Everyday I see people out there Saying
"So and So Christian Guild Recruitin" "join and learn and love jesus etc etc yadayada yada" and they spam Crap like that about any Religion over and over again.
I think Religious Guilds and Promoting things like that should be against the Rules. But the Question there is why hasent it been?
First of all its all useless Crap and just pisses people off and cuases spams and floods within Zones
Second of all, aprrently only some Religious Groups/guilds etc can be promoted. I knew someone who was Muslim and he promoted Muslims to join a Guild and so they could do their thing and teachings etc etc and he was Banned for doing so. Also other Religions people I met were Suspended/Banned for doing their thing.
So the Question is why cant all this BS be against the Rules and delt with?
Becuase its stuipd to turn off your Public/Trade etc when people bitch and argue about Religion on GW its pointless Spam and unfair for those who were banned becuase they promoted Religions I guess Anet did not agree with.
/Signed or not Reasons plz!
Promoting Religions Should be Against the Rules!
Nightmare_Pwner
Sister Rosette
conditionally /signed
If it's just a (Insert Religion of Choice Here) Guild recruiting, I can't say I mind that too much. It's people who made a guild to add others with a similar interest/belief, and that's pretty much the purpose of guilds to begin with.
HOWEVER, individuals who spam that everyone in a district should follow 'x' religion because it's "the right thing to do" and other vague reasonings should at the very least receive temp bans for their behavior. It's usually very obnoxious, and wholly uncalled for.
If it's just a (Insert Religion of Choice Here) Guild recruiting, I can't say I mind that too much. It's people who made a guild to add others with a similar interest/belief, and that's pretty much the purpose of guilds to begin with.
HOWEVER, individuals who spam that everyone in a district should follow 'x' religion because it's "the right thing to do" and other vague reasonings should at the very least receive temp bans for their behavior. It's usually very obnoxious, and wholly uncalled for.
Isileth
/signed against the spamming
/notsigned against them not being able to recruit.
I dont have a problem with people looking for like minded players.
But I really really dont care if your a big fan of pokemon or have found a religion to follow.
Spamming is spamming whatever the content.
/notsigned against them not being able to recruit.
I dont have a problem with people looking for like minded players.
But I really really dont care if your a big fan of pokemon or have found a religion to follow.
Spamming is spamming whatever the content.
Likelytodie
Pretty much the same that others have said.
/not-signed against religious guilds - that's fairplay.
/signed against the spamming
/not-signed against religious guilds - that's fairplay.
/signed against the spamming
isamu kurosawa
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Everyday I see people out there Saying
"So and So Christian Guild Recruitin" "join and learn and love jesus etc etc yadayada yada" and they spam Crap like that about any Religion over and over again. I think Religious Guilds and Promoting things like that should be against the Rules. But the Question there is why hasent it been? First of all its all useless Crap and just pisses people off and cuases spams and floods within Zones Second of all, aprrently only some Religious Groups/guilds etc can be promoted. I knew someone who was Muslim and he promoted Muslims to join a Guild and so they could do their thing and teachings etc etc and he was Banned for doing so. Also other Religions people I met were Suspended/Banned for doing their thing. So the Question is why cant all this BS be against the Rules and delt with? Becuase its stuipd to turn off your Public/Trade etc when people bitch and argue about Religion on GW its pointless Spam and unfair for those who were banned becuase they promoted Religions I guess Anet did not agree with. /Signed or not Reasons plz! |
Also the supposed muslim guild you speak of sounds like a weak unlikely excuse you added to try and get your point across.
Nightmare_Pwner
anet is ban happy theyr assholes and its not an excuse lawl.
you always hear of those people getting banned on here for no apprent reason.
Anet does what they want cuase they can so makes no diffrence.
And who are you.
you always hear of those people getting banned on here for no apprent reason.
Anet does what they want cuase they can so makes no diffrence.
And who are you.
Lady Lozza
I don't disagree with religious guilds, so long as they allow ALL religions, not just the major ones.
