Does anyone here think that the price people are selling the keys for is way over the top, like the chest is good and all but isnt acauly as good as a HM locked chest because of the added chance of crappy consumables.
And sure people say it drops eternal blades but i have yet to believe that, if of course it does drop eternal blades and other ultra rares, then rare enough stay at 5k a key, but if not its just a scam lol.
Anything think it'll die down? considering all it takes is a few pvp rounds to get keys...
The Price Of Zaishen Keys 5k??
dont feel no pain
Earth
It drops Eternal Blades, there's a post somewhere in the "Post your Zaishen Chest drops HERE!" thread.
cthulhu reborn
Sorry but what's your point here?
If they are too expensive, don't buy em. If enough people do that they will go down in price.
As a general rule everything that comes out new is overpriced and will then go down over time. It's not a question but more a fact of life, even in the real world (look at DVD prices over time for example).
If all it takes is a few rounds of PvP well then do that instead of buying em.
I don't see how this is more than just common sense. You pretty much answered your own question.
If they are too expensive, don't buy em. If enough people do that they will go down in price.
As a general rule everything that comes out new is overpriced and will then go down over time. It's not a question but more a fact of life, even in the real world (look at DVD prices over time for example).
If all it takes is a few rounds of PvP well then do that instead of buying em.
I don't see how this is more than just common sense. You pretty much answered your own question.
ValaOfTheFens
Its a seller's market. Some people don't PvP and so its expected that Zaishen would cost more than a traditional key. 5k is rather cheaper than I expected them to be.
Steboy93
People will pay outrageous prices for new thing, see the 1st req9 eternal blade illegedly selling for 100k+1500e+arms(was a fishy deal and doubt it sold for this though). I think the prices will fall in weeks to come.
kobey
its not just that ppl are selling for 5k per key
i see ppl wtb zaishen key for 5k
its not just the seller that decide the price, the buyer has a say too
i see ppl wtb zaishen key for 5k
its not just the seller that decide the price, the buyer has a say too
onerabbit
becuase tonnes of people are buying them, they all want the keys fast, so people will pay more than others to make sure they get the keys, not the other guy ..
so one person is wtb zaishen key 4.5k ..
and the other keys is like, well i want keys to ..il buy at 5k .. and so on..
people selling the keys know they can get higher for them aswell, so they will try and get as much as they can for them
so one person is wtb zaishen key 4.5k ..
and the other keys is like, well i want keys to ..il buy at 5k .. and so on..
people selling the keys know they can get higher for them aswell, so they will try and get as much as they can for them
ensoriki
I'd just sell keys for 3k.
If you start selling lower than others, everyone else has to lower their price to compete with you.
And thats how you kill high end.
If you start selling lower than others, everyone else has to lower their price to compete with you.
And thats how you kill high end.
onerabbit
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I'd just sell keys for 3k.
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your just kill your profits and everyone will buy them all of you until you run out and carry on buying from other people for ~5k.
they'd just think they got lucky.
TheGuildWarsPenguin
Im thinking prices go up after the "secret drop" Andrew Patrick mentioned drops for someone.
dont feel no pain
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1 person lowing his price wont kill hi end..
your just kill your profits and everyone will buy them all of you until you run out and carry on buying from other people for ~5k. they'd just think they got lucky. |
Dante the Warlord
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I'd just sell keys for 3k.
If you start selling lower than others, everyone else has to lower their price to compete with you. And thats how you kill high end. |
WinterSnowblind
This is the case for pretty much everthing. It's new, everyone wants it. People will pay whatever they can to get the stuff. Look back at the Black Moa pets or the tokens for the Crown in Eye of the North.
Onarik Amrak
When people realise the chance of getting something super awesome is incredibly rare, the price will drop.
Coridan
i think the price will actually increase once someone gets a drop that has never dropped before..... factions is not as easy to farm as money is...therefore there value will be higher....alot of people can't compete in PVP with a darn and will get discouraged and quit instead of getting better...so the price will remain above 5k imo
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...3&postcount=30
Link for Andrew saying stuff that has never dropped will drop
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...3&postcount=30
Link for Andrew saying stuff that has never dropped will drop
Onarik Amrak
Well I suppose it's as rare as the Mini Ghostly Hero.
But is it another Mini? Mini Togo? Any ideas?
But is it another Mini? Mini Togo? Any ideas?
darkk wound
lmfao wow "the chest is good and all but isnt acauly as good as a HM locked chest " HM chests suck nothing ever good drops from them
Croco Clouds
Imagine what will happen to the key price if the zaishen chest drops ambrace
garethporlest18
Yeah I know it sucks, I should have bought 100 or so at 2k.
