Hey, how come luxon and kurziks don't...

have emotes? Alliance Battle is the ideal place to use these emotes.

Kill kill, dead foe, emote, while you emotes, and having fun dancing over the dead bodies, you gets kill... rofl..

A big turtle emote for Luxon and a big Juggernaut for Kurziks.

not an idea just a chat about this, wants to see what the reactions from other players are.

Because we HA snobs need to have something special so we can be better then everyone else... lawl, /sarcasm.

Meh, I think emotes should be added for all PvP titles, but AB is pushing the term PvP. Perhaps at r8+ perhaps. Glad title needs one for sure, as does champion.

For Champ
Guild Lord jumps into the air and rams a big sword in the ground

Sounds like an interesting idea.. I mean, if you're at r12 Kurz/Lux, you're a goddamn Savior!

Savior doesnt make you good at the game or even AB. I know a handfull of saviors from both kurzicks and luxons. And at least half of them still think mending + HB is a good combo on a war

Neither does HA, I know tons on R10s+11s who flat out suck at the game, they stand in AOE, group up, don't weapon swap, can't pre-prot etc etc. But they get an emote.

Every title should have an emote but unfortunitly Arena Net are a bunch of lazy bums and won't add it into the game.

Same here

I wouldn' t mind, it would still be recognisable as an AB emote, so people will exactly know what it' s worth (2 weeks non stop FFF gogogogo).

I wanna flash my bunny in your face ' cos I recently hit defender of the kurzicks .

HA players can be pretty baed to, I Pugged a lot there and the things I seen there would make even an AB-er cringe. There are many good teams there, but HA usually strikes me as an overrated snob arena.

It doesn' t matter to me how hard it is to get an emote, it' s just a vanity item, same as unique weapon skins.

If you want emotes to be prestigious scale them up. AB emotes get small livestock such as hares and small birds .
TA should get medium sized animals such as cats and hunting dogs, or a sturdy boar.
HA already has wolves and mooses.
GvG should get all kinds of huge dinosaurs and mammoths, would be cool to have a raptor emote ' cos you are champion.

I would quite happily take a Glad, Balth and AB title plz....

^^^ ...The title surely doesnt immediately make them a good player, or good at the game at all......but I know when I reach R12, Im gona run w/e the hell I want...and have a good time doing it.

Echo Mending will be quite easily maintained on my Warrior when he packs his useful Blessed signet..... ....

..at the same time, I doubt your statement quite much-ly

Because Arena.net doesn't have animators on staff.


I'm convinced of this because they've only come out with new dances and rank emotes since the release.

Well since we're talking about rank emotes what's the problem?

On topic: I agree with pretty much all this stuff but the 30 second counter would have to work across them all, everyone keeping up a constant stream of rank emotes would probably both annoy and lag me.

Makes no sense. So not only a title.. now you want an EMOTE for running around melandru's hope?!

Emotes are cool. The more the better. For AB, sure. Ab'ers though, not people who run around all day just clicking running skills who may not even know what attacking actually is.

Somebody FFF's rank 5+. Is it fair that he then walks into his first AB ever spamming an AB emote, just because he got his faction for the same title track another way? No.

There would have to be a way to define who got the faction solely from AB, and those that chose the non-fun, non-fighting way to get it. But that just makes things complicated.

Maybe they can make it so you have to redeem both Balth and Alliance Faction for the emotes. But it's not something we really need so I don't really expect them to add anything like this. So with or without, doesn't really matter... People are already cocky on both ends so makes no difference.

Its not that hard to get also a champion Title. I know alote of Pll that just buyed a Guild and Farmed there the Champion r3. Also alote of ppl just ask high rank guilds on double champ point events to farm in there guild. For each point they got, they give alote of gold to the Guild members. On the other Hand the GvG Players has the Gold, Silver and Bronce Cape Trim. There shoudnt, thats enough for showing of, and there shoudnt be also an emote for GvG players.

All of u are forgetting the HB. If there will be an emote, then they should be also get one.

My opinion is.

