The Preserved Iris Flower

mazey vorstagg

mazey vorstagg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Nodnol

Meeting of Lost Minds

E/Mo

We now know from the BMP that Gwen never went to Elona, she just escaped the Charr in Ascalon and met up with the ebon vanguard in far shiverpeaks pretty quickly.

So, why is there a preserved iris flower in a chest on the Barbarous shore?

Was it just a design team lore inconsistency, or is something greater at work here?

Kotetsu Rain

Kotetsu Rain

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Utopia

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Hey your right... WTF?

Operative 14

Operative 14

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Arizona, USA

[OOP] Order of the Phoenix I

Perhaps Gwen became dissatisfied with her life in the Ebon Vanguard and joined the corsairs for a brief stint?

Arrgh, I be Captain Gwen, and so forth.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

This may be a shock, but Gwen may not have been the only person in the world who liked the Red Iris Flowers. There could have easily been someone either from Ascalon (or Charr territories), or have visited those areas, that was a Corsair, joined the Corsair afterwards, or was plundered by Corsair en route somewhere. That flower could have made it's way, preserved, by a multitude of different ways - it doesn't have to have anything to do with Gwen.

杀TanK杀

杀TanK杀

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

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I agree with the post above, nowhere did it say it was only gwen. Who knows who had them...

mazey vorstagg

mazey vorstagg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Nodnol

Meeting of Lost Minds

E/Mo

Yeah but it's a bit odd, seeing as they were related completely to Gwen. Other Iris Flowers were picked and handled by Gwen. It's like someone finding Togo's Staff in Snake Dance and someone else saying, well it might have been someone else who took it there.

It real life it could have been true. But in a game I doubt the idea was "oh let's put an iris flower here. but Gwen hasn't been here? Someone else could have taken it though".

arsie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2007

N/

It is Mhenlo I tell you. He's been everywhere.

NO MHENLO! SHE WAS JUST A KID!!

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by mazey vorstagg
Yeah but it's a bit odd, seeing as they were related completely to Gwen. Other Iris Flowers were picked and handled by Gwen. It's like someone finding Togo's Staff in Snake Dance and someone else saying, well it might have been someone else who took it there.
Uhh, no, it's nothing like that. Now, if it said: "Gwen's Preserved Red Iris Flower," then you'd be onto something. After all, our characters picked them up all the time - does that mean it could be linked to our characters, too? Just because Gwen is the only NPC that will accept them as gifts doesn't mean they have anything to do with Gwen.

The only link is the location in which they could be picked, not any one person.

Operative 14

Operative 14

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Arizona, USA

[OOP] Order of the Phoenix I

Perhaps they were left by that weirdo/stalkerish assassin guy in the Char territories in GW:EN? He looks like an Ascalonian to me, and I think he's supposed to be one. He's traveled all over the place as well, so it's not entirely unpluasible that he might have visited that corner of Elona.

Friday

Friday

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

[DVDF]

No other character in Guild Wars is associated with a the iris flowers, only Gwen. Lore consistency FTW.

I thought originally (before GW:ENs release) that the only reason for this to be there was to provide Elonian characters with a means to attain one... except now they also spawn just outside the Eye of the North outpost, and in the Charr Homelands. So I can't figure it out.

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

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Maybe it had something to do with Utopia, lore wise.

Biostem

Biostem

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2007

I put it there!!!! Can we close the thread now?

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

I have one of these in storage. I'm still debating to toss it or keep it. Was hoping I'd get an answer here. Guess not.

Red Herring From Anet?

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by arsie
It is Mhenlo I tell you. He's been everywhere.

