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maraxusofk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

San Francisco, UC Berkeley

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09 Dec 2007 at 20:09 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121

How much fun did you get from opening the chest? Its a big game and adding small additions doesnt help, especcialy when there just replicating them from other areas but adding a different access to them. WELL SPOTTED. YOU WIN THREAD

i personally find opening the hest is PLENTY fun. the chance and excitement prior to openning it is fun enough. also, if i were doing pvp, i might as well have some material reward for doing so. awesome i say. awesome chest indeed.

reetkever

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/E

09 Dec 2007 at 20:09 - 42

More people can get nice skins now... what's the problem? I think the zaishen chest is awesome, it lets more people use the nice skins they always wanted.

Sure, the people that already got their Runic Blade req 8 for 100K + 200 ecto's may whine... But if you had soooo much cash to spend on 1 weapon you probably have enough money now to buy everything in the game.

About the economy - economy was messed up when lootscaling came and made people poor. This chest is actually a good thing. Players now don't have to pay 100K + 200 ecto's for 1 single item.

If you wanna look elitist, BE elitist and get titles. Don't carry weapons around just to show others that they suck and you rule...

Cammy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

WA

zulu

Mo/

09 Dec 2007 at 20:29 - 43

Tbh one needn't worry because the majority of people fail at pvp and thus it's not as easy to get keys as one might think. Add to this fact that the chest drops stupid consummables to rares in a 7:3 ratio and I think for the most part high-end weapons will stay high end.

1 up and 2 down

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Rt/

09 Dec 2007 at 20:40 - 44

Well, I searched my archive of responses and I felt this one would work best for this particular rant....

Aquadoren

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2006

New Zealand

Envoys of Time [EoT]

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09 Dec 2007 at 20:41 - 45

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121

How much fun did you get from opening the chest? Its a big game and adding small additions doesnt help, especcialy when there just replicating them from other areas but adding a different access to them. WELL SPOTTED. YOU WIN THREAD

I actually had a lot of fun opening the chest over and over. It was exciting not knowing what you were going to get and a great thrill when u get a rare skin.

Jebus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Belgium

Legion of Sacred Light [LSL]

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09 Dec 2007 at 20:43 - 46

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1 up and 2 down

Well, I searched my archive of responses and I felt this one would work best for this particular rant....

That's hardly original anymore.

greyf0x_f0x

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

UK

DVD Forums [DVDF]

Mo/Me

09 Dec 2007 at 20:44 - 47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jebus

That's hardly original anymore.

Nor is whining about a broken economy >_>

1 up and 2 down

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Rt/

09 Dec 2007 at 20:45 - 48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jebus

That's hardly original anymore.

I wasn't trying to be original, I was just responding to his thread.

Jebus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Belgium

Legion of Sacred Light [LSL]

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09 Dec 2007 at 20:46 - 49

Quote:

Originally Posted by greyf0x_f0x

Nor is whining about a broken economy >_>

I challenge you, make an interesting Riverside Inn thread.

Scary Raebbit

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

09 Dec 2007 at 20:48 - 50

Should have invested more in Kleenex.

Edwin Phate

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2007

fiSh

Mo/E

09 Dec 2007 at 20:54 - 51

I personally like it even though it would be nice to keep the rare stuff in halls but I think Fame is over rated way easier to get then gladiator rank. 1 win 1 point is easy.Doesn't seem fair you get the best emotes best drops and easy points when compared to gladiator.

Craywulf

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Righteous and Honorable (RAH)

N/Me

09 Dec 2007 at 20:59 - 52

I think there should be a way to control what people spend on buying items from other players. They should put a minimum/maximum bid value for each item's stat values. Skins are subjective to player's taste in the particular style.

Lets assume the Zaishen Keys market value is 100-500 gold depending on location, so if a player offers a Zaishen key for 1 gold, its not going to compute the transaction because the price is outside the required bid values. I suppose this why we need an auction house. I would also make it where players can't sell items on their own, then need to go thru auction house or sell it to a merchant. However I think exchanging items is fair.

I can see how people might abuse that system by using select items just for monetary exchanges and cashing in at merchant. I'd require a 72-144 hours (depending on item's true monetary value) requirement of keeping items before you can sell it to a merchant or auction it for gold.

Ecklipze

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

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09 Dec 2007 at 21:06 - 53

I like it because now, I can actually make money without having to step into the dull, torturous gaming experience that is PvE.

