Automatically take our your minipet

tebuddy

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2007

P/

I like minipets as much as the next guy, but why own a minipet if you cant remember to take it out wherever you go?

A minipet comes out when:
- You double click on it

A minipet goes away when:
You zone to a new area
You zone into or out of a town or outpost
You begin or resign from an area/mission/quest

Suggestion:

Right click >
- Automatically take out (Checked/Unchecked)


This way, my minipet will come out whenever I enter a new area, and not when I come to my senses halfway through a mission. Those who only wish to take them out when they want can still double click it.

Rinadan Farhunt

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

In the land of the horny gollochs.

To Rise From The Ashes [Rise]

R/W

Of all the pointless ideas on this forum, this is waaaaay up there.

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

Ummm...

/signed, but it's rather pointless

C0Dlike

C0Dlike

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

[Muse]

D/

/signed although some more important stuff should be taken care of

MywayFtw

MywayFtw

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

Glob Of Ectospasm [GoE]

Rt/

Pointless.

So /signed.

Squishy ftw

Squishy ftw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Your backline

W/

/signed because it is rather annoying the way it is now.

pkodyssey

pkodyssey

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

In a cardboard box with Internet

The Order of the Frozen Tundra (TofT)

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This is so unimportant and unnecessary that I am positive Anet will introduce it.

Anet = Master of irrelevant updates

Noel Hope

Noel Hope

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

America

[SBP]

Mo/

/signed

Pointless? ... It is a good idea. It would be helpful to forgetful players and simply more handy for those who are not forgetful.

This feature would also (most likely) be easy for A-net to implement.

Aera

Aera

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Galactic President Superstar Mc [awsm]

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Obviously, having a minipet out will increase your chances of getting through the mission, therefore is it of utmost importance that this update should be implemented!

...stop being lazy. If that minipet matters that much to you, you wouldn't forget about it either.

/don'twasteanet'sprecioustime

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

/signed

As long as it only counts instanced zones, and doesn't automatically come out in towns/outposts. Otherwise the first 20 people in a town will have minipets shown and everyone else will be left out.

Shadow Spirit

Shadow Spirit

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Chicago

your cat eats dog food [pup]

N/E

meh... /notsigned

If you love your pet you wont forget him.

=DNC=Trucker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

TLA

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Spirit
meh... /notsigned

If you love your pet you wont forget him.
We have a winner

Noel Hope

Noel Hope

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

America

[SBP]

Mo/

I do not believe this is an issue of whether or not a player “loves” their mini-pet. I adore miniature pets. However, even I occasionally forget to take out my mini-pet.

I think it can easily slip anyone’s mind to take a mini-pet back out with all the zoning that occurs during quests and moving from town to town, etc.

It would simply be a handy feature that would probably be fairly easy for A-net to implement. I do not see a reason why we should not have the feature. I also do not see how implementing this small feature would take up (or “waste”) A-net’s time.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Noel Hope
/signed

Pointless? ... It is a good idea. It would be helpful to forgetful players and simply more handy for those who are not forgetful.

This feature would also (most likely) be easy for A-net to implement.
I agree. /signed
Some people on guru are just WAY to jaded and flame everything nowadays.

Interface improvements are always helpful. Did you "need" the tempelete system to load up builds? No. You could have always done it manually. An option to auto deploy minipets aren't "needed," but it would be convienent (which is the point of any inovation, in and out of game).

Yunalesca Reborn

Yunalesca Reborn

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2007

America

[SBP]

Mo/

/signed

Personally, I play for an unreal amount of time every day, and still manage to sometimes forget to bring out my mini. Maybe that's just me, but for them to do this would be great. Besides, it's probably so easy for A-net to do; they won't even have to wake up in the morning.

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

/notsigned

Forgotten about the 20 pet in town limit? Those who dont really want them out will take those spots you know. Would be good if the limit was gone.