I DO however disagree with how some guilds choose to advertise their recuitment. It is little better than community wide insults. I think this should be regulated.
I DO however disagree with how some guilds choose to advertise their recuitment. It is little better than community wide insults. I think this should be regulated.
D A R T Teh L E E T
who cares if they talk about religion its freedom of speech and that is a kind of topic that keeps public chat flowing. You either like it or dont. For the people who do they enjoy it, and like to participate in fun chat. For the people who dont can just turn all chat off or just not plpay the game. Its and online world where people are coming from all walks of life. Just deal with it.
HawkofStorms
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conditionally /signed
If it's just a (Insert Religion of Choice Here) Guild recruiting, I can't say I mind that too much. It's people who made a guild to add others with a similar interest/belief, and that's pretty much the purpose of guilds to begin with. HOWEVER, individuals who spam that everyone in a district should follow 'x' religion because it's "the right thing to do" and other vague reasonings should at the very least receive temp bans for their behavior. It's usually very obnoxious, and wholly uncalled for. |
/partly signed
Having religious people come together under 1 guild is fine. Heck, having some sort of "theme" is a great way to keep a guild together.
D A R T Teh L E E T
People come from all walks of life in guild wars because its an online game. Players should have the tolerance to except others beliefs, no matter there religion. It is ok for a guild to recruit christian or any other player with that religious background because they have preference to play in that same enviorment. This goes the same with people who only like to recruit people with r9+ or higher because of the preference of skill level. Learn to tolerate others beliefs, and if u find it annoying to look at in all chat, turn it off or just dont play the game
isamu kurosawa
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Originally Posted by Nightmare_Pwner
anet is ban happy theyr assholes and its not an excuse lawl.
you always hear of those people getting banned on here for no apprent reason. Anet does what they want cuase they can so makes no diffrence. And who are you. |
Xx_Sorin_xX
wow lets please not make anet have to make religious decisions. its a game
overblown much?
overblown much?
pumpkin pie
Don't spam, maps hey maps is spam reversed.
anyway, spamming is bad, spamming with religious/political purposes worse.
I think it is okay if you say, join my (insert religious guild name here) guild, we have cape, and full hall, does pvp, pve, is fine, but if you starts saying join my so and so guild jesus love you, god is great... then please stop.
I personally want a guild that say embraced Balthazar! MMORPG PEOPLE, KEEP RELIGIONS AND POLITICS OUT OF IT. SHEESH. THERE IS ENOUGHT OF THOSE CRAP IN REAL LIFE.
thanks.
anyway, spamming is bad, spamming with religious/political purposes worse.
I think it is okay if you say, join my (insert religious guild name here) guild, we have cape, and full hall, does pvp, pve, is fine, but if you starts saying join my so and so guild jesus love you, god is great... then please stop.
I personally want a guild that say embraced Balthazar! MMORPG PEOPLE, KEEP RELIGIONS AND POLITICS OUT OF IT. SHEESH. THERE IS ENOUGHT OF THOSE CRAP IN REAL LIFE.
thanks.
Biostem
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who cares if they talk about religion its freedom of speech and that is a kind of topic that keeps public chat flowing. You either like it or dont. For the people who do they enjoy it, and like to participate in fun chat. For the people who dont can just turn all chat off or just not plpay the game. Its and online world where people are coming from all walks of life. Just deal with it.
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As far as the religion thing goes - I could care less. Most official religious institutions disapprove of the kind of content GW includes - undead, brutal killing, other gods, etc, and so it's sort of an oxymoron to even be playing the game...
blakecraw
/signed
christian guild recruiting blah blah fine by me,
"join us and be a jesus freak," not fine
christian guild recruiting blah blah fine by me,
"join us and be a jesus freak," not fine
Alex Morningstar
Last I checked, it didn't say anything about religion in the EULA and Anet is an American company and theoretically believes or at least acknowledges that first amendment thing we have, otherwise it'd be in the EULA. In most parts of America, the 1st amendment is implied.
