Fronis Irontoe's Lair - New Survivor Farm?

Adam144

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

Castleford, England

None

E/

Ok I was just looking for a really fast way to level my dervish from 14 to 20 and remembered the Dwarven Boxing.

Now, I coupled this with a scroll of the lightbringer and I went from level 14 to 20 in 3 runs. I was getting around 360xp per kill at level 19, and that's a lot of XP to say how many enemies there are in there.

The only problem I can see is if you have a slow finger you might not be able to get up in time - but that shou;dn't be a problem if you're good with dwarven boxing. The only time I ever get knocked out in that dungeon is at the end when the enslaved ettin owns me.

Anyway, just throwing this out there, and someone's probably already discovered it but bleh.

Good luck to all you survivors

Snoes

Snoes

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Belgium

Made a legendary survivor a while ago there.
Did it in 8 hrs.

Adam144

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

Castleford, England

None

E/

It's great, I'm going to do that with all my chars that I create from now on

Randvek

Randvek

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Rise From the Ashes [phnx]

W/

I got Legendary Survivor there in probably 6 or 7 hours. The first few hours were pretty slow as I was being careful. Towards the end, on hard mode with scrolls, the exp gain is insane. I doubt anything in all of GW can beat it.

Solus Spartan

Solus Spartan

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2007

Australia

[Lawl]

Mo/

The new challenge is, CAN YOU SURVIVE TILL LVL 10! After that, free run to 20 & beyond.

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

just eat a pumpkin pie in HM and this dungeon is easy... as pie
it aint hard at all anyway, but with the +25%s, it's a joke ^^

Mickey

Mickey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Eternal Insight

D/

I am so bored with repeating myself.

Kilroy Stonekin's Survivor Guide: Now in Hard Mode!

What you need: Rampager's Scrolls

What is optional: Fully modded Thunderfist's Brass Knuckles, A/ or /A and 12 dagger mastery. The daggers should be modded 15^50, +7 vs. Physical, and Furious, customized. If you want, bring Pumpkin Slices.

Zone in, wait for Kilroy to catch up to the first mob, hit Rampager's and Pumpkin Slice. Destroy anything and everything in your path. Chain the Dual Attack, the 80 damage attack, and the interrupt/fast attack, and you have an instant KO. Don't aggro too much, or you will find yourself on the ground often, and it really slows down the run. If you get knocked out, press 8 and click on it, double the energy. Tested results: (I've done it for 6 survivor chars, I know what I am talking about) 34 k exp per run. On a 60 AL char, the run takes an average of 7:30 mins. On a 70 AL char, it takes around 7. On 80, still around 7. Anything higher, and your still around 7, as you can't increase your killing speed. However, if your an assassin primary, with Nightstalker's Insignias, and custoed knuckles, you can clock in around 6:30 mins. You also gain mucho dinero for this run. I get elite warrior tomes, golds, lockpicks, ect. I've personally made a little side cash with drops from chests and the Stone Summit.

Enjoy.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

When I first figured out that being knocked out didn't cause a death, I instantly thought of this. The only problem I have with it, and the reason I haven't done it yet, is I fear any kind of lag spike. When out with a team, capping or whatever, you've got others to cover you for the most part; so a lag spike wouldn't affect it much. On your own, well, you're screwed.

I do have a few questions - has it been proven that the mods on the knuckles actually affect anything? I mean, the 15/-5 doesn't decrease energy, +30 doesn't add health, and I haven't noticed any difference in adrenaline gain with the furious (not that 10% chance of +1 would be noticeable). Does the +7 vs. physical make any kind of impact? And possibly Stalwart Insignias? Does the +15% actually add damage?

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

the +armor wont change dmg a lot, or maybe for a Warrior ^^

willypiggy

willypiggy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/Mo

Went from 10 to 14 in 1 round NM with a lightbringer scroll. I think its pretty nice spot.

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

this spot makes me really angry and happy in the same time together ...

first I'm really happy about a nice farm spot for survivor..taking out of this title its massive point of frustration..if you try to receive the title by normal playing without this kind of farming ...you seriously get more slowed down in the game, as anything else, trying to avoid all slightest things, that could kill you...fleeing in an instant, when you see any lag upcoming or the situation becoming too dangerous ....

then I get really pissed of..because Anet didn#t yet finally changed also too the Defender of ascalon title ....making this title in first sight first finally serious and not only a bloodbath for perma dieing freaks... this has nothing to do with defending Ascalon ....

this is, as if I would intitle an character now legendary survivor ..for eating a 1000 kg Candy, because after eating it, my character didn't explode...so fat like a ton it is then .... and has survived eating a 1000kg Candy *sarcasm*

Anet now really reached the point..where they have rto change the LDoA title..to fix finally the issue about it and to make both titles fair and also gettable at the same time...meaning, that both titles don't get requirements, which neutralize each other....

