I wanted to start this post to see if we could get the ball rolling for a guide to making money in Guild Wars. I see a lot of crafting guides and quest guides, but no money guide. Please put your two cents and any information as to how you've made it big in Guild Wars.
Molotov
The GOLD Post: Making Gold/Money in Guild Wars
LordMolotov
spiritofcat
There are already a couple of topics about this. You should have searched before making a new topic.
LordMolotov
The idea is to get sort of a guide/sticky post where all information about Gold can be posted here. (Even if it's already been posted; just copy/paste here). This will make the "search" function work better when users are trying to get to this topic.
Molotov
Molotov
Bone_White_Haze
Answer is: Play the game
I've never had a single moment from first armor set to last where I didn't have enough resources to make the upgrade. Guild cape bought, hall bought, nothing else to spend money on. Excess is now piling up with nothing to spend it on.
Never merchanted a single item, or farmed a specific area for 'great lewt'. No special effort at all beyond selling intelligently to merchants.
The sky is raining gold. It's valueless.
I've never had a single moment from first armor set to last where I didn't have enough resources to make the upgrade. Guild cape bought, hall bought, nothing else to spend money on. Excess is now piling up with nothing to spend it on.
Never merchanted a single item, or farmed a specific area for 'great lewt'. No special effort at all beyond selling intelligently to merchants.
The sky is raining gold. It's valueless.
Romac
when i kill stuff, gold drops
then i pick it up
i had nothing to spend it on so i had 250 stacks of most common crafting materials, tons of rare crating materials, and about 10 plat
but then i got to droknar's and bought a whole new suit of the best armor in the game for 6 plat so now i only have 4 plat and a bazillion crafting materials, and nothing i need.
I guess i'll use it to twink my lowbie alts.
What do you need gold for anyway?
then i pick it up
i had nothing to spend it on so i had 250 stacks of most common crafting materials, tons of rare crating materials, and about 10 plat
but then i got to droknar's and bought a whole new suit of the best armor in the game for 6 plat so now i only have 4 plat and a bazillion crafting materials, and nothing i need.
I guess i'll use it to twink my lowbie alts.
What do you need gold for anyway?
Romac
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| Slowly but surely money sinks have been added to Guild Wars. Making money pretty important, especially in lower levels where everything is ruinously expensive. That means gaining and making money is going to be a pretty important activity at least until you've played for a while and are stacking up your wealth in big piles. |
I have never farmed anything. I have never sold a thing to another player. I have the best equipment in the game, and have 4 plat left over.
What do i need to farm for again?
Soul Monarch
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Originally Posted by Romac
when i kill stuff, gold drops
then i pick it up i had nothing to spend it on so i had 250 stacks of most common crafting materials, tons of rare crating materials, and about 10 plat but then i got to droknar's and bought a whole new suit of the best armor in the game for 6 plat so now i only have 4 plat and a bazillion crafting materials, and nothing i need. I guess i'll use it to twink my lowbie alts. What do you need gold for anyway? |
Yup, it's all there. Let's summarize:
Step One: Steal Underpants.
Step Two:
Step Three: Profit.
Did I miss anything?
LordMolotov
Well, other than making for a funny read (gotta love sarcasm), you have made a great service to the community; and I thank you. Now, when new players search "Gold" or "Money" this post will pop up easily and they won't have to ask questions. Thanks again...
Molotov
Molotov
femto
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Originally Posted by LordMolotov
Now, when new players search "Gold" or "Money" this post will pop up easily and they won't have to ask questions. Thanks again...
Molotov |
I bet that's what the creators of the other dozen money threads thought too
Romac
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Originally Posted by Soul Monarch
Hmmm... lemme check. Kill things... pick up loot... sell loot...
Yup, it's all there. Let's summarize: Step One: Steal Underpants. Step Two: Step Three: Profit. Did I miss anything? |
the point of my post was there is absolutely no reason anyone needs to concern themselves with farming gold/grinding/spamming trade channels when you can EASILY be rich and have THE BEST equipment if you just play the game without hardly even thinking about it.
Ramus
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Originally Posted by Romac
the point of my post was there is absolutely no reason anyone needs to concern themselves with farming gold/grinding/spamming trade channels when you can EASILY be rich and have THE BEST equipment if you just play the game without hardly even thinking about it.
