Oh noez..not just another thread about LS/LDoA XD

As the Topic sais ...

but I'M at the opinion, that those 2 Titles need finally a fix ...those 2 titles are somewhat of bad concepted....that it makes sick, especially when you see as player over time now..that the Legendary Survivor Titles gets from time to time ever more easier to receive, while nothing gets changed on LDoA to fix finaly the problem about that title being bad concepted and destroying the games fun..letting the gamer's know, that they exists something in the game....that you will never have...in kind of which choice you took. either if you go now farming exp safely via Kilroy Boxing Runs and max the title in less then 10 hours oO (before Eotn was out..it took at least like several das, if you were very well prepared and decked with massively loads of lightbringer scrolls)

AND for LDoA u need ages of deathleveling oO .... which is the big problem about LDoA..not to mention..that deathlevelign has absolutely nothing to do with defending Ascalon.....or what is please legendary of dieing hundreds to thousands of times vs one and a same monster..until it get strong enough to give you some crappy Exp points oO ??? and then repeating this absolutely annoying boring UBERGRIND...until your finally Lvl 20 in a TUTORIAL

Come on !!! there are really better ways of rewarding people, which stay in pre searing for logn time ... it hasn't to be a bad concepted title ...
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I want to see finally getting the LS/LDoA title getting FIXED.... of those teams of anet find the time..to bring updates for such stupid non interesting things, like changing any buttons in the online store or fixing bugs of quests and skills..then those teams should really also find the time to fix finally the issue about the LS/LDoA title, giving those titles a better thought out concept, that works better and which don't neutralize each other in kind of their requirements to make it possible, to receive both titles...to have a max number of 35 maxable titles (which could in the end also result maybe in a new highest tier for the KoaBD title, getting something new between the mahagoni and the god amongst mere mortals)
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Also I'm for the change..that titles..anything, also meaning the account based titles shouldn't be able to be shown in the pre searing tutorial or any other tutorial areas....

tutorial areas ARE meant for beginners and not for gw playing absolute old rabbits, which want to show in the tutorials only with their titles..how pro they are...in the tutorial areas..everyone shold be shown in the same way ..
no one can show titles, if they have some.. the levels of the characters doesn't get shown (u see them only, when in group search- instead of x/x ...u see then for example in the group search x/x-10)
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LDoA needs to be changed:

The title must become a Non Presearing Title....players have to defend REALLY Ascalon..so that the name of the title will fianlly fit.
Give us several Elite Quests, something similar to the Mallyx Quest Row, which you can receive after finishing the prophecies Campaign ..like for example a extra hard new Titan Quest, letting the Lich send also a Titan Army to the Ruins of Ascalon City, to kill the heroes there, which use it as outpost, something like a little "ragequit order" of the lich, when he dies then he comes of with a sentence, saying, that he has a hidden titan army send to ascalon, while they fight here or something ...anythign like this what reasons the implemention of such a new elite quest..
make it a quest...playable by 12-16 people, than you can create a real epic battle vs titans thats worth the title. start is the great wall...when u click there then an quest npc..people land in a randomous 12-16 man group ^^
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LS has to be changed:

not very much, but old characters, which have they registry date older, than the date of the implementaton of the titles should be able to reset one time only for a temporaly time their death counter to 0 for 1 try to receive LS ..
and when they die..people had their chance and their death counters will revert back to their old state+1 death... like as when you set for your PC's a recovery point
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Now the important point of this Thread... what should be the new reward for perma presearing Characters, when not the title ?

There are loads of different things...

Special Equipments, which are only usable in presearing, which your character will be able to receive, once the character has stayed over for example 1 Month of actual playing in presearing ... (and don't count for HoM)

Special Armors, that are only wearable in presearing, which you could receive, once your character stays over 3 Months of actual playing in presearing ...(and don't count for HoM)

Special customized Event head gears, that can be received only via presearing for staying longer than 6 months of actual playing with your char in presearing.
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sure..this would mean some work and is in the end alot more work..than giving all simple only a very bad concepted title just for reaching lvl 20 after massively UBERGRIND of deathleveling...but in the end its alot more rewarding perma pre characters..then this title

or give perma pre characters..when they reach level 20 instead of the title an own emote ...similar to the heros emote.. but just somethign different..i'm for example for an emote..showing gailes FROG jumping around ^^
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Please Anet..if you care really for your game..show us..that you can fix somehow the problems about LS/LDoA..like you try to fix all other things like bugs ect. too....and when you have tiem to fix Bugs..then you can find the time for fixing those 2 titles too ...

