Thank you for the trial and Eye of the North Anet :)

The only part of your post I don't agree with, and that has nothing to do with grind. All my guildies who played through the trial agreed that they much preferred roaming around in dungeons over plowing through a plot mission.

Don't worry, it'll wear off.

PvE/PvP player here that likes doing just about anything in GW. Content length aside (which is compromised by price anyways)

EotN > Nightfall > Prophecies > Factions

EotN is a product of all the good parts of every previous game and inherits close to none of the flaws of the previous games. By far the most well put together and flowing game of the series. Its very evident that everyone who worked on EotN put every heartfelt ounce of effort they could into the game. Theres also the aspect of the game that IS grind, which alot of people actually WANT, so they got it (though it is in no way required, but rewarding should you do it) Props again to Anet.

I really fail to see where such harsh distaste came for this expansion. I suspect it has something to do with people overall being bored with the game and not seing an entirely new game coming out every campaign/expansion. Dunno.

I enjoy EN. Although the story was rather short compared to the previous instalments of the GW saga and I'm not much of a fan of grinding, there are still a lot of fun things to do. Not to mention that the soundtrack is very well written and the environments are absolutely stunning.

I don't like to rush to the end of games that I buy. I take my time and try to find every last bit of fun in them; all the tiny details that the developers put in that are so easily missed if you only focus on the obvious.

right on Rogue

seems to me all the people whining and moanig about GW;EN just seem to want a completely new game out of an expansion to a game they've already beaten to death. This new content isn't going to be revolutionarily different, just fun, something to take you back to why you enjoyed the game originally.

Alright... ingoring ALL the derailment posts.

On topic: Yeah a.net thanks for giving me a taste of GW:EN with this preview. It wasn't as bad as everybody said it was. Still not going to buy it, but thanks for letting me try it out for a bit.

I think this says it all, lolz.

It seems to me like the people who have the largest problem with GW:EN are spending too much of their time playing GW in general.

Of course everything is going to seem like a grind if you GRIND your way thru it. If you take your time and savor the things that you enjoy in the game then it is not a grind.

i.e.: Not a single Lightbringer point that I have earned on my main Nightfall character was due to grinding because I did not sit there for hours continually slaying monsters for points. Granted, titles influence grind, but grinding is a choice of the player's action on how they choose to play. If you are trying to get the most X in as little time as possible then, yes, you are grinding. If anyone feels they are grinding in GW:EN then they should change how they play the game.


On Topic: I bought GW:EN so the weekend means nothing to me, but I think it's a nice gesture to offer those who didn't purchase it a chance to try it out for themselves... Even if this "generous offer" was really just to promote more sales.

EoTN is great for the dungeons, but I think it should have been free to the owners of prophecies, or at least a lot cheaper.. It was really leftovers of the originally planned expansion, which had to be released anyways so the GW story could finish. I still love Guild Wars, i was just dissapointed in this since after you finished it, there was no more repeatability. I haven't visited it in a while either...

This Thread did not go the way i planned it. I was merely thanking A-net, not flaring up old hatred about grinding in GW. To those who said "it'll wear off", this is not what i meant. When i tried GWEN, it was much more fun than factions (im sure you all agree), thus complimenting Anet for getting me into the game.

In addition, i think those that are consistently doubting Anet's abilities to make it a good game should really just quit :S, you are only increasing your blood pressure which can get very bad as you grow older.

Ive PMed a moderator, going to get this thread closed before it escalates into a chaotic Frenzy+Healsig

Good on ya turtle! I mainly GvG, but there is nothing I see wrong with EOTN and have never regretted pre-ordering it and buying it. Then again I'm not a hardcore PvEer and so maybe I lack the expertise to give a solid opinion. Though I will say that bashing GW and Anet seems to have become the "cool" thing to do and don't get why peeps don't just move on if they really aren't enjoying what the game has to offer. Unsolved mystery I guess. If you just care about the game then I understand that, but why not try to do something yourself to improve the game externally or offer up productive requests/suggestions for GW2.

Good to see that some people are actually grateful for getting a free trial, unliek the QQ thread about trial being too short

That is EXACTLY ArenaNet wants, people playing the expansion demo, liking it, and buying it.

I was really surprised about ArenaNet not doing this before, I mean before the release, not now. I already have the game, but I really appreciate demos.

IMO, not releasing a demo BEFORE the release was a mistake. The demo was a pre-release, when it should be free for all players.

Way to derail a thread with blunt statements and kiddie language, Rhanoct and Fenix.

Well, I said just for PvP. You see, Prophecies WAS intended to be an introduction/warm up for PvP. Ask Anet, it was their design. Look at the Crystal Desert, Relic running, altar capping, killing teams. It's all PvP stuff. The point was to get you to understand the mechanics so you could go to PvP after PvE and understand how to do it.

In Factions, it was less obvious, but there was still a point in the direction of AB or Fort Aspenwood/Jade Quarry, as they had a strong focus on Kurzick/Luxon battles, so naturally people would move to the PvP side of it.


That hurt my feelings Longasc, and after all I've done for you. You know, that one time we PvE'd together. What happened to you man, you used to be cool. I still have the pic of you congratulating me on Leg Guardian. What happened to THAT Longasc?

:P

Oh I think it was a good idea to let us try this expansion. And it gave me some interesting moments of playing, so yes in that way I am grateful for the experience.

Yet it leaves me with more questions than before, and it does not make it easier for me to decide whether to buy it or not, e.g.:

-I spent a lot of time finding the way to get from Gunnar's Hold to Longeye's Ledge (neighbour keeps on the map), but could not find it.
-I spent a lot of time finding a way to open the door in a northern Far Shiverpeak dungeon (the one with a note at the door), but could not find a way to open it.
-The armourers and weapon smithies refused to sell me anything because I had to get to some rank? I did not understand that part, but I still have no impression of the skins for sale in EotN.

So I spent too much time in looking for ways to access things which were probably not accessable at all at the start of EotN. Landscape and gamplay were ok and the monsters I encountered were challenging. But so many questions left lol...

Derailed posts + flames + OP request for lock = closed thread.