Paragons... Not worthing using its elite..
kullwarrior
Is it just me or Paragons have pretty crappy elites?
Crappiest
"Incoming!"
"The Power Is Yours!"
"It's just a flesh wound."
Cautery Signet
Angelic Bond
Stunning Strike
Anthem of Fury
Cruel Spear
Crippling Anthem
Soldier's Fury
Anthem of Guidance
Song of Purification
Focused Anger
Song of Restoration
Defensive Anthem
Survivable..
Seriously but Paragon's Elite need like major buff.
Incoming is beyond crap, The Power is Yours was crap since it's creation. Never see the light. Flesh Wound is almost the same, Cautery Signet might be useful if its shorter cast/recharge. Otherwise all you see paragon used in:
PVE:
Soldier's Fury
Focused Anger
PVP
Anthem of Guidance
Defensive Anthem
Both
Song of Purification
Song of Restoration
Crappiest
"Incoming!"
"The Power Is Yours!"
"It's just a flesh wound."
Cautery Signet
Angelic Bond
Stunning Strike
Anthem of Fury
Cruel Spear
Crippling Anthem
Soldier's Fury
Anthem of Guidance
Song of Purification
Focused Anger
Song of Restoration
Defensive Anthem
Survivable..
Seriously but Paragon's Elite need like major buff.
Incoming is beyond crap, The Power is Yours was crap since it's creation. Never see the light. Flesh Wound is almost the same, Cautery Signet might be useful if its shorter cast/recharge. Otherwise all you see paragon used in:
PVE:
Soldier's Fury
Focused Anger
PVP
Anthem of Guidance
Defensive Anthem
Both
Song of Purification
Song of Restoration
Splitisoda
You do have a point, although some of the elites are just worth it for the damage like wearying spear ithink, i use that with my 7 adren skills combo + for great justice.
The Meth
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Originally Posted by kullwarrior
Is it just me or Paragons have pretty crappy elites?
Otherwise all you see paragon used in:
PVE:
Soldier's Fury
Focused Anger
PVP
Anthem of Guidance
Defensive Anthem
Both
Song of Purification
Song of Restoration I would add Cruel spear and Angelic bond to those lists, making it 8 out of 15 decent elites, which is a pretty good ratio compared to the other professions
Otherwise all you see paragon used in:
PVE:
Soldier's Fury
Focused Anger
PVP
Anthem of Guidance
Defensive Anthem
Both
Song of Purification
Song of Restoration I would add Cruel spear and Angelic bond to those lists, making it 8 out of 15 decent elites, which is a pretty good ratio compared to the other professions
Diddy bow
Nice defensive anthem is in crappiest and pvp :P
Some of the elites the have are quite good when you think about it though, just never seen major use.
Some of the elites the have are quite good when you think about it though, just never seen major use.
Racthoh
Warriors have Dragon Slash, Eviscerate, Backbreaker, Earthshaker, Devestating Hammer.
Monks have... Word of Healing, Restore Condition, to a lesser extent Healer's Boon and Shield of Deflection.
Elementalist have Mind Blast, Blinding Surge, Savannah Heat, maybe Icy Shackles.
Necromancers have Spiteful Spirit and Corrupt Enchantment. I think minion masters use Order of Undeath.
Mesmers have Expel Hexes (though generally seen on a /me), Hex Eater Vortex, Energy Surge, and the odd Signet of Illusions guy.
Ritualist have Offering of Spirit and Weapon of Remedy.
Assassins have Moebius Strike.
Dervish have Avatar of Melandru, Arcane Zeal, Lyssa is okay, I think Ebon Dust Aura has some builds as well.
And finally Rangers have Barrage, Broad Head Arrow, Burning Arrow, Lacerate in some condition builds, and Crippling Shot.
I didn't list some because they generally appear in degenerate builds so they really aren't worth listing. Whereas the paragon... it would be easier to list the elites that don't see play. I'm not sure why some of those elites were listed as not seeing play, especially Cruel Spear. Ranged Eviscerates are bad? I'm not sure what the point of this thread is unless there is some sarcasm in the title.
Monks have... Word of Healing, Restore Condition, to a lesser extent Healer's Boon and Shield of Deflection.
Elementalist have Mind Blast, Blinding Surge, Savannah Heat, maybe Icy Shackles.
Necromancers have Spiteful Spirit and Corrupt Enchantment. I think minion masters use Order of Undeath.
Mesmers have Expel Hexes (though generally seen on a /me), Hex Eater Vortex, Energy Surge, and the odd Signet of Illusions guy.
Ritualist have Offering of Spirit and Weapon of Remedy.
Assassins have Moebius Strike.
Dervish have Avatar of Melandru, Arcane Zeal, Lyssa is okay, I think Ebon Dust Aura has some builds as well.
And finally Rangers have Barrage, Broad Head Arrow, Burning Arrow, Lacerate in some condition builds, and Crippling Shot.
I didn't list some because they generally appear in degenerate builds so they really aren't worth listing. Whereas the paragon... it would be easier to list the elites that don't see play. I'm not sure why some of those elites were listed as not seeing play, especially Cruel Spear. Ranged Eviscerates are bad? I'm not sure what the point of this thread is unless there is some sarcasm in the title.
wetsparks
you forgot [skill]spoil victor[/skill] for necros.
blue.rellik
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Quote: Monks have... Word of Healing, Restore Condition, to a lesser extent Healer's Boon and Shield of Deflection. I think Shield of Regen and Deflection are still good
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Oops, forgot about Crippling Slash. My bad, I do play paragon too much; not my fault they're the best PvE profession.
Elementalist have Mind Blast, Blinding Surge, Savannah Heat, maybe Icy Shackles.
Standstorm and in PvP or large numbers, Searing Flames are still playable. Elemental Attunement is still nice for non NF users. Quote:
I'd have to include Spellbreaker, Obsidian Flesh, etc.. if I were to include Spoil Victor. I can't think of a necro bar outside of a solo build or Shiro in Cantha that would use Spoil Victor over an SS guy.
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Deflection I agree is still decent enough, I know I've seen a few PvErs at the very least using it.
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I was talking overall, Sandstorm was good and still decent in PvE (that's why I almost always bring Herta.
Originally Posted by blue.rellik
Standstorm and in PvP or large numbers, Searing Flames are still playable. Elemental Attunement is still nice for non NF users.
Sandstorm I didn't realize still saw play, as the few HA matches I generally watch are filled with Searing Flames. SF, as I mentioned, I didn't list because in my eyes it is a degenerate build; 5-6 SFers and two monks doesn't look healthy to me. ![]() Quote:
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I've never had any good experience with AoTL except that since they AI targets low health targets first I now have full aggro on my 60 AL guy. Given that the only bar I ran AoTL on was a hero MM, he was using a superior death rune so when the enchantment was dropped they enemies were still all over my MM.
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