Noel Hope

Noel Hope

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

America

[SBP]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diddy bow
/notsigned

Forgotten about the 20 pet in town limit? Those who dont really want them out will take those spots you know. Would be good if the limit was gone.
That is why we suggested that it be optional that they be taken out automatically.

For example, a player could check or un-check a box (located in the options menu or character interface) that would allow Miniature Pets to be automatically taken out, or not automatically taken out. This way, you could still double click on your miniatures to take them out if you do not want it to be taken out automatically.

tenshi_strife

tenshi_strife

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

in sardelac getting yelled at.

Angels of Strife[Aoc]

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sure /signed it is kinda pointless but it would be nice so i could have a mini out, as it is now i just keep my minis in storage to show them off in town cause i just forget about them in exploables anyways but with this i would be able to have my fav mini with me in explorables

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Noel Hope
That is why we suggested that it be optional that they be taken out automatically.

For example, a player could check or un-check a box (located in the options menu or character interface) that would allow Miniature Pets to be automatically taken out, or not automatically taken out. This way, you could still double click on your miniatures to take them out if you do not want it to be taken out automatically.
Yes it may be optional, but its like turning your cape off, its optional but you rarley change it, i dont see a reason why i wouldnt check this and never change it again. I think it would be a maricle to get your mini into say lions arch if this was introduced, there would be 20 minis round the clock in busy cities a guarentee it, the only reson you can get your mini out there atm is beacuse people come and go/ change districts, but if there are already 20 out, and one leaves, then what happens?

tebuddy

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2007

P/

Quote:
I think it would be a maricle to get your mini into say lions arch if this was introduced, there would be 20 minis round the clock in busy cities a guarentee it, the only reson you can get your mini out there atm is beacuse people come and go/ change districts, but if there are already 20 out, and one leaves, then what happens?
Catastrophic system failure? No, your minipet just wouldn't come out. I for one, spend a maximum of 1-20 minutes in any major port trying to sell or buy something. If you need your minipet in lions arch d1 that bad, then just wait for a spot.

Quote:
Of all the pointless ideas on this forum, this is waaaaay up there.
heh, I bet you thought the hate train would follow you and keep going, but not this time

Quote:
Obviously, having a minipet out will increase your chances of getting through the mission, therefore is it of utmost importance that this update should be implemented!

...stop being lazy. If that minipet matters that much to you, you wouldn't forget about it either.
Well obviously being a cynical unhelpful part of thread doesn't help the community one bit. but if you like it, and it makes you feel better...

See what I mean? I dont need a reason, if something is going to be there, why not make it easy to use and manage as possible?

Quote:
As long as it only counts instanced zones, and doesn't automatically come out in towns/outposts. Otherwise the first 20 people in a town will have minipets shown and everyone else will be left out.
I gave this some thought, especially about afks sitting in towns with there minipets out (like it doesn't happen now XD). But seeing how areas are either so active or so dead, it shouldn't be a problem.

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

/Signed

I often forget.

Noel Hope

Noel Hope

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

America

[SBP]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diddy bow
the only reson you can get your mini out there atm is beacuse people come and go/ change districts
Are you trying to say, that if this new feature is implemented, that players would stop entering towns/leaving towns, changing districts, etc.? That does not make any sense.

If this feature was implemented, it would not create any adverse affects on the amount of miniatures in towns. People would still enter/leave towns, change districts, zone, etc. which frees up spaces for more miniatures in towns.

Besides, taking out miniatures in even the busiest/most populated towns (take Lion's Arch district one for example) has never a problem.

Yosh

Yosh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

California

Zero Mercy

Mo/

/signed.

Why not?

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Noel Hope
Are you trying to say, that if this new feature is implemented, that players would stop entering towns/leaving towns, changing districts, etc.? That does not make any sense.

If this feature was implemented, it would not create any adverse affects on the amount of miniatures in towns. People would still enter/leave towns, change districts, zone, etc. which frees up spaces for more miniatures in towns.

