Argh.. It seems a waste..

I don't know if anyone feels the same, but I really want to play Guild Wars again properly.. But it just feels when GW2 is released I will obviously, like the fair majority, will go over to GW2 - which makes me feel like playing GW1 at the moment is really pointless and it's not going to be any meaningful or achieve anything knowing when I start GW2 it's going to get me nothing...

Surely ArenaNet can think of a few more things we could maybe pass over or some special effect/item(s)/something(!?) that we could work for over the next 2 years that would want to make us feel like were playing the next 2 years for a reason.. So when GW2 is released, we worked for something exclusively - obviously not some item(s)/effects that give a huge advantage over new players - but just something! To make playing GW1 over the next 2 years worthwhile and something a bit more to go for other than Hall of Monuments...

Anyone else agree or have any input, suggestions or ideas to put forth to this?


Note: Not sure if this goes into Sardelac Sanitarium but what the hell...

I haven't worked for anything in the game, I play for fun and things I get are part of the fun. When it becomes work then I will to quit.

I never understand threads like this. Why should you need something to carry over to GW2 to make it worthy to play through the original again?

If you enjoy Guild Wars, then isnt that enough reason to make it worth playing? To me it definitely doesnt feel like a waste because i play the game because i actually enjoy playing it, not so i can obtain some elite items.

A very good and fair point Risky Ranger.. I do play for fun but right now I want to play for fun but feel like I'm playing for 'something' that is going to help or gain me something in GW2, but that's just me...

I can't really find anything these days in GW to keep myself entertained and play in a fun manner.. Now you may say "don't play" or "quit" then.. But the fact is I've had and played Guild Wars since the beginning, my account is over 30+ months old and I just want to carry on being the 'veteran' but have something to do.

Farming is tedious and boring.. AB is full of idiots, GvG seems lacking something, and there's no real guild I can find that is active and into it all that is based in the UK were I can feel at home and friendly.. PvP just seems to be all the same builds run everywhere, or no one will accept you unless your r3/6/9 whatever...

You realize there are a lot of other games out there, right?

And that GW has no subscription fees?

Just checking.

Do what I do, take some time off the game, and if you return to it, so be it, if not, um, well, again, its a game. Games are meant to be fun.

Unless you are a gold farmer... which means... OMG, HES A GOLD FARMER, OVER HERE GOLD FARMER QUICK QUICK BAN BAN! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!

Just enjoy the game for what the game is in itself. Do not think about a future for you will only be creating hopes for things that may or may not come.

You originally got the game and didn't even know that there was going to be a Part 2 or even a BMP, you got the game because you wanted to have fun. Go ahead, keep having it

My point is, do not think about the future, take one step at a time. Stop worrying about a second part you do not have, live the one that you have.

I don't "play" GW anymore I may log in for 5 minutes to talk to people I've met but other than that I play Assassin's Creed, Guitar Hero III, Call of Duty 4, Baldur's Gate (The original saga) <--oh yeah old school, Diablo 2, Oblivion, etc...

If a games stops being fun then stop playing it especially if you aren't out any money for quiting. It will always be there should you want to go back.

Eh... it's a game. Get over it.

If you want a sense of achievement play real life.

i dont understand why everyone has such a sense of doom, like everything were doing now is pointless. it's a game.

QFT.

Games should be fun and not necessarily achievement based.

Personally, the whole GW2 thing hasn't changed how I play/enjoy GW at all, with the exception of settling on armor rather than hoping new styles will come out lol.

I enjoy the game...period. HoM for me is just a pretty display. I don't worry what will/will not get passed or rewarded in GW2. I'll cross that bridge when it comes out, no point worrying now. My chars aren't "pointless" somehow because of GW2...They represent 2+ years of fun

Think you have to ask why did you play before GW2 was announced.

That said I kinda understand. So go play something else for a while and see if you miss it, I know I did and will do once something worth playing is released.