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Maybe its just me, but im one broke warrior at level 16. I do not think ive ever kept more then two plat on me at one time. All of the kits cost quite a bit. Im not sure how you can get rich without selling things/farming/grinding... but maybe im missing something.
Shagsbeard
Gold is a poor label for the stuff we are finding. It should be more like "paper clips". There's no real value for the stuff. It will cease to be a medium of exchage shortly, as soon as a good number of people realize that after they make a level 20 character, there is no real need for the stuff. Sure... there's costs in the game, but they're either one time costs, or they're incidental. A 1 plat admission fee to an area that produces huge gains... no biggie. Items don't decay. Good items are found quite easily. The best items are only a fraction better than the good items.
This game will never have a gold based economy, nor should the designers change that fact or worry about it. The way to make more gold is simple. Play the game. Get to level 20. Keep playing the game. Anyone who is concerned about maximizing the rate at which they gain gold is doing it for accademic purposes only. There's no need to.
This game will never have a gold based economy, nor should the designers change that fact or worry about it. The way to make more gold is simple. Play the game. Get to level 20. Keep playing the game. Anyone who is concerned about maximizing the rate at which they gain gold is doing it for accademic purposes only. There's no need to.
Bone_White_Haze
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Originally Posted by Ramus
I was following you until that part.
Maybe its just me, but im one broke warrior at level 16. I do not think ive ever kept more then two plat on me at one time. All of the kits cost quite a bit. Im not sure how you can get rich without selling things/farming/grinding... but maybe im missing something. |
For instance, perusing the crafting guide for the types of materials I'm likely to need for an elementalist, you come up with cloth and scales (mostly). Both of them lead to obvious things to attempt salvaging (anything cloth-y or carapice/scale-y). I don't need to salvage weapons, they get converted directly to coin. I don't need to salvage 'collectible' pickups, so collect five of each kind (to trade with collectors) and sell any excess.
Worried you might need bone/iron/whatever to twink an alt some day? Then salvage the cheap junk until you've got a maxed stack in storage...and stop, sell the rest. Or let the alt make his own bloody materials...there's no shortage, and he won't go broke doing it.
Identified a magic rune on a bow? Sure, I'll yank that offa there and pass it to a guildmate, but I surely don't need one. Maybe he's got an elemental he'll swap for it.
Don't buy dye. Vanity spending when you can't afford it is...American.
(Now maybe you're one of those poor folks who had to come up with fur squares in a broken distribution system, and thus you're broke--if so I commiserate--but that's fixed now).
Shagsbeard
The biggest mistake people are making is going through areas with the maximum number of henchmen in order to progress through the missions as quickly as possible. They get quite deep into the game and are surprized to find that they didn't find as much stuff as people who went through exploring every corner, using area's that they could do with minimal help from henchmen or group members. This game style has always given people the impression that it's "hard" to get gold, or find items. Again... play the game, but I'll clarify what I mean by that... Play the game like I do.
I tend to go out and explore a map as soon as I have access to it. I'll do any quest I can find, many times more than once. I'll run the missions just to scope them out, before I actually attempt to finish them. There's plenty to pick up this way. I bet you're going to beat me to 20, but then what?
I tend to go out and explore a map as soon as I have access to it. I'll do any quest I can find, many times more than once. I'll run the missions just to scope them out, before I actually attempt to finish them. There's plenty to pick up this way. I bet you're going to beat me to 20, but then what?
Xception
I notice the increasing popularity of "runner groups" these days. Basically people have their lvl 20 W/Mo friends run the maps for them to get to the next town/mission. Its basically free 1k XP and the chance of getting the best armor early. But of course you'll find yourself short of gold if you do it this way.
I did most of the side quests and did all the mission the "normal" way. Never had gold problems.
I did most of the side quests and did all the mission the "normal" way. Never had gold problems.
Arrack de Asante
I re-run missions with guild mates. No experience, but lots of salvage.
Plenty of stuff drops, and I always seem to have a surplus of materials for crafting (except right when I need them, it seems).
Granted I am only 18, and I only have 2 plat to my name, but, I have decent gear and am generally in good shape.
Plenty of stuff drops, and I always seem to have a surplus of materials for crafting (except right when I need them, it seems).
Granted I am only 18, and I only have 2 plat to my name, but, I have decent gear and am generally in good shape.
Romac
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I was following you until that part.