I don't work for Anet, so I wouldn't actually know their stance obviously.
But last I checked 100% of the trade channel and 99% of local chat is either spam or crap anyway, no loss in turning either off. Party window for your trades, it's easy, I swear.
I don't work for Anet, so I wouldn't actually know their stance obviously.
But last I checked 100% of the trade channel and 99% of local chat is either spam or crap anyway, no loss in turning either off. Party window for your trades, it's easy, I swear.
Chronos the Defiler
i would have to agree, having the "<Religion name here> recruiting <religion name here> players, we do PvE and PvP" is AOK but when i start seeing spam like "jesus is our savior!" "all praise the lord" after the recruiting line it gets annoying to say the least.
I always start heated debates with them by saying "I am a nihilist" even though i am not. :P
On another note i have seeing an increase of PLAYER names that have a similar ring to it like "Jesus Saves U" :/
I always start heated debates with them by saying "I am a nihilist" even though i am not. :P
On another note i have seeing an increase of PLAYER names that have a similar ring to it like "Jesus Saves U" :/
Biostem
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Last I checked, it didn't say anything about religion in the EULA and Anet is an American company and theoretically believes or at least acknowledges that first amendment thing we have, otherwise it'd be in the EULA. In most parts of America, the 1st amendment is implied.
I don't work for Anet, so I wouldn't actually know their stance obviously. But last I checked 100% of the trade channel and 99% of local chat is either spam or crap anyway, no loss in turning either off. Party window for your trades, it's easy, I swear. |
To me, the issue is not one of religion, but one of conduct. If a religious guild, for example, can do their recruiting politely and respectfully, then there's no issue. If they proclaim that members of other guilds are heathens or you'll go to hell for not joining their guild, then I'd say action is needed.
Your last statement is spot-on, however - most of the stuff in local/broadcast chat is garbage, and I just write it off as such...
ManadartheHealer
As stated before, religious guilds should be allowed to recruit in a proper manner.
As for "religious spam", hateful, disturbing spam of any kind should be banned, not just the religious variety.
/notsigned, because spam like that is already considered bannable behavior
As for "religious spam", hateful, disturbing spam of any kind should be banned, not just the religious variety.
/notsigned, because spam like that is already considered bannable behavior
pumpkin pie
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i would have to agree, having the "<Religion name here> recruiting <religion name here> players, we do PvE and PvP" is AOK but when i start seeing spam like "jesus is our savior!" "all praise the lord" after the recruiting line it gets annoying to say the least.
I always start heated debates with them by saying "I am a nihilist" even though i am not. :P On another note i have seeing an increase of PLAYER names that have a similar ring to it like "Jesus Saves U" :/ |
Yosh
I think I've heard maybe a few religious guilds recruiting before, and maybe a couple more arguments in local chat. It's not that big of a deal.
I'm fine with these guilds recruiting. I'm fine with character names like "Jesus love u" or whatever they chant. I'm even ok with the whole "Find Christ or go to hell!" thing in local chat. I get enough of that stuffed down my throat in real life, so it doesn't really bother me when some fanatic on an MMORPG starts yelling it at me. Some people really need to learn to ignore things....
I'm fine with these guilds recruiting. I'm fine with character names like "Jesus love u" or whatever they chant. I'm even ok with the whole "Find Christ or go to hell!" thing in local chat. I get enough of that stuffed down my throat in real life, so it doesn't really bother me when some fanatic on an MMORPG starts yelling it at me. Some people really need to learn to ignore things....
thedeadlyassassin
/not signed.
Sure it's spam an annoying, but if I don't want a jewish guy or a black guy or a mexican or a white guy or whoever in my guild, and want to single them out, why can't I? It's not a workplace, so it's not against the law to discriminate them from joining the guild.
Now, I myself don't care if you have an ass growing on your arm, but people have their beliefs and want to keep it to themselves.
If they were saying "Jesus is our savior and F*** muslims", then I'd have a problem, but if they are simply recruiting christians, muslims, jews, or whatever and no one else, let them!
