Are Zaishen Keys Worth it

papryk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Nancy

The Autonomy[?????????]

Quote:
Originally Posted by dont feel no pain
Worth it if:

You've unlocked everything and play pvp and get lots of free keys

Not Worth It:

If you buy them
totally agree

Redvex

Redvex

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

R/

Make a 6k point at day by elite zaishen and buy 1key at day. It's simple

Sjeng

Sjeng

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

in my GH

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Um Yeah
Zaishen keys are definitely worth buying at 4-5k per.
says someone who's selling them because he/she has a surplus of Balth faction. Of course, I'd do the same.
5k balth = 1 key right? I'm a 100% PvE player, I'm not into PvP, and therefore suck at it, and therefore unwilling to play it.
But even I can make 2k balthazar a day in under 20 minutes by doing the zaishen pvp training twice every day.
I used to do that for unlocking skills, and then acquiring them with tomes.
Now I'm gonna spend these on zaishen keys, sell those for 4.5k, and make 9k for every 10k balthazar.
9k = 9 skills @ trainer >>> 10 unlocked skills plus 10 tomes @ 500g/µ (5k) IF you manage to get any.
I love these keys, and I hope people will stay stupid enough to buy them @ 4-5k each, for lousy drops. =D
I know I'll never buy or use them myself
</sarcasm>

Redvex

Redvex

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sjeng
says someone who's selling them because he/she has a surplus of Balth faction. Of course, I'd do the same.
5k balth = 1 key right? I'm a 100% PvE player, I'm not into PvP, and therefore suck at it, and therefore unwilling to play it.
But even I can make 2k balthazar a day in under 20 minutes by doing the zaishen pvp training twice every day.
I used to do that for unlocking skills, and then acquiring them with tomes.
Now I'm gonna spend these on zaishen keys, sell those for 4.5k, and make 9k for every 10k balthazar.
9k = 9 skills @ trainer >>> 10 unlocked skills plus 10 tomes @ 500g/µ (5k) IF you manage to get any.
I love these keys, and I hope people will stay stupid enough to buy them @ 4-5k each, for lousy drops. =D
I know I'll never buy or use them myself
</sarcasm>
2k under 20 min? too slow...with Elite Zaishen 6k point under 20 minutes

papryk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Nancy

The Autonomy[?????????]

isnt 2k the limit per day on zaishen?

Faith Angelis

Faith Angelis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

UK

Quote:
Originally Posted by papryk
isnt 2k the limit per day on zaishen?
Zaishen Challenge, yes. Zaishen Elite goes to 6k.

super strokey

super strokey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Soviet Canuckistan

N/

Hey so what do creme brulle sell for now? Im thinking of going and grabing some for the sweet tooth title as they should be cheap as hell now shouldnt they?

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by super strokey
Hey so what do creme brulle sell for now? Im thinking of going and grabing some for the sweet tooth title as they should be cheap as hell now shouldnt they?
People are paying 5k for them (basically)

Ec]-[oMaN

Ec]-[oMaN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Ont.

[DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]

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I've burned through at least 40+keys and sold 20+. Of over 40+keys not one item dropped that was worth over 10k and mods on the items were never maxed either, you stand to probably make more selling the keys then hoping for a decent drop worth maybe 100K+ some odd ecto if you're lucky. If I sold the 60 keys I'd rake in 300k enough to buy whatever rare item I wanted anyways.

Living La Vida Loca

Living La Vida Loca

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2007

don't compare to each other about what u got, look at the market, that chest is killing some of the remaining rare skin and fun of game play. ppl use to spend hours in ha, uw, to beat all the quest or other team to have a chance of getting rare item drop from the chest, it takes time, skill and exp. but now ppl just ab(mostly), ra or ta, some even leech there and able to get lots of keys by the end of the day, and if they are lucky, there will be a rare drop out of nowhere. some of them won't even make it to a ha team, or be able to beat uw or other elite area, they spent time alright, but do they really deserve to have the rare skin?
p.s. i still respect ppl that actually enjoy pvp and ppl that farm or trade for the rare skin

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

People who still care about rare skins being "uber" rare are setting themselves up for disapointment.