Steboy93
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Imagine what will happen to the key price if the zaishen chest drops ambrace
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Don't worry, it won't
Navaros
5K is a good price for them. At 5K they start to become somewhat reasonable of a compensation for the time it takes to acquire the 5K Faction needed to get them At 2K, they aren't even close to being worth the time it takes to acquire 5K worth of Faction just for a measly 2K.
kobey
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Imagine what will happen to the key price if the zaishen chest drops ambrace
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eternal blades are 100k + xxxx ectos b4 they drop from zaishen chest
i dun see how the key prices will get affected if they drop armbrace
You can't see me
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armbraces are abt 100k + 40e or so
eternal blades are 100k + xxxx ectos b4 they drop from zaishen chest i dun see how the key prices will get affected if they drop armbrace |
manitoba1073
i wont pay more than 2k a key period but thats me.
YunSooJin
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Yeah I know it sucks, I should have bought 100 or so at 2k.
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maraxusofk
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Originally Posted by You can't see me
Well, say bye bye to Tormented Weapons. Then all Arenanet has to do is kill Destroyer weapons and then all weapons in the game will just continue to decline and decline until the High End forums in this site are dry as the Sahara.
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Seraphic Divinity
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Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak
When people realise the chance of getting something super awesome is incredibly rare, the price will drop.
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Its not like THOUSANDS of eternal blades and incribable crystallines have flooded the markets
Buyer pays 500k for keys- Use chest... gets 1 rare item- sells for 100k+150e
*repeat proccesss*
ShadowsRequiem
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Originally Posted by You can't see me
Well, say bye bye to Tormented Weapons. Then all Arenanet has to do is kill Destroyer weapons and then all weapons in the game will just continue to decline and decline until the High End forums in this site are dry as the Sahara.
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I don't think you have to worry about that. Tormented and Crafted Gwen items wont change.
Stupid Shizno
"drops that no other chest will have" will most likley be the same as a HoH, prophasies skinned items that are inscribable.
HawkofStorms
Its new.
Once people realize that 70% of the drops are alcohol and suger, the prices will drop down.
Once people realize that 70% of the drops are alcohol and suger, the prices will drop down.
kvndoom
You can farm 5k in gold a LOT faster than you can get 5k faction doing RA (the only click-and-go PVP we have). Other PVP types will net faction faster, but they involve organizing groups (except for hero battles, but not sure how those are for faction). People who pay 5k for a key are basically paying for other people's time.
Master Knightfall
5k is a trivial amount to pay for a chance at a 100k item. So, that's what the price is and should remain. I'm more than happy to take 5k for my keys as I don't care about vanity fair, but, I do like having plat to buy whatever I want when I want if I want. It's not going to drop your rare greens so you won't have to worry about those, but, I look for the prices of those to go higher and the prices for the more common rares that are dropping out of the chest increase. It's a good sink for balth faction and a good way for noobs and casuals to get some nice weapons now.
LuckyGiant
Can everyone please stop comparing the price of keys to the time it takes to get balth faction, the price is soley high atm because its new and people think they have the chance to obtain a rare drop.
A majority of people will lose a lot of money off keys in the next week and drive the price down, while a lucky few that got a drop got rich. Keys are a gamble.
A majority of people will lose a lot of money off keys in the next week and drive the price down, while a lucky few that got a drop got rich. Keys are a gamble.
Witchblade
i just love the "guys there are rare stuff you didnt get from our chest yet" 
and then people clicked a lot on it and kept clicking, clicking and clicking again
Gold Sink got a new +1 here
and then people clicked a lot on it and kept clicking, clicking and clicking again
Gold Sink got a new +1 here
Theo Godscythe
5k is a bit too high for something that drops, consumables worth 500g, but then again people have sold things for way worse. Myself I'm just Ra-ing and selling until they drop the price.
Chronos the Defiler
i think if they implemented the tokens > Keys thing the price would go down too, because there would be so many keys going around it wouldn't be funny
HawkofStorms
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Harrier's haste
plus armbrace has already dropped quite alot imo, dropping anymore will lose it's value. Imaging: if everyone got an armbrace and it's market price is 100g, would you still wear these tormenting weapons to show off? No, it would be just like
any old weapon. And the Anet will have to make some new weapons in some new elite mission in NF.
any old weapon. And the Anet will have to make some new weapons in some new elite mission in NF.
Wish Swiftdeath
meh i should have sold the 40 keys i got from reward points >.< all i got was shitty consumables, a few req 13 golds and a elite monk tome - would have gained 200k instead of 20k...
aapo
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Its new.
Once people realize that 70% of the drops are alcohol and suger, the prices will drop down. |