BMP~ Weapons~ Hall of Monuments.

Is NcSoft and Anet going to make the Weapons from the Bonus Mission Pack available for dislpay in the Hall of Monuments?
I hope that they do, otherwise the BMP seems like a waste of time to me.
Except for the 7.5k per cmpleteing the 3 extra discoveries per mission.
Plus some of the skins are really nice compared to some of the destroyer skins, specifically the daggers and staffs.
Plus if Anet makes it available for the Hall of Monuments the books might become SOMEWHAT valuable, and the population that has BMP seems fairly low.
P.S. My favorite set of weapons is the Tengu, specifically the daggers, sword and staff. Nice work.

No. Actual rare perfects first. Then tormented Items. Then Greens. BMP wasnt for everyone so it shouldn't be added. It shouldn't be added even if everyone had it anyway.

Books can't be traded. They're customised.

Wouldn't mind seeing the weapons in the HoM, though.

Books aren't tradeable. Weapons from bmp and books are customized. I personally am very glad this is the case or there would be even more whining.

If they change HoM at all it would be to add tormented, greens etc. Least I hope so lol. While bmp skins are very pretty and I'm happy as hell to have them, I have many others I'd choose first.

for the reason I believe you can trade of sell books see this post
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10227568

MY BAD, wrong post. I can't find the right one, and don't have time to.

where in that thread does it suggest that these books are tradable?

it doesnt......-.-

they are not tradeable

nowhere in that thread suggests it

and if they were tradeable dont you think someone would have been selling them from the very start?

a little common sense please

Everyone did has a chance to get it, they just didn't take advantage of it.

I wish they did add it to the Hall of Monuments, this is why:

Yet another blow for those who though Anet's bonuses sucked.
-I love the way they complained, this would make them even madder.
The skins are very nice and deserve to be in the Hall of Monuments.
-These skins are extremely nice, some people might argue the best so far, and they deserve no less.

Dangit that was the wrong article MY BAD, I can't find the right one.
It said something about it is not customized until you get the book authorized.
So you can complete the mission (all 6 pages complete unauthorized) and sell it to someone and they can get it authorized and get the weapon.
So it might work, im gonna try tonight.

Gaile already said no other weapons will be added to HoM, she said the weapon's monument was designed for the destroyer weapons and this will not change anytime soon(search for her in-game log's).

I'm not going into why not everyone had a chance, read the closed thread if you care, I dont think you do you just want to make your opinion.

Items that you get for free after doing a few quests should not be added, destroyer weapons are working as an ok system right now, they have 2 years probably to update it. Rare perfect non insc items should be the next group to be added then torment items, then whatever, just not these items.
I doubt it would make everyone madder if they did, I didnt get it but im ok. I could afford to max the HoM weapon section out right now but theres no point yet, also I'd rather see worthwhile items, not lame quest items. Why dont they just add every quest reward in the game?

The books come customized when you get them, just like the Dungeon book in EoTN.

well i guess anet has thought of everything to suck the cash outta this one.
My bad, I read an article somewhere, cant remember where. Maybe I got confused with the articale in wiki about how you can not place your book in inventory after it was authorized.
And the only reason i suggested that these weapons be added to HoM is cause they seem hardly worth anything otherwise.
Oh, well thanks to everyone for the feed back.

We have been having a lot of books later. Is it because it's nearing the finals :'(

/Agree
Nothing To Add.

Alright here's the deal. This is a reply, although I apologise if it leads into a rant too much.

People complain quite alot about the fact that only destroyer weapons can be placed in the Hall of Monuments, without ever actually considering that it's probably like this for a reason. Look at what the Hall of Monuments is for...it isn't for showing off the elite golds you've worked hard (or traded hard) to obtain. Nor is it for displaying the weapons you payed $30 in the online store to aquire. No. It's for Destroyer weapons. Why? Because the Hall of Monuments is there for one purpose. To allow players to take their achievements in one GW on to GW2. Why only destroyer weapons? Well let's see. The designers of GW have their work cut out creating 3D Character models, animating them to hold weapons, fight, run, adding hundreds of emotes, tens of armour sets. They have to then do this AGAIN for enemy character models. Each is likely to be fairly unique, and look at GW; alot of enemy are reskins, but there are still an INSANE number of character, enemy and object skins and skeletons. Then they have to create a HUGE 3-dimensional world, textures, screenshots, weapons. Then they have to find a way to get this bundle of graphical orgasm to run with multiple operating systems and a huge variety of variously specced PCs before they FINALLY mass-produce, box and sell (after promoting) the final product.