Maybe its just me, but im one broke warrior at level 16. I do not think ive ever kept more then two plat on me at one time. All of the kits cost quite a bit. Im not sure how you can get rich without selling things/farming/grinding... but maybe im missing something. |
when i hit droknar's forge just after i hit lvl 20 i had 10 plat, and full stacks of all the resources i use, looted dye out the wazooo...and i didn't run every quest in the game...since lvl 15 i did little but run missions because i was focussed on ascension. Mainly the only quests i did were for skills.
I updated my armor when i got to post-searing ascalon, then again when i got to the wilds (i'm pretty sure i didn't upgrade at piken, but i may have), then i upgraded my armor again to the best in the game when i got to droknars.
I have never bought a weapon. I have TONS of awesome weapons looted while doing missions. I have awesome axes, swords, shields, runes, and bows that i am saving for alts, i made a couple alts and got them to post searing just so i could buy them all bags and runes of holding so i could store more weapons.
I can't imagine why anyone would ever buy a weapon when so many incredible ones drop like candy.
If you get to 20 and don't have the 6 or so k to buy the droknar's armor then you are probably not being very smart with your loot or you're buying waaay too much crap that you don't need.
femto
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I tend to go out and explore a map as soon as I have access to it. I'll do any quest I can find, many times more than once. I'll run the missions just to scope them out, before I actually attempt to finish them. There's plenty to pick up this way. I bet you're going to beat me to 20, but then what?
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Kokopelli
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femto
so why do these threads about how to make money in GW always have to turn into a "you don't need to farm, just play the game" slam-fest? you can't just play the game and expect to get eveything handed to you. people claim to have 10k by the time they hit droknar? well, buying that armor eats up about a little more than half of that, then what if you need some runes? I really wanted a rune of sup vigor when I got my final set of armor, but I sure as hell didn't have one laying around in storage. cheapest price I've seen for it was 10.5 plat. and the only runes I've found so far were minor and major runes for other professions that I didn't need. So, if it weren't for farming 1) people wouldn't have enough moeny to buy runes and other addons 2) there wouldn't even BE sup vigs for sale, because I sure as hell know if I ever found one I would keep it, and finding a second doesn't happen often
Shadowolf
Oh yes, I see what you mean. This thread is just bursting with excitement and information for confused people. Seriously, you should have just used the search button and posted there. Not trying to be mean, just don't try to waste space.
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Sideways
Selling intelligently is one important thing.
Material trader prices seem to change frequently, so if you have a stack of 200 Tanned hides, and he's offering 10 gold per stack of ten... forget him. However, there will be times when he's offering 70 or 80 gold per stack of ten.
That's when it's time to make some dough.
Material trader prices seem to change frequently, so if you have a stack of 200 Tanned hides, and he's offering 10 gold per stack of ten... forget him. However, there will be times when he's offering 70 or 80 gold per stack of ten.
That's when it's time to make some dough.
Lasher Dragon
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Don't buy dye. Vanity spending when you can't afford it is...American.
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Shagsbeard
So now we're simply argueing semantics. Every stupid arguement eventually does. What I mean by "play" does not agree with your meaning for the word "play". Are you surprized?
My play is resulting in plenty of cash.
Your play is not.
Do you have to play my way? No. I don't even encourage it. You might not even enjoy it. Play the game to have fun in what ever way it's fun for you.
My play is resulting in plenty of cash.
Your play is not.
Do you have to play my way? No. I don't even encourage it. You might not even enjoy it. Play the game to have fun in what ever way it's fun for you.
Leventh
I should be charging people for this but what the hell..
On the 2nd to last mission Abaddon's Mouth there is a wreckage not more then a 20 sec. run into the mission, there is but only a small patch of lava to slow you down (no mobs). Half way to the wreckage a NPC gives you a 50% speed buff, making this trick all the better. This wreckage will drop 1-3 items each worth no less then 40g. Figure an average of 60g every 20 sec, which is near 180g per min. You also have a small chance of pulling a dragon sword (I have gotten four so-far).
This is by far the best way to get money.
On the 2nd to last mission Abaddon's Mouth there is a wreckage not more then a 20 sec. run into the mission, there is but only a small patch of lava to slow you down (no mobs). Half way to the wreckage a NPC gives you a 50% speed buff, making this trick all the better. This wreckage will drop 1-3 items each worth no less then 40g. Figure an average of 60g every 20 sec, which is near 180g per min. You also have a small chance of pulling a dragon sword (I have gotten four so-far).
