Survivor Assassin

Theo Godscythe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

13 Dec 2007 at 13:40 - 1

BOW VERSION

Attributes:

Critical Strikes 12
Shadow Arts 8
Marksmanship 10

Runes optional, although without Runes the Skills are still just as good. I advise not to use any Runes since loosing HP for a minor Attribute increase is pointless.

Skills/Build:

1. Optional (recommended Skills: Volley/Heart of Shadow/Disrupting Accuracy)
2. Keen Arrow
3. Critical Eye
4. Critical Agility
5. Critical Defense
6. Way of the Master
7. Way of Perfection
8. Way of the Assassin

This Build is probably as defensive as an Assassin can get, and still deal some decent damage. With so many Skills which increase you chance of Critical Strike you will deal on average 30-50 damage (if not more), and if you choose to bring Disrupting Accuracy you’ll interrupt most of your targets actions(very useful against Spiking Spell caster opponents). Way of Perfection will heal you for almost every attack you make and Critical Defense will keep most Warriors, Assassins, Dervishes, and Rangers of your back. Critical Agility is obviously for an Attack Speed buff and some minor Armor increase. Volley is to be used in low-level areas where there are many weak foes. Heart of Shadow is to be used if you don’t trust your monk(s). This builds obviously has no Resurrection Signet for the fact that, in my opinion, a Survivor has to be careful, and if you are careful you won’t have any need for such a Skill.

Another reason why this is such a good/decent Survivor build is that you attack at range so there is no need to be in the middle of the fighting, and dying.

SCYTHE VERSION

Attributes:

Critical Strikes 12
Shadow Arts 8
Scythe Mastery 10

Runes optional, although without Runes the Skills are still just as good. I advise not to use any Runes since losing HP for a minor Attribute increase is pointless.

Skills/Build:

1. Optional (recommended Skills:Victorious Sweep, Crippling Sweep, Farmer’s Scythe(for errr...well “farming"

)
2. Mystic Sweep
3. Eremite’s Sweep
4. Shadow Sanctuary
5. Critical Defense
6. Way of the Master
7. Way of Perfection
8. Way of the Assassin

Almost the same as the Bow version except it uses scythe Skills and deals way more damage(50-100 on average). Also since the Attack Skills all take a low amount of time to activate the need for an Attack Speed Increase is not necessary allowing us to use Shadow Sanctuary to it’s full potential. This version is, however, not as "safe" as the Bow Version since you have to get within melee range leaving you vunerable to AoE Skills and being body-blocked and killed.

Updates:
If I get any new ideas for other versions of this build I'll post them here.
(Note: Melee versions of this build won't be as useful for Survivor, but they might/might not be more damaging.)
Added: Scythe Version

Masamune Saiyan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2007

House zu Heltzer

Naked Pagans

13 Dec 2007 at 14:44 - 2

Excellent. I was hoping to find some posts about Survivor Assassins.

I made a new Assassin just for that title (Corazon De Pollo. Oh, the irony.)

xD

I will try your build. Thanks.

tortugan

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

[DVDF]

13 Dec 2007 at 16:49 - 3

You might as well run a ranger

Theo Godscythe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

13 Dec 2007 at 16:55 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by tortugan

You might as well run a ranger

Of course but if you want to get Legendary Survivor on an Assassin running a Ranger wont help now, will it?

King's Spectre

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Syracuse, NY, USA

The Amazon Basin (AB)

13 Dec 2007 at 16:58 - 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by tortugan

You might as well run a ranger

True, but it's better than the old days when you'd see a W/Mo survivor running around with a flatbow..

I think the synergy here is cool.

Shuuda

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guildless

Me/

13 Dec 2007 at 17:02 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theo Godscythe

Of course but if you want to get Legendary Survivor on an Assassin running a Ranger wont help now, will it?

Erm, can I ask why you want it on a sin, it's not hard, and it doesn't make you any better at the game. Don't ever get deluded into thinking these titles have meaning.

Yes, that build (or any build if you have a brain) will get the title.

tortugan

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

[DVDF]

13 Dec 2007 at 17:33 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theo Godscythe

Of course but if you want to get Legendary Survivor on an Assassin running a Ranger wont help now, will it?

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

13 Dec 2007 at 18:22 - 8

I always find more of a problem with spell casters then melee when trying for the title. Some one hits you with burning / bleeding at the same time ouch…
What if you replaced critical eye with

[skill]Assassin's Remedy[/skill]

Or the old safety skill

[skill]Feigned Neutrality[/skill]

Just a suggestion I was only able to make title 1 on my sin back before nightfall.

