Bring back Disappear...at least try to

I just found this skill. What!? Can we try to bring it back? Play test it some weekend? As a PvE-only skill? Something?

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Disappear

Uh... Balance?

whats the point of the skill???

lol, what an awesome skill.

Course, it's 100% unbalenced, and totally way out of line... But damn son, that would be bloody awesome. I would enjoy knowing the mechanics of what that skill would entail. Would you become totally void of attention? (AKA, aggro no longer applies to you for X time.)

that would make running places 100% easy, hey look a mob *run skill* *disappear* *appear on other side* done

As a PvE skill, it really doesn't need balance. Tie it to Illusion. If you move, you lose disappear. It is roughly the equivalent to Gwen's Feign Death or Hide in the BMP. I think it would be fun.

Would be interesting to see how that'd work out. I like the icon art for it.

on the same topic, they should return this skill:

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/%22Do...eir_Lies%21%22

for help with all the new shiny hexes the new campaigns have brought.

And LOL @ this skill:

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Spontaneous_Combustion

I really like this one:

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Confusion

Lol it would screw the game over so much. The skill icon is nice as said before.

If the skill were a PvE-only skill, how would screw over the game? If the skill required that the player not move, how would this screw over the game? Would it be better if it were indirectly linked to Fast Casting (With Fasting Casting 4 or less, this spell has a 50% chance to fail)?

As someone already stated above, anyone could run anywhere at any lvl, would be hard below lvl 5-ish sure, but still doable. There is no need for a skill like this, it wasn't kept in at release for good reason. I'ts not the only one either, there were a lot of great skills they had to take out, cuz they would have screwed up the balance of the game.

*EDIT* add on
On a side note, look at the skill "Spontaneous Combustion" that was taken out, I believe it was meant to be a end boss (mob only) type skill, but still wtf?
Description: Target catches on fire then Explodes?!?!?! lmao
"I cast DEATH on you!"

As funny as that sounds, its just wrong and way unbalanced... I'de still like to see some people explode though ^^

There's a reason why they removed that skill from the game. It's either going to be insanely game breaking (allow for easy farming of any boss/mob or running) or completely useless (if you make it end when you move/attack/cast).

I can't see it being any more game breaking than consuming/traversing or shadow stepping/recalling/etc.

I would prefer a PvE skill like "Hide" and/or "Feign Death," the skills Gwen use in the BMP. Could be cool and at least more creative than the PvE skills we have currently.

Pretty broken then?

Personally I'd like to see Lightning Storm make a reappearance (pun only slightly intended), properly balanced of course. It's never seemed right that Fire Storm doesn't have an appropriate lightning-based AoE counterpart. Chain Lightning is alright, but who wouldn't like to cast giant bolts of electricity down upon their enemies?

Lol that skill looks cool, now i'm looking through al the removed skills

From the article:
I had forgotten how horribly bad Unnatural Signet was before they remade it.
Worst Skill Ever


On topic, no Disappear, please.

That was an in town skill, the same type as the one mad kin thorm uses to kill people adjacent to him, on haloween.

If I recall correctly(knowing me thats a rather small chance)it had the fire storm animation.

Glyph of Renewal anyone? >.>

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Mirror_of_Delusions + SS = GG to everything in PvE

where I see this, there are really soem under, which I would love to see implemented as update to the skills of EotN ...

Call of Brutality:

Change Duration from 30 to 20s, reduce armor Penetration to 5-25% and let the Pet deal the 1-12 more damage, when the enemy suffers on an condition.
Finally raise Energy Cost to 15. and reduce Recharge to 45s.
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Call of Disruption:
Remove the Armor penetration completely, raise the Chance of disrupting to max 10-33% and let this Skill knock down foes, when they move, raise also e cost to 15 and reduce duration/recharge by 10s.
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Call of Elemental Protection:
First change that Name to :Call of Assimilation
Just take away the base damage reduction and reduce e cost to 5
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Call of Feeding:
Just make that Skill an Elite Skill, reduce damage reduction to 1-10 and increase health gain by hit to 5-30
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Call of Ferocity:
Echange thee 50% AP...to a max 5-25% for pet attacks to deal to the enemy "cracked armor"...rename skill then to Call of Ambush
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Call of Healing:
A really nice Skill, id love to see ingame
Make it an Elite and reduce recharge to 30s
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Call of Resilience:
Change it to this effect:
Removes 1-3 Conditions from your pet...for every condition removed by this way, you and your pet will be protected against the next 1-3 hexes towards you or your pet. Reduce recharge to 45s
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Call of the Hunter:
change the effect to:
For the next 20 seconds, whenever your pet deals an critical hit, then you'll be healed for 5-30 hp, if your pet kills somebody meanwhile, then gets the healing doubled and you also rechieve 1-5 Energy reduce recharge to 45s
and raise e cost to 15
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Call of Vitality:
remove the damage reduction and change it to a strength reduction of bleeding, poison. So when your pet will receive poison or bleeding, then these conditions will be 1-2 pips lesser strong, when this call is active, reduce max duration to 30s and reduce recharge to 25s max, reduce health bonus to max + 150 hp
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Confusion:
on this skill imo doesn#t anything to be changed...mesmer is really missing this... also the Confusion Condition is imo really missing to game, like so much other conditions, like petrification, paralysis, frozen, silenced ect. pp.
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Disappear:
rename this Skill to Illusion Trick and change skil effect to:
The mesmer will create for 10 seconds an illusion clone of his self, while you disappear. This Skil will deativate all your other skills for 10 seconds
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"Don't believe their lies":
Give this Skill an Adrenaline cost of 6, hex dration reduce by 15-33% and reduce range to "in your near"
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High Winds:
Change skill to miss chance of 15-33%, when "not" enchanted, and give attacks additional 10-20% armor Penetration. Attacks will also cause cracked for 10 seconds, when the arrow hits a non moving target, that doesnt attack or use a spell. make this skil an elite. and change it into the survivor line
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Lightning Storm:
Give Air Eles also an AoE Skill >.> and ? is it then unthemated, doesn#t mean that it can't be balanced...
Lightning Storm will deal for the next 10 seconds to an area 35-75 damage per second to eavy foe, which stands in the place of the Lightning Storm.
While standing in the lightning storm, every hit taken will let the foe suffer 1-3 seconds on blinding and if the foe was knocked down before, then instead will lightning storm deal to the foe cracked armor for 10s.
This Spell has 25% Armor penetration and causes Exhaustion.
Skill Cost and recharge, like Meteor Shower
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Mantra of Celerity:
Reduce buff from 50% to 25%, remove duration, set in instead "the next 1-5 spells" change the stuff about the 3 energy lose, that these 1-5 spells will simple cost 5-3 energy more then..., reduce energy cost to 10
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Mimic:
yah put in, for nice new tripple nuke builds XD with echo, arcane echo and mimic XD, but raise e cost of that skill to 25e and raise usage from "once" to twice, also reduce cast tiem from 3 to 1s and raise recharge from 10s to 15s
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Mirror of Delusions:
just give it a cast time ..say 2s and a recharge time of say 15s, raise e cost to 25..finish
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Your right. theres a video of it but I dont want to post it and lag the hell out of guru.

~the rat~

Omg!

A/Me casts Disappear and then jumps me with Shadow Prison! Omg!

Yeah. Bring them back...

...as a Lightbringer Title Track skills, XDDD.

That's not for PvP, but sounds nice to fill the gaps of the 'missing' 5..8 Lightbringer skills.

lawl relic running when invisible, no one could attack u

Lol, that your way of balancing?

To make lightning storm balanced it'd have to stick with air skills nature of that target and up to two adjacent targets.

Lightning Storm - 25, 3, 30
Spell. Create a Lightning Storm at target foe's location. For 2...6 seconds, one foe adjacent to that location and up to 1...2 foes adjacent to that foe are struck for 5...29...35 lightning damage each second. This spell has 25% armor penetration and causes exhaustion.

To be honest.. all of those pet skills are super over buffed. Do you realize what could then happen? Thumper groups would be back, but instead there'd be a ranger shouter with them, yes, those are shouts and skills, THEY stack. That'd be one indomitable force.

Yeah that'd be pretty nuts. You'd even have 6 more skills to fill.

is it just me, or does this skill remind you of Gwen's "feign death" skill in BMP

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Skill_Gem

That's some interesting historical info there.
Thanks for pointing out this section of the official wiki. Kinda cool. Oh, and /notsigned

Jeez, pets were insane in the beta...

ya, that is it ..more Lightbrigner Skills and Sun Spear Skils for the higher ranks ^^

signed *g*

@Shadow: that was only a 1st concept...meteor Shower is still much stronger
max damage of Meteor Shower goes above 100 damage per meteor and meteor knocks down enemies...lightning storm only blinds them then and only when it hits knocked down foes it gives the cracked armor effect instead

Skill Cost, cast time, and recharge are similar to meteor shower...with the 25% AP of typical lightning spells, LS will have similar power like meteor storm...
I made in the end only a lightniung based meteor shower skill, with the only difference, that it doesn't knock down foes....it will blind or crack armor

Whoa, that's actually really sweet.

I would favor of such a system coming back. Or something similar for GWs 2.

So...with an AoE KD, this both does more damage than MS (cracked armor making each pulse hit for more), blinds, AND is in an att that has relatively crappy AoE. Also, you said it hits "every second" instead of "every 3 seconds".

Definitely not happening.

Dang, I'd put most of those on my Beast Mastery Bar from that removed skills index. Those would have been nice.

But yeah, most of those are over powered, except for High Winds. Why as that taken out?

heheh, elementalist new skill, summon fog

Who said you turn invisible? It just says "disappear," which could mean you stay in one spot while waiting for something exciting to happen for all I know =P

I would love it if someone would put info on the official wiki on "fame sticks". I've heard about those in all the "back in the olden days" threads and nobody has ever told me what they are when I ask.