D/Any Onslaught Build

Bassu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Cracow, Poland.

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Today I was messing with my Derv's elites and this is what I came up with (I know it's nothing new but since the skills synergy very well I've decided to post this setup here).

D/Any

Scythe Mastery: 11+2
Wind Prayers: 8+1
Mysticism: 11+1

[skill]Lyssa's Assault[/skill]
[skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill]
[skill]Chilling Victory[/skill]
[skill]Attacker's Insight[/skill]
[skill]Onslaught[/skill]
[skill]Heart of Fury[/skill]
Great Dwarf Armor
[skill]Mystic Twister[/skill] / [skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

This is a fun build to play with in PvE. I've been testing it on HM and it was doing very nicely so I can assume it will do the job in NM as well. Basically it has a huge damage potential. You cast GDA, then Attacker's Insight, then Onslaught and finally Heart of Fury. Next, you use your 3 attacks skills and you should have max energy after it. Your finishing move should be Mystic Twister, of course assuming that your target is not dead already.
Some may say that downside of this build is lack of self-healing, but IMO in PvE you should stick to your class' task only - which in case of dervishes is dealing huge amount of damage. But if you want more defense - go with Mystic Vigor/Natural Healing/Dwayna's Touch instead of Mystic Twister.
I think that this build also has a PvP potential, thinking chiefly about AB. Instead of GDA get yourself a self-heal, and maybe a running skill instead of Mystic Twister - everything up to you.

For this build I'm using Zealous Scythe of Enchanting, but you may use Vampiric/Sundering Scythe of Enchanting too.
Radiant on chest, Survivour on the rest.

Hope some of you guys will have fun while using this build,
Cheers

Terraban

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Onslaught fails as an elite.
Therefore, any build with Onslaught as the elite also fails.

Sirius-NZ

Sirius-NZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bellevue, WA (I know ... but I moved out of NZ)

Xen of Onslaught

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Onslaught would be good if it were about 50% rather than 25% :/ As it stands, it's really only that useful for rangers with expensive attacks.

Turtle222

Turtle222

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

:D:D

D/W

i see what you are doing, but...i dont think onslaught is such a good idea.

nice try though

i only wish OS was 50% as the above guy said

Valeria

Valeria

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Germany

PaRe

W/

Quote:
Onslaught fails as an elite.
Therefore, any build with Onslaught as the elite also fails every skill may be useful you just need to find out how. Maybe not for a derv but i guess there are good onslaught builds

Terraban

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Valeria
every skill may be useful you just need to find out how. If only this was true....

GourangaPizza

GourangaPizza

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

R/W

For PvE, Eternal Aura overshadows Onslaught real bad.

Terraban

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by GourangaPizza
For PvE, Eternal Aura overshadows Onslaught real bad. This also makes little sense.

I need to make a fail sticker for this thread I think.

WarKaster

WarKaster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Los Angeles

SlingBlades

D/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terraban
This also makes little sense.

I need to make a fail sticker for this thread I think. If you notice other people's they had something constructive to say..see the difference between those posts and your posts??

Now, on a personal level I don't like Wind Prayers at all. I find most the skills underpowered but thats just me. I prefer to spec in to Myst. Scythe then Earth prayers for things like Conviction, or EDA.

But if this build works for you and your play style go for it man. Don't listen to Terraban. Sounds like he or she (maybe both you never know now a days) /fails at life.

boarderx

boarderx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

[PIG]

onslaught isnt bad, i kinda like it but there are other skills i find more effective so i dont really use it much at all

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

Onslaught isnt bad. I kinda like it even in RA and AB

Psyko

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

The Shinobi Empire [TSE]

i use a much similar build actually, and very much like it. Yes it does function... id say decently in AB (was farming luxon rep for another character and didnt have a better build to use)

Personally i would agree that it COULD be made a little better... but then cant everything?