Theo Godscythe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

13 Dec 2007 at 20:05 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Painbringer

I thought of adding Shadow Sanctuary(the Alliance version of Feigned Neutrality) since you can just remove blind and keep attacking with the effects(+armor and + regeneration) but seeing that Critical Agility already adds Armor bonuses adding Feigned Neutrality would only give +25 armor, thanks to the new armor cap.

But good point non-the-less

maybe for the Optional spot?

This Build can be changed for the situation, that’s why I decided to leave an “Optional” spot for Skills that might be useful in one area but not in others.

Quote: Originally Posted by Shuuda Erm, can I ask why you want it on a sin, it's not hard, and it doesn't make you any better at the game. Don't ever get deluded into thinking these titles have meaning.

Yes, that build (or any build if you have a brain) will get the title. Although Titles may/may not have any meaning to you for some of us it's niece to know that we were able to achieve Titles. If you don't care about getting the Survivor Title for an Assassin then don't read this thread and go away. If you are going to be negative do the same. So if you can't say anything nice or stop whining like a little brat GO AWAY!

Quote:

Originally Posted by tortugan

Zamochit

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/A

13 Dec 2007 at 20:11 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theo Godscythe

P.S. when you can get the Survivor title with ANY BUILD then it will truly be worthless unless you have a decent build you will never get near the 2nd rank of this title. Last time I checked playing a suicidal Assassin wont get this title ever. Three words ~ Fronis Irontoe's Lair ~ a Sin can get R3 there with frenzy and healing signet as his only skillz ~ nuffsaid

~ Nice build though for people who want to do it properly gg

tortugan

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

[DVDF]

13 Dec 2007 at 21:22 - 11

Zamochit, these people are thinking of doing it at least the normal way(which is becoming rare nowadays) by just playing through the game, capping elites etc. etc..

And to answer you Theo, that's where your skill as ASSASSIN comes in, timing on how and when to come in. When I did it I also didn't just AoD to the middle of the mob as first person, that's close to suicidal, but instead I just waited until the right moment(usually after the tank or w/e got aggro) and then just tele'd in and did my thing and then tele out.
It's a easy as that, no need for the scary staying behind bit, because then in my opinion, let me repeat that, in my opinion you don't get ANY credit for getting legendary survivor on an assassin, because what's so great about getting LS on an assassin while you were using a bow all the time?

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

13 Dec 2007 at 21:46 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theo Godscythe

Theo Godscythe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

13 Dec 2007 at 23:19 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coloneh

no. it will gave you +80 armor. skills dont stack above +25. single skills can go past +25.

Originally Posted by Zamochit Three words ~ Fronis Irontoe's Lair ~ a Sin can get R3 there with frenzy and healing signet as his only skillz ~ nuffsaid

~ Nice build though for people who want to do it properly gg I don’t like to “Farm

” for Legendary Survivor going back to what tortugan said it would not be the same as getting it the way its supposed to be.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tortugan

tortugan

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

[DVDF]

14 Dec 2007 at 18:24 - 14

And how is going ranger on an assassin not taking the easy way out?

Theo Godscythe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

14 Dec 2007 at 23:48 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by tortugan

And how is going ranger on an assassin not taking the easy way out? Seriously Tortugan stop trying to taunt me.

Using a Build that attacks at range is just to make it safer. With a few changes you can use a "real" assassin build and keep most of the defensive skills in this one

This Build is all about Synergy I understand your point of view, with the whole running a Ranger on an Assassin, but like I said above it's meant to be "safe".

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

15 Dec 2007 at 20:12 - 16

I see quite a few sins using crit barrage to try to get up there.

John Panda

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

in my house

The Arctic Maruarders [TAM]

17 Dec 2007 at 13:55 - 17

i still entrust killroy with my exp and survivability. get to level 10 take your self to gunnars farm till you hit that 1,337,500 mark 9:

Unreal Havoc

Guest

Join Date: Dec 2007

17 Dec 2007 at 16:11 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by tortugan

And how is going ranger on an assassin not taking the easy way out? Does it matter how it's done? Isn't the whole point of being able to choose any secondary proffession to be able to use skills to suit your style of play? Why shouldn't an Assassin use a Bow? Or any other weapon they choose to use? Who are we to define exactly how an Assassin should or shouldn't be used. Some of the best farming builds for an Assassin use a staff, is that the easy way out? Or common sense?