Trub

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

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09 Dec 2007 at 21:28 - 54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquadoren

I actually had a lot of fun opening the chest over and over. It was exciting not knowing what you were going to get and a great thrill when u get a rare skin.

QFT.
I'm afraid many PvE players don't realize the opponents in PvP matches DON'T drop lewt?..

The chest is a wonderful idea...maybe more will enjoy a good PvP match for the obvious reasons.

Tamuril elansar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

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09 Dec 2007 at 21:33 - 55

i play pvp... i dont mind economy because i can get those sweet things called tournament reward points from hero battle tournaments...

//RogueNine

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Rogue Squadron

E/Me

09 Dec 2007 at 21:57 - 56

Sorry, but everyone complaining about this is goddamn retarded. Go PVP a while and see how long it takes you to build up 1 Million balthazar faction to get 200 keys. You MIGHT get a crack at something really rare, and then again maybe not.

Bottom line: There was a huge influx of nice items flowing into the system because alot of people had banked faction and/or tourney points. The amount of time it will most likely take to pull something truly rare out of the Zaishen chest in the future will most likely be far higher than that of just straight out farming for the item. GFG.

TGgold

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Flying Gophers

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09 Dec 2007 at 22:04 - 57

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121

The economy was just hanging on but they just killed it with this stupid completley mindless idea of a chest which they took no thought in adding. There treating it as a single player game now and they dont care. They just want to make money quickly and if they want that they should charge monthly so we can all quit, then there dev team will be better but still utter crap.

The Trader reset is what killed the economy, for the most part. That was a long time ago and it brought a ton of wealth into a few hands. I missed the reset by a day (was at school).
Then there was the Chest in the shiverpeaks that needed no key and spawned every time. It took about 1 minute to get to.
Then there was the duping exploit. That killed the economy too.

For me, if the "high end" market falls, then great. The fact that there are still items in this game worth more than 100k is just...baffling to me.

Dev121

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

09 Dec 2007 at 22:08 - 58

Quote:

Originally Posted by TGgold

The Trader reset is what killed the economy, for the most part. That was a long time ago and it brought a ton of wealth into a few hands. I missed the reset by a day (was at school).
Then there was the Chest in the shiverpeaks that needed no key and spawned every time. It took about 1 minute to get to.
Then there was the duping exploit. That killed the economy too.

For me, if the "high end" market falls, then great. The fact that there are still items in this game worth more than 100k is just...baffling to me.

Shiverpeak chest didnt do anything to the economy, not many people even used it so I dont understand why you would bring that up.

Trader reset? I think I remember it but most of the rich people made from trading player to player not from some stupid anet editing.

I thought duping was fixed? Cant they do anything right?

Having items worth mroe than 100k means some people get rewarded for having gold, which is good, I have what I need for all my chars so its all good but for others they want something nice and valuable.

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

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09 Dec 2007 at 22:14 - 59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scary Raebbit

Should have invested more in Kleenex.

anonymous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

09 Dec 2007 at 22:27 - 60

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121

The economy was just hanging on but they just killed it with this stupid completley mindless idea of a chest which they took no thought in adding. There treating it as a single player game now and they dont care. They just want to make money quickly and if they want that they should charge monthly so we can all quit, then there dev team will be better but still utter crap.

They killed the economy for the super rich players with 10 stacks of ectos and made it good for people with 100k to their name. I'm pretty sure the number of people with 100k is more than the people with piles of ectos.

Dev121

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

09 Dec 2007 at 22:29 - 61

Quote:

Originally Posted by anonymous

They killed the economy for the super rich players with 10 stacks of ectos and made it good for people with 100k to their name. I'm pretty sure the number of people with 100k is more than the people with piles of ectos.

I disagree, if people can get hundreds of ecto then they should have the right to have the best looking and rarest items. Rest of us can have nice stats but not the rarest items, get over it.

TGgold

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Flying Gophers

Rt/P

09 Dec 2007 at 22:37 - 62

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121

Trader reset? I think I remember it but most of the rich people made from trading player to player not from some stupid anet editing.

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The trader reset was a price reset around 2 years ago probably. It made ectos cost a few hundred gold to buy. Thus, everybody bought the stock dry, held onto them for a while, and made ~20x profit from every ecto that they bought by selling to the gauged players.

And the chest was a big enough probelm that it had to be removed.