/not signed for special rewards
/not signed fo changing LDoA
/signed for you to stop making threads

I mean seriously. You have some bad bad bad bad bad ideas.

LDoA is a grind title. It has no special functions. Deal with it.

I'll /sign that

QFT, also no need to change the titles.

Pretty much the feeling I got, thank you.

/signed to limit the number of Phoenix Tears-es posts to one per day.... err.. make that a week.

Shut Up!

Titles mean nothing to anyone, but YOU. It does not effect how well you play the game, with the exception of a handfull of titles like Lightbringer. Even then, it is restricted to a small part of the game where it makes a difference.

If YOU want these titles, get them. If you can't, nobody cares. These titles do not mean anything to anyone but YOU.

Shut Up!

Maybe, just maybe you can take the hint. How many posts have you made about this crap? How many times have people told you it was stupid? How many people have disagreed with you? NOBODY CARES BUT YOU

/signed for no posts by Phoenix on this crap anymore.

/signed for no posts by Phoenix on this crap anymore.

Lets lynch him while we are at it!!

He pretty much summed up all I'd say to this, minus the flaming.

/notsigned.

If you don't like the titles, don't go for them. Pretty simple...

Since nobody here is interested in improving on the idea and would rather bash Phoenix's head in, I've come to throw in my two cents.

Here is the location of a thread for the Survivor title change that I most support.

Here is a thread concerning LDoA, from which I'd like to quote someone.

I agree mainly with what I've bolded: It was meant purely for characters who were staying in pre-Searing. But wait... Why do pre-Searing characters need titles? Why should they have titles?

LDoA doesn't need to disappear from a character once they leave pre-Searing. LDoA shouldn't even exist. Like Phoenix said, the name of the title and the method of achieving it are almost perfect opposites, and like I argue, it has no purpose nor meaning in pre-Searing, which is the group it was intended for.

Ouch...so much hate...*runs away from it all*

Okay I can see where the OP and the posters are coming from, but here's my 2 cents:

/signed for making Legendary Survivor easier
/signed for fixing LDoA (or deleting it altogether
/notsigned for making account titles hidden in Pre-Searing

/notsigned
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just leave it be

what Shayne Hawke said.

Gratuitous flaming ftl.

If you don't want to do the grind, don't do it. I've posted this elsewhere tons of times, LDoA honors what people were doing anyway. They were leveling their characters to Level 20 purely for the heck of it. The presearing community is a world unto itself, and all the post-searing hate is completely misdirected for they don't try to understand Pre-searing. It may be a tutorial to you, but it's the most rewarding gameplay experience to others.

Legendary Survivor, I wouldn't mind the ability to have one shot on it. I have a Necromancer with 7.2 million experience that would be quite challenging to grind 1.3375 million experience with, especially considering she's LSH, Legendary Guardian, and Tyrian Vanquisher (very few freebie xp's left).

i have not seen a *make it easier* thread that you have not personally started (4 just recently right?) or signed with enthusiasm

dont like it dont do it.

if you cant make the drok run have a *friend* whine make it easier

I just want them both for same character. Anet please add a quest that spawns lvl 13 creatures in Pre.

/not signed though

*yawn*

s'up about this? ah yeah the usual "change pls" thread

i'll go for the low level on care-o-meter as well, duh

you want titles? dont like this one? do others...
you dont need that specific one for KOABD

I know your logic behind that, and I agree to that being a nice addition.

But as lovely as that is, it would create unfairness between the people who do and don't have Prophecies. One character that has the chance at LDoA and LS has one more title open to them than anyone that can only get just LS.

Edit: Response to Phoenix's lower post -

You're not fixing the flame war by retorting in an aggressive manner.

Nor by "ignoring" and flaming just about every person who responded.

QFT, except that LDoA + LS = Unfairness to non-Tyrians. LDoA =/= Title would be my fix.