Same goes for using a bow to get Survivor, further away from the enemy you are the less chance you have of getting killed easily by a critical mistake. Take a Flatbow and an IMS, along with the right skills, and you are relatively safe through to Legendary Survivor. Is that the easy way out? Or common sense for someone wanting to get their title with a melee class with less armour than a Warrior.

ghostlyfenix

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

18 Dec 2007 at 06:32 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theo Godscythe

I know that’s what I meant, although I did word it wrong, anyway that's exactly why I don't want to add Feigned Neutrality it would be close to useless, Armor Bonus wise, since I already have an armor buff of 20+ from Critical Agility. dont see how this skill is useless in bonus armor wise, this skill is used when ur about to drop, could save ur survivor title being trashed

its about every 4-5 armor -1 damage

Theo Godscythe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

18 Dec 2007 at 13:37 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghostlyfenix

dont see how this skill is useless in bonus armor wise, this skill is used when ur about to drop, could save ur survivor title being trashed

its about every 4-5 armor -1 damage

Oh yes, sorry if I am blunt but, am sure -1 damage will help you a whole lot when facing opponents Elementalists and such which deal 100+ damage with their spells, thank you fro correcting me, all knowledgeable one.

Rolls eyes* Rolls eyes* Rolls eyes*

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Panda

i still entrust killroy with my exp and survivability. get to level 10 take your self to gunnars farm till you hit that 1,337,500 mark 9: Good point, I just discovered this nice little farm, am trying it with my Paragon right now. Personally I am at the point of giving up on getting the title the "way it's meant to be" I was able to get it with my derv the "way it's supposed to be" and I tell you it's a pain. I thinks the Gunnar Hold farm is better.

Oh well, if this farm was added let it be as it shall, for those who still want Survivor "the way it's meant to be" then good luck.

*Funny how hypocritical those last two paragraphs where since I said the complete opposite a few post back, oh well.*

John Panda

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

in my house

The Arctic Maruarders [TAM]

18 Dec 2007 at 13:39 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theo Godscythe

Rolls eyes* Rolls eyes* Rolls eyes*

Good point, I just discovered this nice little farm, am trying it with my Paragon right now. Personally I am at the point of giving up on getting the title the "way it's meant to be" I was able to get it with my derv the "way it's supposed to be" and I tell you it's a pain. I thinks the Gunnar Hold farm is better.

Oh well, if this farm was added let it be as it shall, for those who still want Survivor "the way it's meant to be" then good luck.

yeah my rit got the title from this farm but its deffinatly not worth to play to get legendary survivor you'd have to do alot of quests and beat all the games.. my old guild leader did it like that "the way its meant to be" which was ridiculous..

Ugoff The Unholy

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

23 Dec 2007 at 05:51 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by tortugan

Getting Legendary Survivor on a sin using just a bow doesn't give any added credit for you getting it on a sin. it's a nice achievement if you got the title using asssassins with the weapon they're supposed to use, otherwise it's just comparable to getting it on a ranger, in fact not even different from it. Since when does it say "Legendary Survivor: I Got It By Hanging Back Shooting Arrows" under your name?

If we want to go that far, my assassin should say "Legendary Survivor: HFFF Monkey".

It's the same title, no matter how you get it. The difference between getting it on a Ranger is... you're an Assassin.

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

24 Jan 2008 at 22:45 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theo Godscythe

*Funny how hypocritical those last two paragraphs where since I said the complete opposite a few post back, oh well.* Don't worry about being hypocritical, everyone is, I no longer can say that i got leg survivor on my paragon without logging when near death or from farming runs, well I can about without logging off, even never getting close to dieing ^^, but I was wanting to do it the "old fasion way" unlike tons of others. Then I got sick of the time and did a few Kilroy runs to hasten things up. Honestly Kilroy is probably the only farm that isnt really a cheat in my opinion, unlike HFFF and other methods of farming xp for the title, this one offers the most challenge, especially in HM, after a bit, if ur not pressing 8 and clicking STAND UP enough, you may die, unlike otehr places where u just hang in the back or do nothing at all while you collect xp from other's work. So doing the Kilroy run in Gunnar's can be viewed by some, such as myself, as not a "true farming" run.

Celtic Sapphire

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Wales, UK

AURA

04 Feb 2008 at 17:13 - 24

I know its not the "right way" of doing it, but just to let you know I got the Survivor on my assassin in 17 hrs of play just by henching starter island cantha and then straight to the Kilroy run. I just wanted to see how fast it could be done..

Side Forruner

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

Spiffy Guild

A/Mo

13 Feb 2008 at 03:21 - 25

I have had legendary survivor for a while now. I got it by actually doing missions and quests (took me almost a year). I came up with a build that works surprisingly well in fow, its below in the screen shot.

1. Critical Defenses
2. Locust's Fury
3. Critical Eye
4. Critical Agility
5. Way of Perfection
6. Mending
7. Watchful Spirit
8. Resurrection Chant

16 Critical Strikes
9 Dagger Mastery
8 Healing Prayers
5 Shadow Arts

Vampiric daggers seem to help with the crazy attack speed you get from it