And duping was "fixed" as in, closed, but there are still tons of duped armbraces and whatnot floating around the economy driving prices up even more.

holababe

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

Goon Squad [LLJK]

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09 Dec 2007 at 22:45 - 63

I've gotten nothing really valuable from the chest (couple of elite tomes) but it's a good thing that they're allowing more people to get the rare skins.

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

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09 Dec 2007 at 23:09 - 64

maraxusofk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

San Francisco, UC Berkeley

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09 Dec 2007 at 23:28 - 65

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121

Wouldnt you rather have something for useful to use your faction with, dont ask me what because I dont get paid to make ideas

not sure about u but i dont see wut would be more useful to spend ur excess faction. dont see wut u can possibly get outside of items. tradeable armor?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121

You play for items?

if one isnt playing for items, why are u getting so worked up about gasp* items? is there something wrong with playing for items?

MoldyRiceFrenzy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Santa Rosa, CA

Confusion in The Ranks[tArD]

Mo/W

09 Dec 2007 at 23:34 - 66

meh, i dunno, i like items, but ya, these uber rare items are kinda rediculous considering they were suppose to be for hardcore pvers...

great sir s

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

The depths of Africa

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N/Me

10 Dec 2007 at 00:02 - 67

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerwyn Nasilan

B A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A H A

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

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10 Dec 2007 at 00:06 - 68

Cry Moar?

Ecklipze

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

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10 Dec 2007 at 00:07 - 69

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoldyRiceFrenzy

meh, i dunno, i like items, but ya, these uber rare items are kinda rediculous considering they were suppose to be for hardcore pvers...

Direct me to where it is written that these "uber rare" items are only intended for hardcore pvers.

lishi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

10 Dec 2007 at 00:12 - 70

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ecklipze

Direct me to where it is written that these "uber rare" items are only intended for hardcore pvers.

The fact they are rare, so only a small amount of people can have it.

Now since giving them randomly is not a good choice only the people who have gold can and is likely a hardcore will have more money then a normal.

if they where ment for everone anet would have increased their drop to x100

Ecklipze

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

R/

10 Dec 2007 at 00:20 - 71

Quote:

Originally Posted by lishi

The fact they are rare, so only a small amount of people can have it.

Now since giving them randomly is not a good choice only the people who have gold can and is likely a hardcore will have more money then a normal.

if they where ment for everone anet would have increased their drop to x100

You fail to realise that the rarity of the items are more or less still kept the same as the chances of getting a perfect weapon from the chest are very very slim. Not to mention the work involved getting the faction for the key for the chest in the first place.

Thus only a small amount of people, as you stated will be lucky enough to obtain them.

lishi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

10 Dec 2007 at 01:05 - 72

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ecklipze

You fail to realise that the rarity of the items are more or less still kept the same as the chances of getting a perfect weapon from the chest are very very slim. Not to mention the work involved getting the faction for the key for the chest in the first place.

Thus only a small amount of people, as you stated will be lucky enough to obtain them.

i wasnt speaking about the zaishen chest, i know it drop useless stuff, yesterday i used about 15 key for 2 gold item and 13 useless stuff.

you asked where was written certain item are for hardcore, i replied it was because they are rare.

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

10 Dec 2007 at 01:27 - 73

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121

High class response from a guru mod. Forum standards are as high as the games right now.

The Koalas of Justice aim to please.

macke

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Serbia-Belgrade

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10 Dec 2007 at 01:38 - 74

Who care about all that, just play THA GAME, and close this Thread and forum ,lol !

Full Metal X

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

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10 Dec 2007 at 01:41 - 75

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121

I disagree, if people can get hundreds of ecto then they should have the right to have the best looking and rarest items. Rest of us can have nice stats but not the rarest items, get over it.

Go play WoW, or any other MMO.

Negligate

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2007

Why Do You Ask?

Mo/W

10 Dec 2007 at 01:59 - 76

this forum is awesome
shows some passionate GW players that are being screwed by A.net

kobey

GW Retiree

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Sg Unknown [KATE]

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10 Dec 2007 at 02:49 - 77

I think the economy is just fine.

Super rich players can get their pandas, r7, unconditionals...
Moderately rich players can get their Crys, Eternals, Stygians...
Poor players can finally get their Elementals, Deads, Sephis...

//RogueNine

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Rogue Squadron

E/Me

10 Dec 2007 at 02:50 - 78

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faer

The Koalas of Justice aim to please.

best post evar.

Kamatsu

Moderator

Join Date: May 2005

Australia

10 Dec 2007 at 03:39 - 79

Whine/rant thread.

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