AB is not a real PvP (i know PvP = Player vs Player). If u dont just Mob around and Cap the Shriens, ur fine. The only big difference in PvE and PvP in AB is that u play against real Players. Thats the felling that AB gives me everytime.
And also the kurzicks and the Luxons has there FFF. Lots of em are getting there title form FFF and not from AB.

Ur telling us that the size of the emotes should be showing the gamestyle. There is no need for that. There is a benefit in TA/RA HB. If u got a Rank u can show it with ur title. If u try to play a more harder PvP Style and u get a Rank Like HA u get a Title/Emote. And the Last Station of PvP is GvG. The reward of a good GvG Player is a Title/Cape-Trim. So u can see. Ra/Ta HB is something for beginner and the higher u come the higher the reward. Like the Rainbow Phoenix.

If u come up like that, then everyone should be able to get a RAINBOW Phoenix, and not just the PvE players.

If u would say give the RA/TA anything else, like special color on the Head Piece or anything else that is just Special for Ra/TA HB, i would understand that. E-Mote is something that is just for HA. If u want an emote one, Play HA. Its not that hard to get r3 in a Double Fame event.

I think AB doesnt deserve a e-mote. If ppl are that smart on doing FFF then they should get there Rainbow Phoenix.

I played in the last double Point AB event with the Any alliance (Holding Cavalon). U cant choose the other two teams, Its like taking Henchs in ur team that u cant controll. No big coordination in the three teams. Lots of mobs. If u loose ur team its hard to find them. There is even no chance to coordinate the teams via voice com, coz the teams are randomly. It was awsome. But after the event everyone moved back to FFF. Lol. No emote for AB for sure. Even in Urgoz/Deep u can Controll a team of 12. coz u see them in ur Party Menu. U know the time they get dmg u can give them AEgis or HP them. AB Is like my team + two other Teams of PvE vs alote of other PvEs. The anym teams are behaving alos like PVE coz of lack of coordination.

I wouldn't mind having an AB emote, as long as they nerf FFF. Even tho i'm in a hardcore luxon points farming guild, I just hate when someone shows his R10+ when you know he got it through FFF and is not even able to come up with a decent build.

Common misconception, some people are just doing it wrong. It's not only capping shrines, it's defending them too.

I like this idea a lot. Don't care if I'm biased cos I love 4vs4. Everyone agrees that TA at least needs SOME love.
Yeah the FF is a problem, but I know so many people that find FFF boring to tears and just AB when they need faction. Same could go for people grinding fame playing lame builds.
Improvising takes skill too imho, the surprise element is as interesting as it's annoying. works both ways.

In my personal opinion emotes are just a fun-to-have thing and I have no trouble with people that don't 'deserve' it. Why shouldnt someone not deserve a green weapon because he bought it from another player instead of farming it himself? Ab titles may be easy to farm, but you need a crap load of points to earn a significant rank, so the amount of effort thet's put in it is not to be underestimated. Still, I think you convinced me with the idea of giving every arena something special. I actually like that better then emotes.

And sry for forgetting about hero battles, I didn't even play it once so it didn't cross my mind.

Highly amusing post and thread. With all the talk from PvErs about PvP "elitism," "snobs," and "12 year-olds," here we have a showcase of irony and hypocrisy at their finest; PvErs displaying that same disgusting and juvenile attitude at the very idea of having emotes in a PvE arena.

Beautiful.

U need gold to buy the greens. to get gold there two ways in this game. E-bay or Farm. I will not start the diskussion about ebay. But Farming other point then greens is also a big work and that one deserve to buy a green. U cant Farm everythink in this game. Thats why we have a trade community. (NvM its OT)

Every Title in GW needs alote of effort.
I like the way that after rank of title title u get a Rainbow Phoenix.
I still see AB as a non PvP match (like to say, iam Playing every PvP Parts in GW and nearly all PvE thinks). Like i sad. its not giving me and the most other HA/GvG players the feeling to play PvP.