Sure it's spam an annoying, but if I don't want a jewish guy or a black guy or a mexican or a white guy or whoever in my guild, and want to single them out, why can't I? It's not a workplace, so it's not against the law to discriminate them from joining the guild.
Now, I myself don't care if you have an ass growing on your arm, but people have their beliefs and want to keep it to themselves.
If they were saying "Jesus is our savior and F*** muslims", then I'd have a problem, but if they are simply recruiting christians, muslims, jews, or whatever and no one else, let them!
Negligate
"If they were saying "Jesus is our savior and F*** muslims", !"
made me lol for some reason
jihad gw style?
made me lol for some reason
jihad gw style?
lord dragon
/not signed as long as any group that has any affiliation can also do it, no matter how much it may be hated in the real world.
/signed if that does not apply.
/signed if that does not apply.
OI-812
/notsigned
Forbidding religious play/promotion is flirting with disaster. I don't like them either, but can you imagine the negative-publicity crapstorm this would produce? Anything becomes 100 times more controversial and damaging when religion is inserted into the equation.
Just let the deluded little biblethumpers have their tiny soapboxes, and ignore them.
Forbidding religious play/promotion is flirting with disaster. I don't like them either, but can you imagine the negative-publicity crapstorm this would produce? Anything becomes 100 times more controversial and damaging when religion is inserted into the equation.
Just let the deluded little biblethumpers have their tiny soapboxes, and ignore them.
Onarik Amrak
Internet Evangelism. Who knew?
Just ignore them unless they start spouting nonsense and abuse at people.
Just ignore them unless they start spouting nonsense and abuse at people.
blakecraw
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lol, i ask them if a non-Christian can join, and got no answer... i thought god loves everyone....
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MercenaryKnight
I believe a.net could be sued if they banned everyone who was making guilds for xxxxx religion. Because it'd be basically banning anyone for that religious belief. So odds are they won't do anything. We don't need a virtual holocaust.
Rushin Roulette
For all those who say its your right to say whatever you want to whoever you want... go into a police station and start insulting and harrassing the police there... see how fast your precious freedom of speech is limited.
Its absolutely no different ingame. You have freedom of speech as much as you want, as long as you dont insult or harrass people.
And to the OP.
/signed for the spaming of religious beliefs, because that should be kept to R/L or private guild/alliance chat if it is tollerated there and the purose of the guild/alliance.
/notsigned for the "<insert religion> guild recruiting, please only <insert religion> apply" or so. Thats the whole point of guilds and groups, thats where true freedom of speech cuts in. And deffinitley no restriction as to which religion should be allowed to form a guild.
Its absolutely no different ingame. You have freedom of speech as much as you want, as long as you dont insult or harrass people.
And to the OP.
/signed for the spaming of religious beliefs, because that should be kept to R/L or private guild/alliance chat if it is tollerated there and the purose of the guild/alliance.
/notsigned for the "<insert religion> guild recruiting, please only <insert religion> apply" or so. Thats the whole point of guilds and groups, thats where true freedom of speech cuts in. And deffinitley no restriction as to which religion should be allowed to form a guild.
Skye Marin
Spamming is spamming.
Slander is slander.
Anything else is just fine. Folks should be free to make whatever guilds and recruit however they'd like as long as they don't spam or slander.
Slander is slander.
Anything else is just fine. Folks should be free to make whatever guilds and recruit however they'd like as long as they don't spam or slander.
Kusandaa
I've been caught up in a couple religious debates, entertaining but generally gives a bad view on your opposite view. Gets too personal. So yeah... I don't like having stuff shoved down my throat, and it doesn't matter who you are and what thing you're shoving. Open your minds a bit 
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I don't mind belief-based guilds though. First of all, a guild needs something in common to stick together, may it be an all-necro guild, or an all-Christian guild, or a PvP-only guild. However, I wouldn't see an anti-Christian guild recruiting. I guess as long as you don't offend, or create in the intention to offend other people... everything goes.