Darkside

Darkside

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Chantry of Secrets

[Angl]

D/

After seeing this post I tried this build with a little tweaking. It works alright but it's not better then what I usually run. Still it's nice to see the wind prayer line getting some use.

Captain Marvel

Captain Marvel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

What about dropping mysticism a bit and replacing HoF with Whirling Charge? If you are popping up Wind prayers, might as well use it.

GourangaPizza

GourangaPizza

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

R/W

^ And replace Mystic Twister with Aura of Holy Might

Psyko

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

The Shinobi Empire [TSE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Marvel
What about dropping mysticism a bit and replacing HoF with Whirling Charge? If you are popping up Wind prayers, might as well use it. because even at my 10 pts in wind prayers it only lasts half the recharge time (10/20secs). Where as at 12 myst HoF lasts for 17/30 secs, theoretically you get more from HoF, not to mention that nifty set them on fire if they arent already dead yet side effect from HoF. That and HoF is an enchant, and while the OP doesnt use it, i have myst regen in my build, and the extra ench adds to the regen.

however it is true that if you wanted a whole 12 points in WPs then Whirling Charge would work better, but that is then gimping the energy and health return from mysticism, and using this build im gonna say more often than not you need the energy return >.<



and darkside, what build do you usually run? Im interested in seeing better builds, to see what i can do to make mine better

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

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Take both HoF and Whirling charge. You have a perma IAS that way.

Psyko

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

The Shinobi Empire [TSE]

well of course there always is that option

Darkside

Darkside

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Chantry of Secrets

[Angl]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyko
and darkside, what build do you usually run? Im interested in seeing better builds, to see what i can do to make mine better This is the wind build I tried based off the original posters idea.

D/Any

Scythe Mastery: 12+1+1 (14)
Wind Prayers: 12+1 (13)
Mysticism: 3

[skill]Great Dwarf Armor[/skill]
[skill]Onslaught[/skill]
[skill]Attacker's Insight[/skill]
[skill]Whirling Charge[/skill]
[skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill]
[skill]Eremite's Attack[/skill]
[skill]Victorious Sweep[/skill]
[skill]Mystic Twister[/skill]

Adding more points into wind prayers makes whirling charge last 13/20 seconds so that's a little better then Heart of Fury and maximizes the effectiveness of the other wind prayer skills that your using. Build still needs more tweaks and one thing I noticed is that Mystic Twister is pretty crappy. Might as well put in some other scythe attack because unless the creature is/are vulnerable to cold the damage is not that impressive.

Here's the build I generally run

D/W

Scythe Mastery: 11+1+1 (13)
Earth Prayers: 8
Mysticism: 11+1 (12)

[skill]Great Dwarf Armor[/skill]
[skill]Avatar of Lyssa[/skill]
[skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill]
[skill]Victorious Sweep[/skill]
[skill]Wild Blow[/skill]
[skill]Aura of Holy Might[/skill]
[skill]Heart of Fury[/skill]
[skill]Eternal Aura/skill]

It's a pretty well rounded build...and has worked pretty well for me. Great dwarf armor for added armor and a little boost to health, Avatar of Lyssa for the extra energy and damage to foes activating skills, mystic regen for some healing, Victorious sweep for some more healing, wild blow for annoying stances, Aura of Holy Might + Heart of Fury for fast damage, Eternal Aura to keep up my Avatar and the Area damage is pretty nice as well.

Psyko

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

The Shinobi Empire [TSE]

ahh, thank you very much

now, with the onslaught build, did you have any problems using the skills as the recharged? iow was energy a problem?

Darkside

Darkside

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Chantry of Secrets

[Angl]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyko
ahh, thank you very much

now, with the onslaught build, did you have any problems using the skills as the recharged? iow was energy a problem? Didn't seem like energy was a problem but I was fighting small mobs I never ended up in any extended battles.

Psyko

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

The Shinobi Empire [TSE]

oh, thats right, your build doesnt have as many enchants to cast... i go a bit heavier on the defense and end up with a few higher energy enchs.