As already stated - it`s just a game, not a job, you don`t have to play it. It`s just something to do if you enjoy it, if you don`t then stop and try something else.

Btw I think the HoM is a cool idea, at least it`s something and much better than nothing, whatever the something might be.

If you play games for fun, play guild wars.

If you play games because you have a misguided sense of accomplishment and feel that you need to be congratulated by people you don't know on the internet for a piece of bling attached to an online character, you need to get a life.

In fact, all of your accomplishments are completely useless when you die, so why bother doing anything in your life?

So if you're not playing GW for fun, why are you playing it?

And also: Damn, I love this new avatar. Might turn it into a red Spy, though.

its going to be another year at least before gw2 goes beta, thats another year you can play gw1.....
I am NOT going over to gw2 so I see no problem continuing on playing gw1 until the turn the servers off (or another version of windows comes out that it can not be played on).
If you are still wondering, try playing new characters, have you played every profession----and gotten titles on them all? Have you tried all the combos of those.....(I have 16 characters that I play, I wont be getting bored and if I do I start another one where I hadnt started one before, I have characters in all parts of all chapters so there is always something to do).
I see no waste.....

but real life doesn't drop gold... u have to work for it. no fun at all

Real life farming is called mugging

I agree with the OP, it would be nice to have some more goals, i dont think he was saying that he hates playing and only does so to get ingame achievements, i think he was saying that attaining the achievements is fun, which i think is the core to any MMO.

I'm not going to bother with GW2 because it will all be meaningless when GW3 is released.

/end sarcasm

Well... farming gold in game means you have to work for it.

I suppose it's kind of similar.

That's my favourite argument right there.

Just play what you have now, GW2 won't be out in a while

Huh?

KANE

Twelve freakin characters ftl.

Because it was for fun and I didn't know 2 would be released and everything we do on GW will count for nothing other than a pretty HoM display.. Because now I know I will go over to GW2 and forget about it if it lives up to it's hyped up self already that ANet blags about what it's going to feature... But I want to keep playing GW1 with a sense of accomplimshment and with something to do, something that is fun...


I didn't say that? I said the exact opposite..


People say X, Y and Z but will do the opposite.. People say they will keep playing GW1 and ignore GW2, but I can probably guarantee that they will just say they will 'give it a go', then they will get hooked and forget about GW1. It's human nature, there in denial at first and want to act all this and that, playing the elitist veteran...


That's my point proven, never knew 2 was going to be released - quite happy and content with GW1, but knowing they will stop updating it and adding anything major to it now when 2 is released, it's gonna be a bit naff...


Thankyou, I don't "hate" playing, I do enjoy playing to an extent and you read my post in a more depth and thought a bit more than the majority who did and just thought it was flame bait. Attaining the achievements in a fun manner would be great, and more of them, than just the few at the moment...


Exactly.. People are in denial, you will eventually by GW2 is released become bored because ArenaNet won't release anymore major updates to keep you entertained, you won't have anything fun to play for unless your a PvP/GvG fanatic and can keep up with that all the time...


Wow.. Getting the same titles on a buncha characters? How tedious and boring would that be? Completing the same game about 8-16 times repeatedly and exploring every milimetre of the world, or capturing different profession elites.. For what? I feel no sense of accomplishment, it isn't really rewarding.. ArenaNet need to make more events/activities/locations were you can do something and feel a sense of accomplimshment, were it's fun - and if there is rewards - that there something good.. You actually 'get' something from it, if anything is needed in the first place! If it's fun, I don't expect a reward...


This is another type of the expected posts I was wanting to help encourage and give me another way of thinking about it all.. Very helpful, and yes that is my point - I didn't know there was going to be a second Guild Wars when I got the game when it was released because I thought I'd be going for more than 2/3'ish years..