This is by far the best way to get money.
goldjas
You know, I came to this thread hoping to find a funner way to make money to afford the 60k set of armor then "Farm Riverside for 50 hours". Insead I came here and found people worthlessly bickering. Thanks for the help guys.
Edit: It seems while I was typing up my message someone posted exactly what i was looking for! Thanks Leventh!
Edit#2: Just tried Levenths method for an hour, and got approximately 4 platinum (a little less I believe) which turns out to be about 67 gold per minute, as opposed to 180, which is about 1/3 what he proposed. Etheir I had a horrible hour, or this really isnt such a great method of money making (FYI, Im a warrior and had sprint on the whole time, so I did it as fast as possibly could be done).
Edit: It seems while I was typing up my message someone posted exactly what i was looking for! Thanks Leventh!
Edit#2: Just tried Levenths method for an hour, and got approximately 4 platinum (a little less I believe) which turns out to be about 67 gold per minute, as opposed to 180, which is about 1/3 what he proposed. Etheir I had a horrible hour, or this really isnt such a great method of money making (FYI, Im a warrior and had sprint on the whole time, so I did it as fast as possibly could be done).
Dazzler
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Originally Posted by goldjas
You know, I came to this thread hoping to find a funner way to make money to afford the 60k set of armor then "Farm Riverside for 50 hours". Insead I came here and found people worthlessly bickering. Thanks for the help guys.
Edit: It seems while I was typing up my message someone posted exactly what i was looking for! Thanks Leventh! Edit#2: Just tried Levenths method for an hour, and got approximately 4 platinum (a little less I believe) which turns out to be about 67 gold per minute, as opposed to 180, which is about 1/3 what he proposed. Etheir I had a horrible hour, or this really isnt such a great method of money making (FYI, Im a warrior and had sprint on the whole time, so I did it as fast as possibly could be done). |
For each 20sec run, there is the overhead of loading the mission, then leaving back to town. There is also the overhead of selling all the phat l00t when your inventory fills up. It would be better if it dropped cold hard cash so you could avoid going to the merchant.
Leventh
i did take that into account, that is why i lowered the average. playing in window mode i will have made at least 100g by the time i finish this post.
hmm.. forget to say that i use windborne speed.. that may be a small factor
edit: lol ok look what ya made me do.. got my stopwatch out 24.55 sec on my last run.. sorry
Breakdown (i used a clock)
Enter Mission Load: 2.74
Wreckage Run: 24.55
Enter Town Load: 2.30
Complete Run time: 29.59 sec
NPC sell time 25sec
average of 80g a run (1+2+3/3*40g=80g)
average of two loot per run (1+2+3/3) approx 40 open slots
20 runs before sell
20 runs = approx 10 min
therefore every 10 min you must tack on 25 sec for sell time.
ofcourse luck does play a large part on your payout.. as well as comp speed
wait.. what was the topic again?
hmm.. forget to say that i use windborne speed.. that may be a small factor
edit: lol ok look what ya made me do.. got my stopwatch out 24.55 sec on my last run.. sorry
Breakdown (i used a clock)
Enter Mission Load: 2.74
Wreckage Run: 24.55
Enter Town Load: 2.30
Complete Run time: 29.59 sec
NPC sell time 25sec
average of 80g a run (1+2+3/3*40g=80g)
average of two loot per run (1+2+3/3) approx 40 open slots
20 runs before sell
20 runs = approx 10 min
therefore every 10 min you must tack on 25 sec for sell time.
ofcourse luck does play a large part on your payout.. as well as comp speed
wait.. what was the topic again?
vempire
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yes i think the only thing you missed is the most important thing...the fact that i was being sarcastic when i said "when i kill stuff, gold drops...then i pick it up"
the point of my post was there is absolutely no reason anyone needs to concern themselves with farming gold/grinding/spamming trade channels when you can EASILY be rich and have THE BEST equipment if you just play the game without hardly even thinking about it. |
Dazzler
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Originally Posted by Leventh
i did take that into account, that is why i lowered the average. playing in window mode i will have made at least 100g by the time i finish this post.
hmm.. forget to say that i use windborne speed.. that may be a small factor edit: lol ok look what ya made me do.. got my stopwatch out 24.55 sec on my last run.. sorry Breakdown (i used a clock) Enter Mission Load: 2.74 Wreckage Run: 24.55 Enter Town Load: 2.30 Complete Run time: 29.59 sec NPC sell time 25sec average of 80g a run (1+2+3/3*40g=80g) average of two loot per run (1+2+3/3) approx 40 open slots 20 runs before sell 20 runs = approx 10 min therefore every 10 min you must tack on 25 sec for sell time. ofcourse luck does play a large part on your payout.. as well as comp speed wait.. what was the topic again? |
LOL. /me gets out a sliderule and abacus. That comes out to 1600g every 10.5 minutes.