Besides, taking out miniatures in even the busiest/most populated towns (take Lion's Arch district one for example) has never a problem.
I think you misunderstood me. Take Kamadan district one for example, always exesses of 100 people, and lets face it who deosn't have a mini? And who would'nt they turn on the feature? No reson not to. People will still come and go ofc, and thats part of the problem.

As it is now AFK'ers and people selling stuff proberly dont have their minis out all the time, as you said there is no problem getting a mini out as it is now. If the idea got introduced there would CONSTANTLY be 20 minis in the district becasuse 100 people, thats 100 minis all set to come out, and as one guy leaves another person already in the district who effectivly has the mini "queued" and will be put in as soon as, meaning only those in the district for a very long time get to place there mini.

Unless you are saying there will never be more than 20 people in kamadan at any one time who would turn this feature on, i would turn it on, obviously everyone who signed this would turn it on, how many more would it need? Not having it on would just make it even harder for the mini to come out.

Imagine there was a 20 person limit on who could display armor with a feature similar to that suggested, would you ever keep it off?

Noel Hope

Noel Hope

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

America

[SBP]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diddy bow
I think you misunderstood me. Take Kamadan district one for example, always exesses of 100 people, and lets face it who deosn't have a mini? And who would'nt they turn on the feature? No reson not to. People will still come and go ofc, and thats part of the problem.

As it is now AFK'ers and people selling stuff proberly dont have their minis out all the time, as you said there is no problem getting a mini out as it is now. If the idea got introduced there would CONSTANTLY be 20 minis in the district becasuse 100 people, thats 100 minis all set to come out, and as one guy leaves another person already in the district who effectivly has the mini "queued" and will be put in as soon as, meaning only those in the district for a very long time get to place there mini.

Unless you are saying there will never be more than 20 people in kamadan at any one time who would turn this feature on, i would turn it on, obviously everyone who signed this would turn it on, how many more would it need? Not having it on would just make it even harder for the mini to come out.

Imagine there was a 20 person limit on who could display armor with a feature similar to that suggested, would you ever keep it off?
The benefits of this simple and handy feature far outweigh the unlikely pitfalls you are fabricating.

The amount of people who take out miniatures in town is surprisingly small as it is now. Taking a miniature out in an extremely crowded town is not even the slightest problem.

You honestly think that every person who does not take miniature pets out in town now would suddenly be spontaneously compelled to do so with the implementation of this new feature?? I don’t think so.

Besides, how much would it bother you if your point of contention would come true? Say there are 20 mini pets constantly in Lion's Arch district one or Kamadan district one. Would it kill if you could not bring your miniature pet out into these districts 100% of the time?

The handiness of this feature would far outweigh the unrealistic downsides that you say could happen.

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Noel Hope
You honestly think that every person who does not take miniature pets out in town now would suddenly be spontaneously compelled to do so with the implementation of this new feature??
Yup.

Compare your title and your rank emote. Everyone in town has a title but how often do you /rank? Minis and titles are quite similar, both are for prestige and for the most part have no purpose (i know displaying titles have certain effects but if they didnt they would display somthing else anyway). The diffrence is now that titles are displayed forever and minis are displayed when activated (similar to /rank only untill you leave a zone rather than a few seconds). Why not just tell the mini to auto activate check is like why not display your title, even if it sucks and you dont really care for it, still no reson not to it holds prestige just like you mini and requires only one click and you can leave it that way forever. Imagine you had to turn on your title same way you turn on your mini, you would only bother with the good ones right? And even then not all the time.

Of cource limiting it to 20 titles per town would make a massive diffrence, i dont see why minis would be any diffrent.

Noel Hope

Noel Hope

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

America

[SBP]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diddy bow
Yup.