so get rid of deathleveling for LDoA and make the title also attainable for characters out of the tutorial .... give old characters with a registry date ofrom before the implementation dat of titles also a "One Time Only temporal Death Counter Reset" so that those receive also a chance to get the survivor title, without getting forced to delete those characters...and once those characters die..they get back their old death counters +1

then would be both titles fair an finally fixed... also titles should be imo only for non tutorial parts of the game...meaning presearing characters shouldn't be able to show titles ....

perma presearing characters should receive an other kind of reward..once they reach a certain time being in pre... that has nothing to do with getting level 20

John Panda

John Panda

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

in my house

The Arctic Maruarders [TAM]

A/

Recently like 2 days ago i got this title from farming fronis irontoes lair (: tons of goodies and exp didnt take me to long as i used scrolls in hard mode got 40kexp every run.

truemyths

truemyths

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

hey, thanks for the tip.. I can't make it all the way through yet on HM but I did get a number of great drops... woo hoo!

Mork from Ork

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
d.

I do have a few questions - has it been proven that the mods on the knuckles actually affect anything? How much mods help out I don't know - 15% is very little when the base damage of daggers is so small. But that they do have an effect is certain. In trying various mods I tried a vampiric and it did do the -3 per hit so, yes, the mods (except for energy and hp) do have an effect.

truemyths

truemyths

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

ok, I just tried this and great run!

I end up with a load of knockdowns though and I can get back up when I have 60-70 energy but not more (can't press buttons fast enough).

Any other tricks/tips? I'm now luring them from groups, but that doesn't seem to jive with your 6-8 minute run times in HM

Thanks!

meat shield

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

holland , delft

[NL]

A/W

assing the buttons 8,9,i and o to skil 8 and spam them

thig

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

S??by, Denmark

A Few Good Men

Mo/

Hmm....Anet might as well give all the maxed titles to everyone that makes a new character, since many of the titles are so easy to get now. It seems the only ones that requires some work to get are the afk titles......

Theo Godscythe

Theo Godscythe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by thig
Hmm....Anet might as well give all the maxed titles to everyone that makes a new character, since many of the titles are so easy to get now. It seems the only ones that requires some work to get are the afk titles...... Oh stop whining first they are to much of a grind, then people find ways to make it more casual, and now it’s too easy make your f***ing mind up, seriously.

tortugan

tortugan

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

[DVDF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by thig
Hmm....Anet might as well give all the maxed titles to everyone that makes a new character, since many of the titles are so easy to get now. It seems the only ones that requires some work to get are the afk titles...... he's right tho, Most titles were hard to get and really an achievement, but people kept saying stuff was too hard so they introduced ways to get the title easier(PvE skills, that dungeon, consumables)

Proff

Proff

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by tortugan
he's right tho, Most titles were hard to get and really an achievement, but people kept saying stuff was too hard so they introduced ways to get the title easier(PvE skills, that dungeon, consumables) Ya, cause pve skills, consumables and the dungeon were all just a part of anets attempt to make ls easier -.-

sirpong

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by meat shield
assing the buttons 8,9,i and o to skil 8 and spam them What does assing stand for? I can figure out what it means but don't understand the abbreviation. More importantly, how do you do it?

Xylia

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Pond [pond]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by sirpong
What does assing stand for? I can figure out what it means but don't understand the abbreviation. More importantly, how do you do it? I believe he means "assign", as in go into the key configuration in the options and assign the #8 skill slot to three different buttons, so that you can mash all of them in quick succession. I've also had good luck pressing 8 and clicking on the skill repeatedly at the same time.

Netster

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

R/Mo

Spamming 8 and mouse clicking on the skill at the same time means you can carry on up to over 100 energy. I tend to watch tv as I do this dungeon so suffer quite a few knockdowns at times lol.

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

P/

The "easiest" farm is now the wurms outside boreal station in hard mode. Because their is 0 chance to die unless you go in melee range. So just use any degen and skills you got and stay at range.

That is only if you have a bad connection or lag or don't feel like you trust it in boxing.

Alya

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

European servers

RTFM

Any tips how to repeatedly beat the Punch-Out Extravaganza in HM?

No problem with NM, I get there usually to the end boss without any or just 1-2 KDs (solo, without Kilroy), but HM seems to be a real hurdle. Kilroy goes down too fast, especially in the passage with rangers who fell him down in a few seconds; summit carvers use Disrupting Chop and disable my block for 20 sec (how on earth can they interrupt and disable a STANCE?!), I get lots of damage, and when I get on my feet again, I'm already down to half bar before I can even hit "run". The same with the groups of three melee fighters in the large chamber with Mahgma: Kilroy isn't of any help, and they kill me as soon as I get up -- they start hitting me even before I get up, and I'm dead after 2-3 blows.

This is getting increasingly frustrating. I had 1-2 successful runs in HM but now I suspect that it was just a streak of very good luck

(Yes, I have fully modded gold knuckles, with 12 in daggers).

Netster

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

R/Mo

You can pull the melee fighters away from the archers and Killroy should follow. It's not disrupting chop that disables your blocking skills, it's broadhead arrow. Just retreat and wait for the daze to wear off.

