Elite tomes what are they really good for?

achiles the mermedon

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/Mo

Probably silly question, but what are the elite tomes for?
How are they used? I looked in wiki it says nothing about what they are good for just what they are.

Dante the Warlord

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/R

Elite tomes are great because you can get elite skills without working hard for it. AKA get on buy an elite skill from a balthazar priest, boom you have an elite skill, regardless of where its found

free_fall

free_fall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Let's say you have a ranger, for example, who has finished the game, capping a lot of skills along the way. Now you create a new ranger. You can use the Elite tomes you give your new lvl 2 ranger Barrage, say, a skill he normally wouldn't be able to get until much later in the game.

You can also use both regular and Elite tomes to get skills from the other campaigns than the one you've started in before you are able to travel to those areas.

TheRaven

TheRaven

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Virginia

Spirit of Elisha

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Elite tomes are great for making money.

Type: "WTS Elite Monk Tome 10k" in LA for a few minutes and soon you have the cash needed to buy 10 signet of captures.

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRaven
Elite tomes are great for making money.

Type: "WTS Elite Monk Tome 10k" in LA for a few minutes and soon you have the cash needed to buy 10 signet of captures.
Yup they have a good value

Another Felldspar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Alchemy Incorporated

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRaven
Elite tomes are great for making money.

Type: "WTS Elite Monk Tome 10k" in LA for a few minutes and soon you have the cash needed to buy 10 signet of captures.
True that, but they are also great time savers if you want to use them instead of selling them. Say you have a killer idea for a mesmer build, but it requires the elite skill Fevered Dreams... Fevered Dreams is found on a boss with a spawn point at the back of the next to the last mission in Prophecies. To make it even more difficult that boss shares a spawn point with other bosses so he may or may not be present after you have done more than 1/2 the mission. Instead of spending that hour checking to see if the boss has bothered to show or not you can use an Elite tome and have the skill ready to go without ever setting foot on the Fire Islands. It's handy. And depending on the elite involved you might very well be able to earn the money required to buy the tome in the amount of time you would spend capping the skill. It's just another option, another way of acquiring a skill for a PvE character.

BladeDVD

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Hawaii

Clan Of Elders

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Unless you like to PVP (because you can use the Balthazar Faction from PVP to unlock elite skills on your account) Elite Tomes are really only useful for players who have multiple characters.

The idea is that if another character on your account has capped an elite (or you have used your Balth. Faction to unlock the elite skill at the Balth. rewards guy), then any other character on your account can then use the elite tome to learn that skill.

For example, in Ayelet Feldspar's example, you either have to use Balthazar Faction to unlock Fevered Dreams first, or another character on your account must have already capped it.

These things would be very useful for me, for example, because I have capped every elite in the game on one character on one of my accounts for the Skill Hunter title. Now any character I create (or already have) can learn any elite in the game through the use of an elite skill tome. This can be useful if you want to try a new build, or if you are creating a new character (as already mentioned.)

achiles the mermedon

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/Mo

So are they just for one use or multiple?
Because realistically why would you pay 10k if it is a skill you can just cap for 1k plus a skill point.

Shaz

Shaz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS]

One use per Tome. Because it save you time, as said earlier, if you haven't reach that part of the game yet to cap it, or some of the more time consuming cap.

Crimson Flame

Crimson Flame

Better Than Arkantos

Join Date: Apr 2007

ONOES I iz playing WoW

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I think they're pretty useful because, as was said before, sometimes you don't want to wait until later in the game to get one. For example, I just started an assassin, and I wanted to get Moebius Strike, but I didn't want to have to get 10k Kurzick faction, so I spent about an hour on Zaishen Challenge and worked up my faction. It's a lot easier than going through the storyline sometimes.

Cammy

Cammy

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WA

zulu

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They are good for getting Eviscerate.

CyberMesh0

CyberMesh0

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by achiles the mermedon
So are they just for one use or multiple?
Because realistically why would you pay 10k if it is a skill you can just cap for 1k plus a skill point.
Never underestimate the power of laziness/convenience.

Bowstring Badass

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...

Purple Lingerie - :D

I sell them mainly. Why buy something 10x the value of it when you can go cap it and have something to do lol. Only time I really use them is if I find it.

kratimas

kratimas

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Order of the Setting Sun

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Quote:
Originally Posted by achiles the mermedon
Because realistically why would you pay 10k if it is a skill you can just cap for 1k plus a skill point.
In most cases you are correct.

Here is an example I can give you to hopefully help explain 1 good use. I created a Rit to do nothing but farm with. I of course need VwK. I leveled the Rit up through the starter island then went to the main land and gained level 20 quickly. I am now ready to farm.

Oh wait I still need VwK.

Look it up on Wiki and find it can be capped in Mourning Veil Falls or Rhea's Crater. This is pretty far into the game and I really don't want to waste all of that time getting to either one of these places.

However my ranger has been to both , so I change my secondary to Rit, grab a cap sig and in less then 15 minutes I have capped VwK on my Ranger. I then buy a Elite Rit Tome for 8k (Yes I was very lucky on that) and my Rit now has VwK as well.