The longer the game goes on, the less rare a skin will be. That's just common sense. I think most people have dealt with it by now.

Dallcingi

Dallcingi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

The Black Parades [死人死]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ec]-[oMaN
If I sold the 60 keys I'd rake in 300k enough to buy whatever rare item I wanted anyways.
That is what I am doing... never opened the chest, and probably never will unless keys go less than 1k (so its worth just openning). I sell for 4k per and it really adds up.


Quote:
Originally Posted by mordakai
The longer the game goes on, the less rare a skin will be. That's just common sense.
QFT.
Kinda like the longer time goes on, the older you get haha.

Living La Vida Loca

Living La Vida Loca

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
The longer the game goes on, the less rare a skin will be. That's just common sense. I think most people have dealt with it by now.
after more than 2 years of game play, how many crystalline sword was on sale before this chest pop up.(it's not a question for u, most of the high end user know the number)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
People who still care about rare skins being "uber" rare are setting themselves up for disapointment.
by "care about rare skins", u mean ppl still want to buy them or ppl still holding them? i'm either.

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
People who still care about rare skins being "uber" rare are setting themselves up for disapointment.

The longer the game goes on, the less rare a skin will be. That's just common sense. I think most people have dealt with it by now.
As much as I want to deny the fact, I have to realize that it's very true.

But isn't the chest a tad bit of a slap in the face to all the people who farmed elite areas to get these skins, and now they're just readily available?

Im Using The Force

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

Primal Fire

N/

heh There are 3 rare items in the game Kanaxai & Roller Beetle Mini Pets & Roller Beetle Transmogrifers.
The Zaishen keys have led to an increase in leeching in AB...where reporting someone for leeching serves no real purpose aside from calling them out as a leecher to the people in that particular game.

azizul1975

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

GMT+8

The Elite Guard of Tyria (TEGO)

Mo/

beware.... i saw a person scamming at kamadan, selling zaishen token 200gold each in a bunch of 5 , saying u can exchange 5 zaishen token for 1 zaishen key key... i think some people fell prey for it.

Harrier's haste

Harrier's haste

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

ViLE

R/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by azizul1975
beware.... i saw a person scamming at kamadan, selling zaishen token 200gold each in a bunch of 5 , saying u can exchange 5 zaishen token for 1 zaishen key key... i think some people fell prey for it.
And you get crap out of these chest too. They aren't designed to be "gold givers". Just something people spend our extra Balth. Points on.

Plus the keys are already dropped 1.7k(3.3k atm), so it's probably gonna drop to 1k a piece.

wooky

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

BOOM

E/A

destroys the price of rare drops.. this game used to be great 2-3 years ago.

Queenie

Queenie

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

I've bought 3 Zaishen keys and I've gotten total trash drops out of the chest.
So no, I don't think they're worth it.

Solus Spartan

Solus Spartan

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2007

Australia

[Lawl]

Mo/

No effort required, chance of rares. The chest is stupid, not thought out and destroyed the economy for the majority.

Moral55

Moral55

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

SNOW

E/Me

really? I don't think there worth it at all.

Catrion-Leyt

Catrion-Leyt

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

In this remote place called hell.

Archons Ascendant [Arch]

R/E

These things are, quite simply, not worth paying gold for. But if you've got Balthazar faction to spend, you can use it on the keys and possibly get a nice item. I'd never pay my cash for a key, but if I can get it for free, why not? It's a nice little bonus, in my opinion.

Thorondor Port

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

British Columbia

W/

I think these keys are great. To me its just a reward for people that just like to pvp with some side pve for fun. So once you unlock all yours skills you have something to spend balthazar on.

Thanks Anet

Dronte

Dronte

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Zaishen Chest made me do PvP instead of... PvP. Lol. Actually, its good when I cant get a glad point in RA in 2 hours, but I still get balth faction->I get key->I actually get something (even if its a firewater, which is really maddening )
Back to the topic Zaishen Keys arent worth 4-5k gold imo, but they worth 5k balthazar faction thats why I never buy keys, only use my balth faction.