As Example:
If two good Guilds (they are also well known) meet in HA then then they have respect from each other, coz they know that there is a big chance to loose them. Same for GvG or HB. If i got in RA my 10ths win and go into TA i know that we will loose for 90% coz there is a chance that we can get a really good organizated team.
In AB nothing of that. Ok if i see a lame toucher team then i get a bit of fear and i make my circle running around the shrine to not get touched. Or if i see a N/D with lich Aura and my team has no enchantment remove with em. And so on. But if a HzH Holding Team is meeting a A Cavalon Holding Team nothing happens. They even dont know each other.
There is more competition between the Luxon Guilds and Alliances then the Luxon-Kurzicks.

Edit: I think we need to define first what PvP (Player vs Player) in GW is. If iam in DoA and a player (maybe the Tank) is pissed coz of the others. And if he sad: "Iam doing nothing more for u" and ur nealy to finish the map. and he goes against the other palyers with nothing doing. Is that not a PvP?? In a PvE match that Tank is Doing PvP. He is going against other Players?? LA Two players are Diskussiong hard about something. Is that not PvP?

So lets define first what PvP in GW is . And then we can Talk if AB is PvP or not. And i think we need to open a new Thread to diskuss this coz this is OT.

I don't quite get why an AB emote suggestion thread turned to farming gold for greens, but anywho..

Or casual play.

Not many greens require "big work". Only maybe certain DoA greens..

I put alot of work into Canthan Explorer (60%). If you're talking max? Protector is er.. alot of effort? Hmm..

I lol'ed.

Player vs Player. What more needs to be said? You are a player.. killing other players. Genius! AB doesn't really classify as that because most of your time is spent killing NPC's, and then capping that shrine. The only 2 exceptions should be:

- If your team has all 7 shrines.
- Fighting other morons in order to hold / take over a shrine.

If u would read first the other posts, then u would understand what we did mean with greens. U should understand what a metaphor is.

For ur sarcasm u should get also an emote. Some of my PVE chars has 30%. With a bit effort i can push them to 60%. We are talking about "effort" about "alote of work". A r3 hero title doesnt need also alote of work and u have ur E-mote.
A r1 Commander Title and Glady Title doesnt need also alote of work to get.
Plz just think before ur comming with aggressive sarcastic and stupid comments.

Dont take a piece of a whole text. I sad a bit Fear .
Here is the whole text.
And here is the Important part for u
and not the "a bit fear"


First of all read this all.
"Killing other Players" is ur definition. With ur definition a real war is also a PvP.
Generals are the Players. Generals are just sitting on there maps and moving there armys.

Just to say it AGAIN. Before ur making any comments, think about them. Mister genius

Online Pocker is also a Player vs Player. And there ur not killing other players.

Just to make it clear. We are talking about the definition of PvP in GW.

Edite: To gain the 7 Shrines u need to compete (this is a way of PvP) with the enemy Teams. Even if ur the most of the Time Killing NPCs in AB. Is Competition enough to define PvP in GW?

Sry for going so much OT.

Just to confirm i don't need to quote your whole post everytime i want to reply. I quote what's relevant. What i said in reply to the quote was correct, so using another part of your text to backup a counter argument is actually just contradicting yourself.

What i meant was.. why should a topic on AB titles turn to farming for greens? Do you see a connection?

Why thank you.

You seem to think "effort" and "alot of work" are the same thing. I can make the effort to walk down the stairs. That doesn't make it alot of work.

You said it as fear of a toucher. So i laughed.

No need to keep saying this, i read your whole post.

Incase you didn't notice this is a gaming fansite. Not a vietnam news report. By killing other players, i'd be referring to ingame situations.

It's ok, you can have one too

Ok i'll re-word. Killing other characters in Guildwars. Sorry for the inconvenience.

No not really, you just need to kill shrine NPC's quicker than they do and not stop to pound E/D tanks.

I wouldn't mind it

@Deaths:
I am not even going to waste forum resource to quote your WALLS OF HAX TEXT. Just stop talking. You failed at page 1.

you could just go HA if you really want an emote

this is a bad idea

U even didnt read the whole think taking again pieces of the text and making ur interpretation. The Green items was just a metaphor to compare it with something else.
This is also a sarcasm and it means u dont derserve a Emote for ur sarcasm.