NO MHENLO! SHE WAS JUST A KID!!
lmao That's hilarious. It makes you wonder.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Friday
No other character in Guild Wars is associated with a the iris flowers, only Gwen. Lore consistency FTW.
Again, the link to the flower is entirely location, not an individual. Just because Gwen is the only NPC that reacts to the item, doesn't mean she is the only person in the GW world that can be associated with that item. Lore consistency? No, how about red herring. It throws the players off without being entirely impossible or even implausible. It doesn't take a huge stretch of imagination to come up with how it got there.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

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Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

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Quote:
Originally Posted by mazey vorstagg
We now know from the BMP that Gwen never went to Elona, she just escaped the Charr in Ascalon and met up with the ebon vanguard in far shiverpeaks pretty quickly.

So, why is there a preserved iris flower in a chest on the Barbarous shore?

Was it just a design team lore inconsistency, or is something greater at work here?
Barbarous Shore the chest floats across oceans and reach Elona, Its a far cry for help from Gwen she knew we going to find it because she knew we will open any un-open chest hoping for gold drop in them... and it does bring you to one of the most beautiful off hand the Rose Focus.

Sheena Inverse

Sheena Inverse

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

Thats for me to know... and for you.../stab

[Myth]

E/Mo

I have insider information, it was put there just to see how long it took someone to notice and make a thread about it :P *sarcasm*

But seriously, it has nothing to do with gwen just because you gave them to her in pre. They are all over the place, and theres no need for a direct connection to gwen. However if it makes you fell better to think there is, then think it. Who knows maybe it was put there for a quest that was never completed, or will be added later.

My bet is its just there to screw with your head.

etain

etain

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Drifters Sanctum [KoBD]

R/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
Barbarous Shore the chest floats across oceans and reach Elona, Its a far cry for help from Gwen she knew we going to find it because she knew we will open any un-open chest hoping for gold drop in them... and it does bring you to one of the most beautiful off hand the Rose Focus.
I think it was sent down a river/ocean or something as well.

Vicks

Vicks

Academy Page

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RIGHT HERE! —›•

Flaming Turtles

W/E

I ran around pre-searing gathering a ton of Red Iris flowers, then went to Elona and dumped it in that chest when you weren't looking.

Rabid Fury

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2007

Oracles of Oblivion

W/Mo

I agree with Mazey Red Iris flowers were a game symbol thing put in the game as something for Gwen. It wouldn't make 'Game' since if they it were just someone else who liked them. After all their only use in the game is for Gwen.

Steps_Descending

Steps_Descending

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

IN my pocket plane. Obviously!

Little Tom's Pocket Plane [THom]

Me/Mo

I hate to take that tone but...

Maybe just a eye catch from the devs to remind us that Gwen was still there somewhere?

mrmango

mrmango

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Join Date: Oct 2006

Southern California

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Me/Rt

Rofl no Steps. It's obviously impossible for her to have been in Elona.

awiedman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

TN

We Would Like To Play [Wii]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Operative 14
Perhaps they were left by that weirdo/stalkerish assassin guy in the Char territories in GW:EN? He looks like an Ascalonian to me, and I think he's supposed to be one. He's traveled all over the place as well, so it's not entirely unpluasible that he might have visited that corner of Elona.
this is entirely possible.

"Vael also claims to be a veteran of the Tengu Wars in Cantha and has been to Vabbi, placing him on three different continents."

"Your technique stinks worse than the Kodash Bazaar at high noon."

"...so then the Crimson Skull pirate says, 'That's no plague creature, that's my wife'."

"In Vabbi, I was ambushed by six of them! They wielded blunt wooden sticks and were hissing at me about overdue fines. Bandits? Oh, no. These were library envoys."

source guildwiki Vael

Pvp4lyfe

Pvp4lyfe

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mafia Of Annhilation

D/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Operative 14
Perhaps they were left by that weirdo/stalkerish assassin guy in the Char territories in GW:EN? He looks like an Ascalonian to me, and I think he's supposed to be one. He's traveled all over the place as well, so it's not entirely unpluasible that he might have visited that corner of Elona.
dude that guy scares the crap out of me i pi$sed myself wen he appeared.