Sometimes it does all go wrong and when you have a risky amount of energy to recover just map back to town and start again.

I think the mods and dagger mastery are a waste of time tbh.

Marverick

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MercenaryKnight
The "easiest" farm is now the wurms outside boreal station in hard mode. Because their is 0 chance to die unless you go in melee range. So just use any degen and skills you got and stay at range.

That is only if you have a bad connection or lag or don't feel like you trust it in boxing. Or someday ANet slips in a secret update that makes knockdowns count as deaths and screws everyone farming in here over.

Jeremy Untouchable

Jeremy Untouchable

Wow Stole my freetime

Join Date: Mar 2006

Arkansas

None

W/E

i have R2 atm from this.. However, i still have trouble beating HM. I have done it once..

Avatar Exico

Avatar Exico

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Way to Cold at Home:Illnois and School:Iowa.

We Trip Hard On [AcID]

N/

NM/HM is easy. If you don't get Daze spam Block Skill and if you have exp take on 3 HM Summit and not take much dmg. I did this Dungeon on HM with 4 Summit on my butt they never land a hit. I saw 0 from them and they got smoked. So if you get knockout it doesn't count as a Death so you can do it again until you get max Survivor Title. Key to this Dungeon is that Block Skill use it wisly it be your best friend.

sky sliverwolf

sky sliverwolf

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

R/

umm last time i was in there and got knockout, where i didnt get my energy up to full, it counted as a death

Chaos55

Chaos55

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Mo/E

Got survivor on my Ranger doing Dwarven Boxing. Spent about 35k on Lightbringer Scrolls along with the money you get from all those runs. Been playing on and off for a month doing it and in total, came to about a little over 12 hours (/age). I have another survivor doing hFFF and it comes nowhere as fast as this. Although if you lag and die while boxing, then....x_x. Hfff is still probably the safer way but dwarven boxing is quick if you want the title.

A Shade Of Dark

A Shade Of Dark

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

Idaho (United States)

X Legion Of Doom X [LoD]

I've done this to level all of my chars since I bought GW:EN. No survivor yet, I always seem to screw up and die running there, on my newest char (Warrior, trying to get GWAMM) I think I'll just fight through everything until I get to the outpost -.-
Oh, btw, set up both 8's on your keyboard to use Skill 8 and spam them both at the same time, I have been at the max energy and haven't failed to stand up once being KD.
~ASoD

Andruil

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

The 8, 9, i, o combo works excellent as well. Other than the fact I had a heck of a time remembering I remapped i to 8 and needed to remap my open bag key to something else lol.

fanatic 's faith

fanatic 's faith

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Guild Wars

Currently retired from [Cape]

E/

pretty old now tbh.

inf3st

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Tennessee

The Mirror Of Reason [Snow]

Mo/Me

I'm overly frustrated with this. NM is fine but HM... Well i can't get past the area with the second boss. Hell i can't even get to the second boss. I try to attack with Kilroy. And have everything set up correctly. Custom knuckles, and 12 dagger mastery. what am i missing here?

greywolf31

greywolf31

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

Western MA, USA

BHG

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by inf3st
I'm overly frustrated with this. NM is fine but HM... Well i can't get past the area with the second boss. Hell i can't even get to the second boss. I try to attack with Kilroy. And have everything set up correctly. Custom knuckles, and 12 dagger mastery. what am i missing here? Read this...

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...3&postcount=12

It may shed some light...

GL!

-T

Andruil

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

By the way if anyone can point me at some free video capturing software I'd be willing to record a run and post it on youtube for illustration.

Avatar Exico

Avatar Exico

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Way to Cold at Home:Illnois and School:Iowa.

We Trip Hard On [AcID]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by A Shade Of Dark
I've done this to level all of my chars since I bought GW:EN. No survivor yet, I always seem to screw up and die running there, on my newest char (Warrior, trying to get GWAMM) I think I'll just fight through everything until I get to the outpost -.-
Oh, btw, set up both 8's on your keyboard to use Skill 8 and spam them both at the same time, I have been at the max energy and haven't failed to stand up once being KD.
~ASoD This can be solved by getting a guildie or Friend to run you there. My Friend Ran my Necro from Gunner's Hold to next Norn Mission. So have a friend run you there and you should have no problems and you wont die.

Andruil

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

New info on Fronis Irontoe's lair here http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10256116

Its not horrible for survivors but definately not good.

Edit: Regardless of whether you can still do it in the same amount of time the information is still accurate and equiping weapon upgrades to the gold daggers does nothing for you anymore. Why that thread got closed I have no clue.

Pvp4lyfe

Pvp4lyfe

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mafia Of Annhilation

D/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by thig
Hmm....Anet might as well give all the maxed titles to everyone that makes a new character, since many of the titles are so easy to get now. It seems the only ones that requires some work to get are the afk titles...... ur probably just saying this cuz u failed on ur quest to get survivor. but if ur gonna ruin all the fun for us then y dont we just change the effect of knockdown to "wen u get knocked out thi counts as a death"