Leventh
sounds about right.. but did you factor in the .75 sec it takes to scratch ass?
goldjas
1,600g every 10.5 minutes is over 2x what I had gotten...maybe I need to do another hour run and see how it turns out...another thing, I found in early on in a mission a bunch of drakes that can't hurt me (hit me for 0) and theres a bunch of em, really easy to kill, maybe farming them would make decent money? who knows (though they didn't drop any runes or anything like that)....
Leventh
i think the drakes you speak of are in Sanctum Cay, was told they were removed.. i'll confirm this in a min or so
edit: drakes are still there, but as i remember it the 7 imps along the way can really slow down the farming. Also the items sell to vendor for less.
edit: drakes are still there, but as i remember it the 7 imps along the way can really slow down the farming. Also the items sell to vendor for less.
BlueLaguna
Gold is important in GW unless it was in Diablo.
You are lvl20 and u need..... get best armor, get best weapon and most important get best rune's for ur classes. There is no way doing that without either Farming or Trading. People who just stop after reaching lvl20 will never be good in Pvp and ain't GW all about Pvp??
Good choice of skills and abilities is also very important.
Before i reached lv16 with my char. i made 7.5plat, mostly by tradeing and selling materials to other players and never to vendors.
Also by that time i had full set's of every common dye colors and 4 Black's, and bought by accident a mixed color dye from some1 which i never seen again in trade chat.
Last 2 days i was buying out Steel but i noticed the 1.5p plate armor ain't no better from ringmail that u can get at collectors which is very strage to me.
Anyways if u don't save gold u will never have uber equipment and basically suck in pvp. 0.05€
You are lvl20 and u need..... get best armor, get best weapon and most important get best rune's for ur classes. There is no way doing that without either Farming or Trading. People who just stop after reaching lvl20 will never be good in Pvp and ain't GW all about Pvp??
Good choice of skills and abilities is also very important.
Before i reached lv16 with my char. i made 7.5plat, mostly by tradeing and selling materials to other players and never to vendors.
Also by that time i had full set's of every common dye colors and 4 Black's, and bought by accident a mixed color dye from some1 which i never seen again in trade chat.
Last 2 days i was buying out Steel but i noticed the 1.5p plate armor ain't no better from ringmail that u can get at collectors which is very strage to me.
Anyways if u don't save gold u will never have uber equipment and basically suck in pvp. 0.05€
Leventh
Since this thread started i have made well over 15k all while posting and playing counter-strike.
goldjas
Just got a chance to play this game abit more, so I tried Drake farming for half an hour and got somewhere in the area of 4 platinum. Thats half the time for the same amount of money, I also got a lot better items in general, purples and stuff. Then again, I take no damage from the Drakes (their reg attack does 0 and lightning ball does 3-6, which my Mending heals faster then even 10 of them on me at once can hope to hurt me) and kill them pretty fast, so if someone has trouble with the drakes then it probably wouldnt be the best of options, but it does seem to be superior to the Wreckage farming was.
Taalon
Gold hmmm seems i got 4 chars all just dinking around in game, and im level 10 just bought guild cape, and in my vault alone i have lots of craft supplies, and about 600g thats not taking into account all the gold still on my chars... i probably have near 4plat total and i already spent 2 for the guild... so let me see, yah gold is easy here heck just the same mission you ran at level 5 at level 7 but do it solo talk about making money, the end of the mission is not to finish it but farm the money you need at least thats what i do..
Leventh
your 4 plat is chump change, be ready to throw down 10-15p on a rune.
Kamatsu
Bah, money is so easy to make in this game I can make a guild and buy a guild cape in pre-searing for heavens sake! hehe.. and have gold left over :P
Yes, I know.. I lurk around n00bville way too long.. hehehehehe .. I also run back and forth making sure to sell EVERYTHING too.. hehehehehe
Yes, I know.. I lurk around n00bville way too long.. hehehehehe .. I also run back and forth making sure to sell EVERYTHING too.. hehehehehe