*ignores stupid flame kiddies and starts here with this*


uhm, ever heard of people, which are "perfectionists" ?
People which want to complete games for 101% fully and are not happy, anil they have seen everything, that can be seen, untl they have unlocked everything, what can be unlocked and until they have at least gained with their main characters everything of game content, what is gainable...


fact is..the concept around those 2 titles ist just BAD made and totally sucks ... all other titles work absolutely well and are good cncepted in their own ways...but only LS and LDoA dont ...

no they are even 2 titles, which neutralize each other ....that are thigns, where you have to think, which diphead must have concepted them to give 2 titles 2 different quirements, which neutralize each other oO

and reallly ..for wtf need people titles in presearing ... other then only to discriminate other players with their childish huge egos, spamming, what pros they are ad showing their titles around, as if they would be that super important...its absolutely game disturbing ..there are lots of better other ways to reward perma presearing characters ...


that the load of flaming kids here now totally ignored the ideads for other rewards here now, shows to me only.. how stubborn those people are hanging on that one bad concepted title and don't even care for the possibility to improve the concept of rewarding perma pre's, which is in the end more rewarding, then just 1 title that has in the end NOTHING to do with the name of the title itself and is nothign else, then the most biggest GRIND of the game.


To the end .... people ..we are here not in the kindergarten..learn to give constructive criticism or STFU and stop posting such childish flames like 10y olds ... like you all seem to be


and especially to you Magma ..

STFU!!! get grown up and learn to give constructive criticism ...

yelling Shut up..shut up... can every stupid braindead child with an IQ of a dust corn in a vacuum like you.


so, thread can be closed ..will come so or so nothing intelligent anymore from those flaming yellers

easy change

Legendary Defender of Ascalon must also be a survivor other wise if you have die, how the hell did you defend ascalon?

Daaaamn, you people attacked him like crazy.

/notsigned, but still. No need to be so harsh.

/not signed

Oh noez..not just another thread about LS/LDoA XD....

I allways thought the best fix would be that their was a spot in presearing that you could defend ascalon against an everlasting stream of waves of char. The level of the char would increase gradually over time. (like +1 level every 30 min or so.). There would not be a res shrine. (groups of 4 every 30 sec)

So you would have to hold the ford, defending ascalon against the char long enough for them to reach a high enough level for you to start gaining xp again. At least that way you would get the tittle for defending ascalon, not for going afk while being killed over and over again, once every 20 sec. (>100K deaths on my warrior at level 18.) Everytime the level goes up one of the char heroes joins in for the first group.

It would still be very hard, When you die you have to start over.
Mapping out/logging off/ resigning would count as one death.
The waves would end when one of the players reaches level 20.
The only way to get survivor + ldoa would be to survive till level 20 without dying.

How fitting. STFU in response to me saying to Shut Up. Ironic? I also like how you ignored the flames.... lol

This thread really needs to be closed down.

Dude, it's about as unfair as not getting all elites without NF, or not have the Rep Titles without EotN. I see absolutly no problem with that, only prob i could ever see is about the peeps who have Proph, but had to chose and really care about that. Also, other games have extra proffesion i could say thats unfair to any only prophecies users. Its as fair as GW gets.

The fact is, there's just no need to implement this. You don't need both to max out the Maxed Title Track, and LoDA has no special bonus. If you're playing the game for 101% completion.. I mean, come on, give me a break. you can do without one title that has no bonus for completion, and is purely a grind title.

And telling people who disagree strongly to STFU doesn't help your cause.

I just want as much as possible for my necro, for HoM and such, and those would also make my trek to God Walking Among Mere Mortals easier.

You are my hero.

To the topic, which is obivously another unplanned rant, /notsigned

After sifting through your grammar, I'll try to explain the failure in logic.

You're trying to find unfairness in one person having campaigns that someone else doesn't. That's not unfairness. That's someone buying a campaign and someone else not. The person who bought the campaign has the right to earn the titles available to them by that campaign, and the person without it has no chance at all. If they want that chance, they can shell out the cash to buy the campaign they need to get it.

I'll admit that all campaigns are not equal. Factions has allegiance titles. Nightfall has Sunspear and Lightbringer. EotN has lots of rep titles. Prophecies has LDoA.

But here's the unfairness I'm talking about: A Tyrian character has the chance to go for either LDoA or LS. Non-Tyrians don't have that choice. So, if you add a system that allows the Tyrian character to get LDoA and LS, you create an imbalance in the system. With every campaign in your arsenal, you can't get LS and LDoA at the same time, and if you were, Tyrian characters win the title race.

So? I see no problem with that. If you want the titles make a proph character.

*Joins the crowd of flamers*

Ya! STFU!

Agree with this, 100%. This is one game where you simply can't have perfection. Unless you were logging in religiously from day 1, there's a hat or event of some sort that you missed. There's a mini you don't have, certain special features you can no longer unlock, etc. And if you have LDoA, you don't get Survivor (or vice versa).

Everyone else hit the other good points (and pretty much that one too), so yeah. /notsigned and maybe a request to close the thread, please?