Deadly Paradox was nerfed and I started to ponder why some builds got the stick and other doesn't?
How is the process? They pool how many people are using the skill? It was hard to counter? Many people disliked it? Or no one knows what anet does??
Oh, and I think Deadly Paradox was a little evil skill too and I will miss the spam. I am not arguing if the nerf was deserved or not but what is the process behind it.
What is Anet politic about nerfs?
Lorde
Bryant Again
Generally they nerf the metagame, if I remember correctly.
And gosh damn that sure is one popular (still cool) avatar.
And gosh damn that sure is one popular (still cool) avatar.
Lorde
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Generally they nerf the metagame, if I remember correctly.
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Metagame? What is the metagame??? I hear this word all the time but I am not sure what this means.
Sin Gwen is cute and is sad Lame Paradox was nerfed.
sagilltwins
I believe the metagame is like what most people like to run on a particular profession. Such as like how all Infusers used to use LoD... then they nerfed it to the grave. So people switched to WoH.
Lorde
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I believe the metagame is like what most people like to run on a particular profession. Such as like how all Infusers used to use LoD... then they nerfed it to the grave. So people switched to WoH.
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arcanemacabre
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Metagame? What is the metagame??? I hear this word all the time but I am not sure what this means.
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So, if a skill turns very, very popular and take over the metagame, they nerf it?
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The general idea is to make all skills balanced, but that is such a sky-high goal it will never be reached. So this switching of metagames is about as good as it's gonna get.
Chik N Nuggets
a problem i see with this is that if they end up nerfing all the skills there will be no soloable areas.. i unno just my opinion.
Redfeather1975
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So, if a skill turns very, very popular and take over the metagame, they nerf it?
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High end PvP has evolved to use tactics that over the years have proven to be most effective. Being forced to deviate from those tactics, just to counter one type of popular build, at the risk of not being able to stack up against those still running the norm is overall bad for the high end PvP game.
When I say using certain tactics, I'm not talking about everyone only using certain builds, but more a strategy involving elements such as runners, pressure, split, spiking, ect.
BTW, anyone can come here and say I'm totally wrong as I have little first hand experience, this is just how I have come to understand it based on what I've observed from watching how others play.
Sab
It's called "Skill Balance".
Read Izzy's reply here for the skill balancing process:
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_...ain_of_Command
As for why Deadly Paradox was changed, it was the basis of an overpowered Deadly Arts build.
Read Izzy's reply here for the skill balancing process:
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_...ain_of_Command
As for why Deadly Paradox was changed, it was the basis of an overpowered Deadly Arts build.
Redfeather1975
What I hope to see in future skill balances is a skill being tweaked in ways to squash the synergies it has that fuel particularly unbalanced builds, and not make the skill itself no longer viable.
I hope that made sense.
I hope that made sense.
undeadgun
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The... what?
Metagame? What is the metagame??? I hear this word all the time but I am not sure what this means. Sin Gwen is cute and is sad Lame Paradox was nerfed. |
Sha Noran
Izzy uses secret technology to assure game balance.
DOCB22
this comes to mind 
Fried Tech
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this comes to mind
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edit: Argh. just realized i quoted a Lazy
Shadowfox1125
Well, I sure don't like seeing Smiting Sins running amok.
Shinde
It's pretty simple. They listen to the whiners, whoever makes the biggest noise. Particularly, the so-called "high-level pvpers" in "famous guilds" who use fancy vocabulary to drive their idiotic points disguised as brilliant ideas across. They make tldr dissertations on multiple forums, and some have direct contact with Izzy himself.
One would think that players supposedly "skilled" at the game would be more open-minded and accepting of builds that simply have good synergy, such as SP and DP, but no, they cry the most and the loudest.
It's all complete BS imo, and these people should have their teeth knocked down their throat with a baseball bat.
One would think that players supposedly "skilled" at the game would be more open-minded and accepting of builds that simply have good synergy, such as SP and DP, but no, they cry the most and the loudest.
It's all complete BS imo, and these people should have their teeth knocked down their throat with a baseball bat.