Yeah, you can say 2/3 years of fun was worth it - of course it was, but I want to keep playing that same game.. Yeah every game has it's ends, but GW1 has so much potential, ANet just can't be bothered to try 'fix' it or do anything about it.. So what do they do instead? F* it. Let's revamp the whole game, GUILD WARS 2!..

they said the present game engine *would not allow* them to make the huge improvements they wanted to make.

very big difference

and so called meaning?

i play for the fun of it not to impress other onscreen pixils with what i have *accomplished*

Sort of the same situation here.
I was thinking of getting additional character slots to play around with some new characters. Then GW2 was announced - and from that moment on I figured 10 slots is more then enough. If I want to play something new - I just delete an old character.
With the announcement of GW2 - GW just got hit with a very real expiry date. One knows that one will not be able to transfer the characters to GW2 - so it makes little sense to even keep them around if they are just taking up space.
Plus it made me change my mind about getting GWEN. I still have fun in the 3 chapters - so getting it just feels like wasting the 40€.

Question:

Whats the difference to the customer between a new Chapter for Guild Wars, or a whole new Guild Wars 2?

If you want an auction house, jumping, swimming, new races, etc., then why won't you like GW2?

I think that there is already an awful lot to do in GW. Especially considering how friendly the game is toward creating alts.

Also, it does sound like it's time for a break. I find that if a take a couple weeks away and play Halo, or I don't know - go outside, that the game feels fresh and fun again.

Bollocks. It's an excuse so you don't complain about them revamping the game basically, the Guild Wars engine is very capable, we've seen the things it can do.. If there only revamping the game for graphics, so be it..

I really am not too fussed but I'm personally, highly convinced they just can't be bothered to fix and play with the current GW1.

As for the fun part of not playing to impress etc.. Where the hell did you get that idea from? Impress other onscreen pixels? No, no.. I barely play with other players other than helping guildies out.. PUGs are a buncha idiots, I have no one to impress, I just wanted something that would 'benefit', or something 'fun'. Stop taking things out of context and re-wording them to your own liking as flame bait.

That's all this forum has become, flame baits.. Everyone is addicted to flaming, wish the GWG community was how it used to be too.. Young, curious and inexperienced (because we were all new!) Guild Wars players still adventuring the lands of the GW world.. Happily discussing how the game is, and what it's like, some nice new builds...

But yeah; overall I'm not dissing the idea of Guild Wars 2, in a way I personally am looking forward too and I'm sure I'll love it, just impatient I guess as I want to get going.. Just feels playing GW1 won't do much for me, even for a fun manner, what is there..?

Yeah, that's some more fair points proven - it doesn't feel like it's worth it does it..?

I never said I wouldn't like GW2? Infact I'm whole-heartedly looking forward to playing Guild Wars 2 and I can't wait! What I'm saying is if you can read; is that I just want something more fun to do within GW and feel it'll be wasted if ArenaNet just completely abandon GW1 and don't release anything new, fun or a major event/location to keep it interesting.

Also, the way you just described GW2, 'auction house, jumping, swimming, new races, etc'.. Why not just say; WELCOME TO WOW!

I played GW for a year and half when it came out.. Had almost a year break on and off, becoming less and less things that are fun and interesting to do.. I haven't played properly for way too long now...

What I don't get about this sort of thread.. and sorry OP, not trying to pick on you here, but why is it pointless to play if you can't drag all your characters, titles, and possessions to GW2? What I'm getting at is that, for instance, Starcraft 2 is in the making, but does that have any real bearing on the people that are still enjoying the original SC? I'd think not. Sure this is a rpg, but it's still the same sort of concept. Why does the knowledge that a sequel is coming out in the future make playing the original any less fun than it was before when the sequel is still years away?

Guild Wars does not gain immunity from the fate of other games, where it will be over shadowed by newer games that will better draw in the consumers.

On that note, I don't see how playing a game can be pointless because a new one will come out. I fail to see how it wasn't as pointless in the first place as you take no more gain from it even before a sequal is announced..