Heal Party?
Cherng Butter
Kind of a narrow question, but is it too far-fetched to use this skill with Mind Blast+Rodgort's+Etc. ?
Tab
It could be done, Mind Blast could power it easily enough as long as you don't spam it. For PvE, it should work fine, in PvP youll just get leaked/dshotted.
Stormlord Alex
Easily viable.
Just use moderation if you're running Rodgort's and HP together, even MB can be a little taxed by that much energy drain.
Just use moderation if you're running Rodgort's and HP together, even MB can be a little taxed by that much energy drain.
Div
It's pretty much the same as spamming blinding flash on recharge. The only problem with the HP is that it's a lot more vulnerable to interrupts even with a 40/40 heal set.
tenshi_strife
yea i would say dont use it, its really not worth the cost, just get a good monk cause imo eles should not heal EVER, you can do convert but that it.
angmar_nite
Ele's are far more suited for extinguish/heal party spam. With mind blast, they aren't as crippled by enchantment stripping as well, unlike Healer's boon.
MBP
if you wanna be defensive as a mind blaster it's probably better to just add some wards rather than heals
the most i'd ever do would be convert or extinguish
the most i'd ever do would be convert or extinguish
Div
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Originally Posted by tenshi_strife
yea i would say dont use it, its really not worth the cost, just get a good monk cause imo eles should not heal EVER, you can do convert but that it.
Uhh...do you know what you're talking about? Ether prod heal party spammers were huge before, and mind blast gives you the same energy access.
Aris the Accurate
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Sir Pandra Pierva
Tenshi is hardcore blow shit up. I agree with him sometimes but personally though I have seen the mindblast heal party eles and such I dont care for them and dont find them all that effective, aegis is about the only one I kinda like. They can do good.
Cherng Butter
Thanks for all your opinions, this is for general PvE (not PvP of any kind)
Grammar
Heal Party works just fine on a MB + RI Ele in PvE.
But to be honest though, I think I'd rather have Wards or Aegis on an Ele than Heal Party.
Wards and Aegis are just too damn good in PvE.
But to be honest though, I think I'd rather have Wards or Aegis on an Ele than Heal Party.
Wards and Aegis are just too damn good in PvE.
Stormlord Alex
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Thanks for all your opinions, this is for general PvE (not PvP of any kind)
For PvE, I'd be tempted to take Breath of the Great Dwarf as an 'OH SHIT! RED BARS GOGO!!!' button; it gives you party-wide health support whilst still allowing you to spec Earth, Prot or Air for other defensive utilities.
MBP
not to mention that it looks and sounds super cool when casting.
LifeInfusion
For PVE: Mindblast +wards +Breath of Great Dwarf imo.
Heal Party is too slow when mobs have interrupts (and those spiders with the Pve monster skill that doubles your cast time with kill you)
I personally used to use Heal Party when flagging in 2005 and also when running Fire in PVE (because Fire had super long recharges and everyone wanted nukers...
Times have changed, so should you
Heal Party is too slow when mobs have interrupts (and those spiders with the Pve monster skill that doubles your cast time with kill you)
I personally used to use Heal Party when flagging in 2005 and also when running Fire in PVE (because Fire had super long recharges and everyone wanted nukers...
Times have changed, so should you
Arkantos
I still use it on my ele, it's a good short recharge party support. Breath of the great dwarf has a shit recharge, wards don't help against hexes and conditions. Usually don't spec into anything other then energy storage + xx magic, so I'm only losing a few points of unneeded energy.
LifeInfusion
The thing with Heal Party is you end up spending 15 energy on it and you get a 60ish to 70ish partywide heal provided you invest 8-10 attribute levels in Healing Prayers. That is assuming that 2 second cast doesn't get shut down. Not counting Glyph of Energy,Mind Blast, Glowing Gaze, Glowstone, Glowing Ice, or other energy management you need 11.25 seconds of 4 energy pips to gain 15 energy so if you're running something with Rodgort's Invocation, Meteor Shower, Searing flames (useless against Destroyers) or other 15 to 25 energy skill(s).
Breath of the Great Dwarf, while on 15 recharge, only is 10 energy and 1 cast...plus it removes a condition (Flaming Djinn anyone?). It is much more flexible as a multi-purpose skill.
Sure you cannot spam it on 2 recharge (4 recharge to be honest since you have to count 2 cast time but it is less likely to be shut down with Savage Shot from a Destroyer of Deeds or Power Leaked by a Destroyer of Thoughts.