DreamRunner
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It's pretty simple. They listen to the whiners, whoever makes the biggest noise. Particularly, the so-called "high-level pvpers" in "famous guilds" who use fancy vocabulary to drive their idiotic points disguised as brilliant ideas across. They make tldr dissertations on multiple forums, and some have direct contact with Izzy himself.
One would think that players supposedly "skilled" at the game would be more open-minded and accepting of builds that simply have good synergy, such as SP and DP, but no, they cry the most and the loudest. It's all complete BS imo, and these people should have their teeth knocked down their throat with a baseball bat. |
12chars.....
Sab
Smile Like Umean It
With the way this thread has already started to go, I think it's about ran it's course.
electrofish
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With the way this thread has already started to go, I think it's about ran it's course.
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ahh well so can the kitties come out yet?
Aleta
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It's pretty simple. They listen to the whiners, whoever makes the biggest noise. Particularly, the so-called "high-level pvpers" in "famous guilds" who use fancy vocabulary to drive their idiotic points disguised as brilliant ideas across. They make tldr dissertations on multiple forums, and some have direct contact with Izzy himself.
One would think that players supposedly "skilled" at the game would be more open-minded and accepting of builds that simply have good synergy, such as SP and DP, but no, they cry the most and the loudest. It's all complete BS imo, and these people should have their teeth knocked down their throat with a baseball bat. |
I don't play my monk anymore, don't play my necro much lol I guess to be honest I don't play much anymore.
All the changes that ripped out the heart of Guild Wars, thanks to various crise, moans and complaints has pretty much done the game in
A metagame of what? Grind?
Chicken Ftw
Yawn. Sab won the thread, can we go home yet, or do we need to flame the clueless some more?
YunSooJin
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It's pretty simple. They listen to the whiners, whoever makes the biggest noise. Particularly, the so-called "high-level pvpers" in "famous guilds" who use fancy vocabulary to drive their idiotic points disguised as brilliant ideas across. They make tldr dissertations on multiple forums, and some have direct contact with Izzy himself.
One would think that players supposedly "skilled" at the game would be more open-minded and accepting of builds that simply have good synergy, such as SP and DP, but no, they cry the most and the loudest. It's all complete BS imo, and these people should have their teeth knocked down their throat with a baseball bat. |
If you think ANET is stupid enough to listen to players based on fancy vocabulary, you should be the one being beaten with a baseball bat. And I'd spare your face, but I would not spare your balls. That way you'd never be able to spread your stupidity in a lasting fashion. Look at the arguments the players are making, and realize that they have hundreds if not thousands of more hours invested in the game than you. Just because you're an idiot who can't see a cause doesn't mean everyone else has to wear the same god damn blinders you do.
HawkofStorms
Actually I find it funny that that scrub account was probablly made today just to criticize and insult people (its probablly a secondary account of some other user so as to not "defame" his "true" idenity). How lame can you be that you won't even acknowledge your own position?
Shinde
Those pics made me lol 
Fortunately for Aleta, s/he is not brainwashed like you all.
YunSooJin. Hours spent, trim on cape, phoenix... whatever the hell else, don't make them right. They just want the game to be played their way and theirs only, and ruin it for the everyone else. Pity Anet can be pressured into listening... how/why exactly, I know not. I like your wordplay on the balls though, might use it sometime.
To guy with the battlecruiser avatar, X Cytherea X was banned and is not coming back. I didnt really like the name anyway (made it during a temporary fixation on a pr0nstar).
I'll try to "be good" this time, although people here often misconstrue the painful truth for trolling. Anyhow, it must be read.
Fortunately for Aleta, s/he is not brainwashed like you all.
YunSooJin. Hours spent, trim on cape, phoenix... whatever the hell else, don't make them right. They just want the game to be played their way and theirs only, and ruin it for the everyone else. Pity Anet can be pressured into listening... how/why exactly, I know not. I like your wordplay on the balls though, might use it sometime.
To guy with the battlecruiser avatar, X Cytherea X was banned and is not coming back. I didnt really like the name anyway (made it during a temporary fixation on a pr0nstar).
I'll try to "be good" this time, although people here often misconstrue the painful truth for trolling. Anyhow, it must be read.
Avarre
I think we're done here.