For the point of "effort".
Ur the one that put effort and alote of work into one pot.

Even High Ranks of the holders of Cavalon and HzH has respekt against a Toucher Team in AB. A toucher in HA GvG or TA is a laughing Build, but not a Toucher Team in AB.

U gived just a definition about pvp that looked like a Vietnam war. U even didnt put it in combination with GW. Ur definition even just for GW is clumsy.

When did u played the last time AB. E/D tankes lol. Who the hell is still playing E/D tank in AB. In the event i saw on the whole matches i made just 1 E/D tank. I rend and corrupted him with my necro and he was dead in a few secs.
There are also Teams that are trying to defend Shrines that are important
(like the rez Shrine, or the bridge and others).
I think u didnt played a looong time in Ab and now u try to give any comments. Laugh about Toucher team in AB and pound E/D tank. Oo

So u think the Players that Cap faster the shrines and the ones that are holding them is not a Competion. And Competion is not a Part of PvP?? So a F-1 or Nascar race is also not a Competition?? And i would say take a look on this Webside http://www.guildwars.com/competitive/default.php.

Edit:
@AuraofMana
Show me good point in failing
@TheHaxor

Quoted for TRUTH

I don't like the "go HA if you want an emote" point. I don't like HA, i don't think it's interesting, you copy someone's build, learn how to run it, you're done, gogo r9. No it's not hard to get to R3, I did my r2 using dual smite and I was clueless, shows how skill is involved.

AB is interesting. Say whatever you want, there is a tactical part in AB. You may not be fighting real players most of the time but how you counter their movements, how you analyse how they play, THIS is the PvP part of AB. You do not hack n slash sure. That's still Player versus player. That may be not the way you play either. If you run around capping shrines randomly, you need to reconsider your tactic.

Now about emotes, that would kill that elitist shit that is getting on kid's heads. But as I said before, kill FFF first (e.g. reward = half, maybe 1/3), Otherwise yes it would just be another PvE grind title.

Gogo flame me cause I said AB=pvp


Ho yeah OT: toucher team is fun to play and can be quite effective, considering that most toucher counters are being considered and dealt with on one of the 4 touchers bringing counters.

Emotes for AB is a really bad idea...

When you consider that 3/4 of ab players use wiki builds (or worse) and are mainly sins played by 13 year old brats emotes quickly become a bad idea.

however how many of those kids continue farming faction points? if you set a high enough rank requirement for the first emote (I assume there would be more than one), They'd get the first one, maybe the second one...kinda same as HA to me.

R9 is really that easy? Wow and here I thought that map tactics were important. It would be easy to get R9 if you surrounded by other good players who knew how to play their role effectively, followed directions well, and knew successful map tactics. However, you are basically saying that HA is easy because you got R2 running a brainless build. Last time I checked it takes like 75 fame to get R2, while it takes 4,665 fame to get R9. It is possible to grind fame like that, but it takes forever and isn't worth your time.

If you think AB is interesting, you should like HA. AB is basically a 24-man cap point map. How diverse can the tactics be? At least HA gives you a blend of many types of maps.

P.S. I would know how brainless AB is considering I was in [dth] when they held Cavalon. We won around 9/10 battles we entered, regardless of venue. The tactics were always the same and they were always effective.

No what i meant was more that you can get your R9 just knowing how to run a build you copied. To me it's basically the same as copying a build on wiki.

I must admit that the interesting part of HA is that it forces you to adapt to multiple situations. But you know what to expect from your ennemy. He has the same objectives.
In AB, where noobs are everywhere, you don't know whether you're gonna have to face hard cappers (you know those who say "capcapcapOMG" when they are capping the first shrine they see), narutards...
I start seing similarities in HA and in AB actually. (I see this being quoted soon)

Hmm no need to completely bash HA, about emotes, that death guy keeps on rambling, but I liked his idea about a special touch for every type of arena. GvG has the capes, HA the emotes, what would be good for TA and the rest? Fun is that most fervent TA players on this forum probably don't give a f*ck about emotes, so I'm probably pleading for a cause noone really cares about :P.

