10vs earth shield with max armor. Then you might be able to stop all aatxe dmg .

The Far Shooter

The Far Shooter

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03 Dec 2007 at 21:28 - 10
Extremely hard as aatxes run 50% faster and basically never leave your tail. They hit like 300s on a warrior in HM

SimplyAmazing

SimplyAmazing

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Cho's Estate

Agents Of Indecision

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03 Dec 2007 at 22:43 - 11
W/Me can do HM no problem

just go 330hp rt/mo and do a smite run in 9 mins! HM

plus drop rates are increased, and i get gold drops all the time in UW HM.

wsmcasey

wsmcasey

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HeRo

W/Rt

03 Dec 2007 at 22:53 - 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by SimplyAmazing
just go 330hp rt/mo and do a smite run in 9 mins! Thats easer said than done. I dont have a Rit.

SimplyAmazing

SimplyAmazing

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Cho's Estate

Agents Of Indecision

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03 Dec 2007 at 23:04 - 13
make one!, you can create and level a character to 20 in less than 12 hours. And you can run to any Town Linking to UW in another 20 mins.

ReZDoGG

ReZDoGG

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Indian Township, ME

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Rt/Mo

04 Dec 2007 at 00:56 - 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by SimplyAmazing
W/Me can do HM no problem

just go 330hp rt/mo and do a smite run in 9 mins! HM

plus drop rates are increased, and i get gold drops all the time in UW HM. How could you do a Smite run in 9 minutes? Don't think anything can do a run that fast, even without killing Bladed...

SimplyAmazing

SimplyAmazing

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Cho's Estate

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04 Dec 2007 at 01:02 - 15
You can, and go take a look in the W/me Thread, as there is a screen shot proving this.



edit:
Thought 9 mins was unbelievable, check out this one, with a good spawn, how about 7 mins? http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gw338ou9.jpg

Targuil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Tampere, Finland

Keep Dreaming [Yawn]

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04 Dec 2007 at 05:40 - 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by SimplyAmazing
You can, and go take a look in the W/me Thread, as there is a screen shot proving this.



edit:
Thought 9 mins was unbelievable, check out this one, with a good spawn, how about 7 mins? http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gw338ou9.jpg Show hard mode icon plx.

juge24

juge24

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04 Dec 2007 at 06:15 - 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Targuil
Show hard mode icon plx. it's not in HM dumbnukle

Mickey

Mickey

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04 Dec 2007 at 06:21 - 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by juge24
it's not in HM dumbnukle That's what the whole thread is about. Doing a smite run in HM. Dumbnukle, wtf that means, idk.

moshakirby

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

04 Dec 2007 at 08:12 - 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Targuil
/fail If you have full ele enchants, you might be able to prevent all dmg with armor of salvation. You must have mantra of earth with high ispiration, kinetic armor and geomancer armor+10vs earth shield with max armor. Then you might be able to stop all aatxe dmg . Barly any builds farm the aatxe in NM so I wouldn't dream of farming them in HM, AoS is still extremley powerfull though, you can farm aatxe in NM w/ AoS.

juge24

juge24

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lutgardis conservatory

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04 Dec 2007 at 16:39 - 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mickey
That's what the whole thread is about. Doing a smite run in HM. Dumbnukle, wtf that means, idk. i think he was talking about the w\mes screen

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

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Uk,Wales

04 Dec 2007 at 16:42 - 21
that w/me build is normal mode only... i made it

SimplyAmazing

SimplyAmazing

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Cho's Estate

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04 Dec 2007 at 18:08 - 22
i was just using the w/me build as a reference at how fast smite runs can be done, with experience and a good spawn, it can be done rediculously quick, i wouldnt do it in NM it's a waste of 1k or a scroll, and i wouldnt use a warrior as it takes too long to drop mobs.

ShadowsRequiem

ShadowsRequiem

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04 Dec 2007 at 18:13 - 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by juge24
i think he was talking about the w\mes screen Yeah because you come into a thread asking about soloing uw in HARDMODE not normal

you = fail

trinwroth

trinwroth

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United Kingdom

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05 Dec 2007 at 17:38 - 24
I believe that this would be possible, although very challenging - eg breaking argo from high level aataxes with a 33% speed buff - however, even if i could be done, it is mostly pointless, unless you are just looking for a chalenge, which isnt the reason that people go the the underworld. You might aswel stick to NM.

Mr Bartel

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Villefeuj

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06 Dec 2007 at 06:33 - 25
Actually, all we can see on that screen is that he killed the grasps and the last group of smites ... maybe just runned through the other just to put red points on the map

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

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None

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06 Dec 2007 at 09:09 - 26
It is possible to outrun something in HM but that involves basically running 10 miles from the monsters original spawn point at which point they slowly move back. You could outrun the AAtxe in HM if you were using a 33% boost and move deep into Smite territory