Now imagine if every single "perfect" weapon translated into GW2? Each Req7 through 10? 11? weapon of various skin translated into something unique in GW2. That would mean creating TWO full weapon sets...one linking to a GW1 HoM line, and one linking to a GW2 "new and improved" set of weapon skins to impress us all.

They already have to carry over more than 100 armour sets, over 50? minipets, 25 heroes (which I guess some of whom will re-appear) and, what, 40 or so? titles.

Perhaps they have sat down and thought "We need a weapon stand for GW1, but which weapons should we allow?" They figure that anyone rich enough to own perfect r7-10 weapons can PROBABLY afford this new, shiny lava enhanced destroyer weapon, and thus will gain the rewards. If not, players can treat it like FoW; farm for the cash and craft one themselves.

Final note; lets say they DO add support for 'perfect' weapons. Who has the right to say what's rare or not? 15^50, 20/20, +30hp isn't the only popular statted weapon. Caster weapons, stance/enchant weapons. And then what about rare "skins"? I don't remember the last time I saw someone wielding a perfect caster forked-sword on their Monk. That makes it, by all definitions, a rare perfect weapon for players?

Anyways, hope this has maybe given the people who sit and whine about how they want a way to show off ALL their shinies in one place something to think about.

they are to easy to get making it not much of an accomplishment

/notsigned

are you sure this is how things work? where did you get the info from? especially the bit about how they're going to do it in GW2

I still don't see you're argument against HoM including weapons other than destroyers.

By your standards, tormented weapons should be allowed into the hall of monuments. They are always a set req gold perfect blah. It would add a very small number of weapons skins to the hom.

Also, putting stuff in the hall of monuments wont necessarily get us new weapons in gw2. We might start out with 1g per item/title in the HoM when we play gw2, or maybe some stupid title.

BMP weapons are easier and cheaper to get than weapons crafted in towns. They only really have novelty value. After the initial hours of thinking "whoa, these are so cool... best skins yet!" I eventually calmed down and didn't actually replace any of my current weapons (except one plain wooden flatbow I use for pulling. had to use the book for something).

The weapons are free & have no value. People want things ingame that have value, therefore after the novelty of the BMP weapons wears off very few people will still be using them as they're cheap and common.

Cheap/Common items don't really have a place in HoM as it's not an achievement.

As for people asking to allow more weapons into HoM... why would you want to give yourself even more work to fill out your HoM? I've no idea why people would want to make things more difficult for themselves. I'm already putting off filling it as my main doesn't have much use for all 10 destroyer weapon skins. Just be glad it's only 10 weapons you have to put in there to gain the maximum benefit from it.

Nice mature reply there. Good to see so many young children posting on guru .

Yes, perhaps Tormented Weaponry is a valid addition. It's a limited set, with each of the weapons covered, and would add limited things to GW2. But taking this into every OTHER weapon in the game? No. Bad plan.

And everything I posted there is based off interviews and magazine articles I have read. Perhaps they would provide a title for us in GW2, but I highly doubt they would reward your GW1 achievements/funds by IMMEDIATELY making you rich in GW2. Fair chance for each player would totally go out the window with that. I'd guess something very similar to /bonus.

/agree. Devaney wins Riverside.

+1

Seriously, if anything, these skins are most worthy of HoM status. /endthread

/Notsigned for HoM on these...

But to the folks saying BMP weapons have no value...?huh?

They have as much "value" as any other weapon. They're for hitting things until they die and they seem to work just as good for that as any other weapon.

/notsigned

Whats next, add all whites to HoM?

Your entire post describes Destroyer Weapons almost exactly, fyi.

Whites have nothing to do with BMP weapons, or even golds and greens.

No one is saying whites should go in BMP.

Well, depends on how you look at it I guess. Destroyer weapons are what, roughly 75kish? (not sure mat prices atm) and BMP weapons are free so in that respect they aren't really cheap when compared to something that costs nothing.

Only stuff that's really worth anything are the 10 diamonds and onyx gemstones, which, incidentally, are also dungeon rewards (sometimes).

Would be approximately 75k if you had to buy them, because onyx gemstones are worth 5.5k each, mainly. They're much easier to get than most decent uniques, though.

I like the Idea.

If nothing else just to piss off alot of other people.


but really they need to fix the display not what weapons are displayed.

I agree fully.

I like it, they are historical weapons after all. HoM=Historical type thing for GW2.