You know what happens to teams who copy builds? They lose to teams that are better at it then they are. If you are only farming noobs it is going to take forever for you to gain rank. This is what I meant by the term "grind." Besides, your argument is ridiculous since you can copy builds anywhere you play (this includes AB... you can run TA builds there and destroy people).

I'm guessing you are one of those people who gets angry when they get farmed by someone running a typical shock axe build in RA. Someone running a popular build doesn't mean they just copied it... it could also mean they feel most comfortable running that build.

Yes, that's exactly what I mean. You can copy build anywhere. It's just that I never hear it when we talk about HA. I was just trying to demonstrate that there is no real reason why HA got emotes and other forms of pvp gets "hated" when we talk about having one.

And please stay on topic, and lets not start having this thread going on attacking people personnally, it's too frequent on guru these days. I'm not "on of this persons", and you have no idea what is my pvp history.

bungusmaximus I had the same thought. In fact, AB gets the pve skills in a certain way...

Well emotes would encourage more max titles which would cause more UW and FoW time for everyone (unless they don't count towards that, if so my bad)

I want a turtle luxon emote that shoots

So what if you're good or bad at the game. This is about an emote, not how good you are at the game. You could have said the same about fame. Remember the IWAY days?

Hee hee. Silly touchers.

Anyway, I agree that an emote for Kurzicks and Luxons would be cool; however, I think that some of the other titles should have emotes, like Gladiator or Champion. Also, why limit it to PvP? Some PvE emotes would be nice, too. Especially the ones that don't have any effect in game already (ie, Guardian, Drunkard, etc.).

And as a side note, the term "PvP" suggests Competitive play, as generally in competitive play, you have a player or team of players working against another player or team of players (player(s) vs. player(s)). This is easy to see in HA, RA, TA, or GvG, but if you actually look at AB, you can see that AB is easily PvP, too. No matter how you spin it, in AB, you're still competing against another team of real people to win. Sure, you might kill more NPCs than PCs, but, in the end, you're still working against the other players.

Ah ok, that's a shame then

Wrong. But it would be pointless explaining why because even with the exact backup quotes in your face, you fail to see them.

You talk like savior's from the Cavalon/HzH alliance mean anything. Sorry to break it to you. They don't. A faction title shows no skill. FFF shows no skill.

Respect for touchers? Thanks for giving me a good laugh again

For someone who cries throughout half his reply "OMG LIEK STOP QUOTING BITS OF MA TXT" you're quite a hypocrite. Look like.. 2 lines down, you will see my reworded definition of PvP in GW. Thank you very much.

Retards. And there will always be retards in AB. Always.

I know. I said that one of the two occasions you PvP is to hold a shrine. But that doesn't happen enough for me to see the format as PvP.

I think you're wrong. I play alot of AB.

<- Defender of Kurzicks (7). So i have uber skillz in PvP now amiright?

/signed. Many of the players concerns are unnecessary. Stop thinking the sky is going to fall in because "retards" or "noobs" from AB, or god forbid fffers, get a emote.

Look at many of the easily grind-able EotN titles. (I know they're PvE). You get consumables, weapons, armor, skills, and bonuses while in that people's land. I don't think having emotes (and the current 1 skill for each profession) for Kurzick and Luxon is too much.

Does it really matter they use wiki builds? I don't think the point here is whether AB is pve or pvp, or how skilled the players are. The point is rewarding players with emote, because, it makes (some) people feel special.

I also am open for emotes for other titles.

And no, telling people to go HA is stupid.

Then stop QQing. HA existed before AB, which is why it gets its own unique bonuses. AB gets perks that HA doesn't. I don't see rank giving you PvE skills... I can't trade in my balth faction for rare crafting materials... it doesn't give me access to any elite dungeons... it is also a tougher place to be successful at.

As I stated before, it is a bad idea to give everything emotes. It would cheapen them. It is a unique part of the game that can only be obtained by doing a certain part of the game. If you don't want to play that part of the game, then you should miss out on the bonuses.