economy droped?

I suppose this the "Economy is dead" thread of the week. Brought to you by GWG community, once a week, since the launch.

Player based economies change. Static economies don't. One of them is boring - guess which.

Funny how you come whine about economy dropping and are still trying to fix a low price for the keys ...
I just sold 60 keys for 3k each and i got so much demand it feels as i got robbed.

A few [rawr] guildies got some hot stuff:

1. q9 Eternal Blade
2. q9 Eternal Shield (COMMAND!!)
3. q9 Elemental Sword (so so still)

Now here is the catch...IT TOOK 200+ KEYS TO FINALLY GET SOMETHING GOOD! Seriously, it isn't going to effect much except add some excitement, fun, and more rewards for PvP.

there can't be an economy be destroyed, that already is totally destroyed >.>

Or do you call prices of like 6000 Platin or so for certain very rare pets normal ?
or do you call prices of like 2000 platin for certain perfect weapons normal ?

I don't ..I call that inflation high 3...

I still see for 2 and a half years not the reason ingame, why Armors get customized and are unsellable ...
I see no problem in it, why players shouldn#t sell armors, which they got dropped...

this way players would receive a way to get some money and could sell them at slightly lower prices, then the NPC's ...

Then..more stuff like colors and upgrades need fixed NPC prices, espcially colors need fixed prices, can't be, that colors like black cost over 5P, while other colors cost only 100g

Player based economies are ever crap, because they result sooner or later ever in inflation ... best economy for a MMORPG is a npc economy with only fixed prices...because then the price of buying and selling will stay ever the same, regardless of how much a thing is in current, or not

Problem is i dont see much the purpose in this :
- pure pvp ppl dont care much about making gold or dropping skill tomes, booze or candies
- pure pve ppl get pissed coz they cant farm these keys and will say it gives an unfair advantage to pvpers
- and we still have stacks of useless tournament tokens in our storage
- and where is the logic ? make pve ppl pvp more or vice versa ? I'm confused
Oh I forgot, Anet isnt really about logic aint it...

maybe at some point, having too much tournament tokens will unlock an additionnal char slot just to carry them.

Wake up It is always good to get all the facts about something first.

lol

NO reward from opening DOES NOT COUNT FOR treasure hunter.
Very small chance of a Uber rare. Mostly Tomes,golds,sweets,booze.
cost 5k balth or 5 reward points this is very High for anyone who is not UAX (unlocked everything)
Not 1 thing to worrie about with this chest it is ment for the UAX players who have to many tourney tokens and no use for the faction they get.

I for 1 am very happy they put this in it is about time. What to do with the stacks of toruney tokes tho?

- Oh I get it now! When you can't sell common stuff for 100K + ectos then there has to be something wrong with economy! Or could it be that instead of farming their butts off of some ectos, players just go get what they want from bosses? Which of these is again healthy state of economy?

Lol maybe if you would get the Real price on that q11 reaver you could sell it.
A q11 is worthless in nearly everyones eyes.
q10 is normaly half to 2/3 the price of q9.

Sure, more rare items will lower the prices of those items. 20/20 mods, +30 mods, -5/20% mods, etc. all cost a large amount of money a while ago. Now, those items are more common, and sell for much less. THIS IS GOOD. People who don't play a lot, and don't have loads of money laying around can afford good equipment. The only things that are not effected by this shift in the economy are crafter weapons and armor. More black dye dropping would mean black dye costs less. More Superior Vigor means it costs less. If you need those things, you are glad they cost less.

Now, if you are selling, and are mad that you can't get 100k+ecto for stuff anymore, consider the other side of it. What are you planning to use that money you make for? Buy a new weapon that has a rare skin? If so, guess what, that price has probably dropped as well, and now you don't need as much money anyway. The change didn't effect you. Want FoW armor? Guess what, ecto/shard prices have dropped, and it isn't as expensive as it once was. Yes, there will still be items that cost a LOT of money. Making that money will not be as easy. However, the common things, which the average player wants, can be obtained without farming for hours a day, weeks on end.

This is good for the average player, and except for a few (very few) items, the change makes no difference to the hard core player.

Basically, if people weren't PvPing to get keys for the Zashian Chest, people would be PvEing and get gold items anyway in the time it took them to get 5k bathazar faction.

Totally agreed. It's good if the average player can afford max mods and such. The rare stuff will still be rare and 1 new chest won't destroy anything. Besides, I never really understood the point of hoarding gold. It's for spending, people!

if chest running were the game most players wouldnt bother with it.

i play the game not waste gold on chests which are intended to be a gold sink.

The thing the pumps me the most is that brulee will go down in price and that will make easier sweet too for me woot!

Screenshot of the Eternals please. I'm not very quick to believe all that.

I believe that this price drop will NOT last for very long. Because of the ridiculous amount of keys it takes to get something good, combined with the amount of points/faction everyone had stored up, it is just an initial flux. Soon, after PVE'rs realize that it is not worth it to buy the keys on the 1/10,000 chance that they will get something worthwhile. PVP'rs with full UAX will continue to purchase them, but hey, PVP'rs deserve rewards too right? There is a panic about this supposed HUGE infulx of rares into the economy right now. Consequently it is a buyer's market. Buy now!

The economy wont be affected because to get something good from the zaishen chest, it would take a lot more time and grind to earn the faction for the keys required then it would take to buy a lockpick at the merchant.

i got a q9 eternal blade from zaishen chest last night. On my second key :X
i will post a screenshot of the sword once i get on to gw, dont have it installed on this computer.


Edit:

makes me DAMN MAD!

Cant sell my req9 inscri crystalline for 100k+200e now!

I hate you zaishen chest!

Pounds got it, I think she put it up for sale.

I thnk M Flo from DeeR said he got one too.

I think the chest is balanced about right.
1) Gives me something to spend faction on. been capped for months
2) Has just enough chance of something good to make it interesting
3) Drops are crap often enough to avoid making it silly.