.I don't mind belief-based guilds though. First of all, a guild needs something in common to stick together, may it be an all-necro guild, or an all-Christian guild, or a PvP-only guild. However, I wouldn't see an anti-Christian guild recruiting. I guess as long as you don't offend, or create in the intention to offend other people... everything goes.
pumpkin pie
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Well you were wrong. Dead wrong!
/shameless+1 |
The Christian guild not want to answer my question is their right to do so, which if they had answered yes, I would have join, because i was thinking that I don't have to use a swearing filter in the guild chat anymore. but sadly they did not answer. I consequently joined some other guild, I DID NOT HAVE A GUILD AT THAT TIME, see... I really did want to join them. but hey, they did not want to have none-Christian in their guild and it is up to them, their choice and their lost, I give guildies lots of materials and greens and lets just say when ever my storage is full I give stuffs away I also help guildies do so mission all the time, its their lost.
God loving every one is my point of view, so what is the wrong in that?
Lady Raenef
/signed
I'm tired of it. It should be against the rules. I'm tired of conservatives going it's okay to say "I LOVE JESUS" but it's wrong if you say "I HATE JESUS."
My Dervish is named Atheist Dervish for the reasons of not believe in the "Gods of Guild Wars." However, I'm afraid he'll get banned. Christians will attack me for his name. It's annoying.
I'm tired of it. It should be against the rules. I'm tired of conservatives going it's okay to say "I LOVE JESUS" but it's wrong if you say "I HATE JESUS."
My Dervish is named Atheist Dervish for the reasons of not believe in the "Gods of Guild Wars." However, I'm afraid he'll get banned. Christians will attack me for his name. It's annoying.
Vinraith
Spamming sucks, but people can recruit whoever they want as far as I'm concerned. I'd just as soon know that the guild I was considering joining was populated by the kind of Christian that feels the need to broadcast that he's a Christian every five minutes... so I can find a different one to join.
Lady Raenef
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I'd just as soon know that the guild I was considering joining was populated by the kind of Christian that feels the need to broadcast that he's a Christian every five minutes... so I can find a different one to join.
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OI-812
Wonder if these biblethumper guilds have any Necros in their ranks?
Lady Raenef
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Wonder if these biblethumper guilds have any Necros in their ranks?
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OI-812
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You know, I had a friend of mine who played Guild Wars once. Then, she said God came to her in her dreams and told me Guild Wars was against him. So, she quit. All her work, she left.
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No offense Raenef, and I realize I may be making a statement of the obvious here, but... your friend is bat-spit crazy.
wetsparks
This is kind of ridiculous. Guilds can recruit however they want, saying whatever they want unless it is slanderous (wouldn't it be libel since it is written and not actually spoken). So Christian guild recruiting bla bla bla Jesus loves you is fine. don't like it, go to a different district/turn off all chat. If it was Christian guild recruiting bla bla bla Muslims go burn in hell, then there would and should be problems.
gremlin
I would never join a guild just because they were claiming they were Christian, I am a Christian but I dont feel then need to run around a computer game looking for converts.
Just as many of the countries in the world that call themselves democratic are nothing of the sort, many "Christian" groups are anything but Christian in their dealings.
Best way to find a guild is to play with a few of their membership for a while before joining.
Thankfully I havn't come accross any of these groups as yet, I am hoping thay are all on the American server and wont get to the European one for some time yet.
Must have a word with some of my Pagan friends, and see if they are starting a multi pantheonic religeous guild.
No politicians though, we must have some standards
Just as many of the countries in the world that call themselves democratic are nothing of the sort, many "Christian" groups are anything but Christian in their dealings.
Best way to find a guild is to play with a few of their membership for a while before joining.
Thankfully I havn't come accross any of these groups as yet, I am hoping thay are all on the American server and wont get to the European one for some time yet.
Must have a word with some of my Pagan friends, and see if they are starting a multi pantheonic religeous guild.
No politicians though, we must have some standards