Compare your title and your rank emote. Everyone in town has a title but how often do you /rank? Minis and titles are quite similar, both are for prestige and for the most part have no purpose (i know displaying titles have certain effects but if they didnt they would display somthing else anyway). The diffrence is now that titles are displayed forever and minis are displayed when activated (similar to /rank only untill you leave a zone rather than a few seconds). Why not just tell the mini to auto activate check is like why not display your title, even if it sucks and you dont really care for it, still no reson not to it holds prestige just like you mini and requires only one click and you can leave it that way forever. Imagine you had to turn on your title same way you turn on your mini, you would only bother with the good ones right? And even then not all the time.

Of cource limiting it to 20 titles per town would make a massive diffrence, i dont see why minis would be any diffrent.
Comparing titles and rank emotes to miniature pets? You are arguing with tangents.
As I stated before, it would be a simple and handy feature. You seem to be over-reacting and creating worse-case possible scenarios for the sake of arguing.

While miniature pets are indeed somewhat an item of “prestige,” this new feature would not result in everyone opting to take out their miniatures in towns.

Say your worst-case scenario did come true. Let me ask again, why would it bother you so much? Or, again, are you simply arguing now for the sake of arguing? Would you be devastated if you could not take your miniature out in Kamadan district one 100% of the time? In the unlikely event your worst-case scenario came true, it would only be a small downside.

tebuddy

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2007

P/

So your primary argument against it, is that to many people would use it?

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by tebuddy
So your primary argument against it, is that to many people would use it?
Looks like it.
Kinda a strange arguement.

I mean, that's kinda the point of adding an interface update. People would use it.

tebuddy

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2007

P/

Quote:
I mean, that's kinda the point of adding an interface update. People would use it.
Exactly, theres no good reason not to add it, unless they decide to not add anymore ui features.

ThienThan

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

Very nice idea! I love it!

/sign

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

But there is a good reason not to add it, the reason why i post is to show you of it .

I rekon this would cause way more bad than good. This is because as it is now if you want your mini pet out, double click it and you never need to worry about the limit, so where is the problem? If you forget your mini do you really want it out anyway? People who remeber it (accually want their mini out) should have priority. This idea risks the a-net classic of fixing that which isnt really broken. I would personally prefer people who can be botherd to double click there pet when they want it out get the chance to show there mini over those who has been AFK'ed the longest, to bad im alone on that one .

Basicly its obvious anyone who has a mini would turn this on, everyone in this thread would, which already makes 20ish already, what is one good reason why not to turn this on? Is there more than 20 people in major cities with a mini? Yep. So thats why i think this would mean a constant stream of 20 minis in a district at anyone time, you are in a queue of 100 people when you enter this district

Im saying as long as the 20 mini pet limit is there this isnt vaiable inside of towns.

tebuddy

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2007

P/

So from what I can tell, your fear is that the minipet limit will always be reached in major towns and outposts.

I think that has no base, every major town has many many districts each with hundreds of people constantly switching, joining, and leaving. As far as I can predict, business would go on as usual. Not to mention that it would now provide other minipet owners the ability to have their minis out when they are in any town/outpost/explorable area, and not just in the major towns.

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

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/signed, I'm so forgetful but I like to have at least one pet with me.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

/signed for explorable areas.

This would be a clusterfest in high population towns where there is a miniature limit.

I Phoenix I

I Phoenix I

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Elite Lords of Chaos [LoC]

R/

If you really care about your Mini that much, you would manually take it out all the time.

Otherwise, you don't care enough.

/not-signed

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

It may be pointless, but it's quite annoying not having a thing that is supposed to follow you actually following you.

tebuddy

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2007

P/

Quote:
Otherwise, you don't care enough.
Its human nature to only be able to handle a certain number of tasks at one given moment. You cant tell me that you can easily remember your minipet every time.

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by I Phoenix I
If you really care about your Mini that much, you would manually take it out all the time.

Otherwise, you don't care enough.

/not-signed

I'm just going to outright say this.


You fail.

warcrap

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

somewhere on earth!

E/Me

/signed

omfg that is so annoying i hope it happens so i dont have to keep taking it out.