So, to make a short story long I have now made over 250k on my 8k investment of an elite tome.

Hope that helps,

Krat

viens87

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Riga

SCAR

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elite tomes r for lazy players

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

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Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by viens87
elite tomes r for lazy players
I'm with you. I capped over 70 elites in one two day weekend. You can do it if I can!

杀TanK杀

杀TanK杀

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

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And you played for how long?

Say your a new 55, you can use this tome to get SoJ, instead of a 4k droks run, a 4k granite run, then an hour run to the boss...
Or you can spend many hours completing the game..
But my monk is only used for 55 and dusnt even have beacons perch

Convenience imo

Shadow_7

Shadow_7

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Raiders of Gilead

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Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberMesh0
Never underestimate the power of laziness/convenience.
Very true. lol

jon0592

jon0592

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

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I only use it for elites late in the game if I'm not that far.

When I started my monk, I did not use an {E} tome for ZB, Glimmer, LoD.

viens87

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Riga

SCAR

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u can make 55 from elona , taxi to doks , get LA .. run droks , cap 2-3 elite skills buy grim -50 .. and u rdy

but .. the 55 not the fast money earning .. and other chars 2 ..
farming is like skill caping little boring


and i got to my mesmer legendary skill tittle
im not lazy i got 10 tittles for my mesmer
then if any can say mesmers r bad , they fail ..
my mesmer is like a ninja in 90'

viens87

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Riga

SCAR

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Quote:
Originally Posted by 杀TanK杀
And you played for how long?

Say your a new 55, you can use this tome to get SoJ, instead of a 4k droks run, a 4k granite run, then an hour run to the boss...
Or you can spend many hours completing the game..
But my monk is only used for 55 and dusnt even have beacons perch

Convenience imo

u can get legendary skill caper in a week .. boring place is to cap prophecies , becaus skills ar randomly ..

only problem for me on these days be the money for signets .. now i dont need it for future only sometimes for other chars

but i dont wana do tittles on my other chars .. i dont need it ..

Hengis

Hengis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

London

Better Than Life (BTL)

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I finally got round to doing doing the Skill Hunter titles over the last week.

In the last week I went from having under 100 skills capped, to Legendary Skill Hunter.

The vast majority of caps are easy but one or two of the Prophecies ones are just downright frustrating.

In getting the title I used two Elite tomes. One for a mesmer boss that failed to spawn several times in a row in Hell's Precipice, I think the skill was Panic?, and I used one for Maw the Mountain Heart.

To me this is what Elite tomes are good for :-)

N E D M

N E D M

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Officer's Club

Gameamp Guides [AMP]

>50% of monk elite tomes = [skill]Shield of Judgment[/skill]
>50% of assassin elite tomes = [skill]shadow form[/skill]
Elite tomes are great for late game skills, or those obsure /hard cap skills

Quaker

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

Quote:
Originally Posted by viens87
elite tomes r for lazy players
Well, aren't we just so smug in our moral highground.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Raenef
I capped over 70 elites in one two day weekend. You can do it if I can!
Yes, but I'll bet your character had already been to all of the areas you needed to map to.


I think the OP was simply wondering what the Tomes were good for, not wanting a lecture on laziness.

(Oh, and consider this - the wheel was invented by lazy people. The energetic people were happy just to carry stuff around.)

EmptySkull

EmptySkull

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Join Date: Jul 2006

KaoS League

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I think they are great. and a reward for some. I have Legendary Skill Hunter on one of my characters. Now if I want a Elite for another and don't want to wait I can use one that I got from drops or buy one. Doesn't mean you're lazy if you use one.

visitor

visitor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Kronos HQ

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They are good for the lazy people but what about people like me:

I don´t have enough patience to zaishen 3k faction. Thats just sad

strcpy

strcpy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

One of Many [ONE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by visitor
They are good for the lazy people but what about people like me:

I don´t have enough patience to zaishen 3k faction. Thats just sad
For you have the skill unlock packs in the online store.

viens87

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Riga

SCAR

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Quote:
Originally Posted by N E D M
>50% of monk elite tomes = [skill]Shield of Judgment[/skill]
>50% of assassin elite tomes = [skill]shadow form[/skill]
Elite tomes are great for late game skills, or those obsure /hard cap skills


the shadow for mr wery easy caping skill ..

the SoJ .. yea its boring little .. mineral spring is far away from droks ..

DarkFlame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ascalon

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Quote:
Originally Posted by viens87
elite tomes r for lazy players
Lazy players do not have 10k to throw around at will.

Elite tomes are simply convenient for players who have multiple characters at different stages in the game. They allow such players to get the skills they want for whatever new build they want to use, when they want.

viens87

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Riga

SCAR

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkFlame
Lazy players do not have 10k to throw around at will.

Elite tomes are simply convenient for players who have multiple characters at different stages in the game. They allow such players to get the skills they want for whatever new build they want to use, when they want.

u know .. i dont have a money like others, thats first .. second my storage allways r 0

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

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Moebius Strike is often tomed as well.