It might not be as viable (as a heal) when you have rank 3 Dwarven Reputation (45 HP healed at Rank 3 Dwarven) but when you get to 6 it hits that magical 52 HP point.
Breath of the Great Dwarf, while on 15 recharge, only is 10 energy and 1 cast...plus it removes a condition (Flaming Djinn anyone?). It is much more flexible as a multi-purpose skill.
Sure you cannot spam it on 2 recharge (4 recharge to be honest since you have to count 2 cast time but it is less likely to be shut down with Savage Shot from a Destroyer of Deeds or Power Leaked by a Destroyer of Thoughts.
It might not be as viable (as a heal) when you have rank 3 Dwarven Reputation (45 HP healed at Rank 3 Dwarven) but when you get to 6 it hits that magical 52 HP point.
Mouse at Large
You can also try out TNTF if you have high enough Sunspear rank. I know it's been nerfed for non-para primaries, but it still provides a nice 4 secs of damage reduction and a party-wide heal at the end.
bungusmaximus
HP is nice on a pve ele, if the monks happen to suck you can really help out a lot.
Wakka
Aegis ftw on eles ^^
Neriandal Freit
Back in the 'younger' elementalist days for me, I was only E/Mo and would often be only Fire/Energy/Healing which quiet often helped the "young" players of Guildwars.
Today, you have more options but it's still a nice skill to use in PvE if you are set up right. You shouldn't be relied upon, but could be easily a minor support Healer for certain intense areas.
Today, you have more options but it's still a nice skill to use in PvE if you are set up right. You shouldn't be relied upon, but could be easily a minor support Healer for certain intense areas.
batno_mercy
Not heal party. Either Aegis or/and Breath of the great dwarf at good rank. Makes your life A LOT easier coupled with Mind Blast
Ensign
If you don't have a player Paragon TNTF is excellent. Breath of the Great Dwarf and Protective Was Kaolai are decent as well.
Heal Party is good if you expect to have to cast it a lot; you can set up a team in this way, but it really consumes the entire character to pump parties and you're likely better off with some other character in that slot. Otherwise the rapid recharge isn't going to matter nearly as much as you think.
Heal Party is good if you expect to have to cast it a lot; you can set up a team in this way, but it really consumes the entire character to pump parties and you're likely better off with some other character in that slot. Otherwise the rapid recharge isn't going to matter nearly as much as you think.
Cherng Butter
Is Great Dwarf Weapon any good? To put a weird offensive twist on an ele skillbar?
blue.rellik
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Is Great Dwarf Weapon any good? To put a weird offensive twist on an ele skillbar?
It's one of the best weapon spells but on a ele?
Stormlord Alex
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It's one of the best weapon spells but on a ele?
Can't see why not on an ele.
Someone needs to buff the physicals with GDW, and it might as well be the dude with infinite energy and half a bar still to play with.
Someone needs to buff the physicals with GDW, and it might as well be the dude with infinite energy and half a bar still to play with.
blue.rellik
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Someone needs to buff the physicals with GDW, and it might as well be the dude with infinite energy and half a bar still to play with. Oh I mis-interpreted it. I thought he meant that it gets cast on the ele.
Arkantos
As fun as it is, stop making fun of clueless people. 
Cherng Butter
Thanks for all the help, guys! From what I've gathered, good utility skills in the spacious Mindblaster skillbar include TTtF (I like this), Aegis, Convert, Extinguish (I like this), HP to an extent, Dwarf Breath thingy, Great Dwarf Weapon, wards (I like this), and maybe some ritualist stuff?
Hopefully I'll be playing with the big boys in HM GWEN missions soon!
Hopefully I'll be playing with the big boys in HM GWEN missions soon!
JR
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Breath of the Great Dwarf and Protective Was Kaolai are decent as well.
I fail to see how 60~ health every 15 seconds is decent (in reference to BotGD). The quarter second cast is nice, but that's kind of an unnecessary frill for a party heal in PvE.
UnKn0wN415
I tried using the skill on my ele and manage to get 8 wins in RA...
Cherng Butter
Would Mind Bender be a good skill to use on a Mind Blaster? Not really any support or anything, but with a decent Asura rank and 20% enchanting you can get a 2/3 upkeep on 1 second Rodgort's Invocation...plus a nifty speed boost.
Sir Pandra Pierva
its not bad I use it when I dual attune rodgorts and it would work on a mindblast bar