Leadership

1 pages Page 1
B
Bobby Sox
Academy Page
#1
Leadership's bonus reads as follows currently:

You gain 1 Energy for every ally affected by one of your Shouts or Chants (maximum 1 Energy for every 2 ranks).

My proposed change is simply:

You gain 1 Energy for every ally affected by one of your Shouts or Chants (maximum 1 Energy for every 2 ranks). This Energy is doubled if you are in an area with a maximum party size of 4 or less.

I see this as opening the paragon up a little bit in Random and Team Arenas and Alliance Battles, as well as in PvE areas in the early game (thinking of Hard Mode here) without really any negative consequences. I'd like to hear your comments on this, though.

I am sorry if this has been posted before and the idea discarded. I did a search of this forum and found nothing talking about this directly in the newer threads.
Snow Bunny
Snow Bunny
Alcoholic From Yale
#2
Paragons are already overpowered.

/notsigned
Tab
Tab
Jungle Guide
#3
Gogo TA paraway.
blakecraw
blakecraw
Krytan Explorer
#4
make it 3 or less and /signed for sure!
B
Bobby Sox
Academy Page
#5
Quote:
Paragons are already overpowered.
I find them far from overpowered in low player count areas. This would not increase the maximum gained (still 6 energy at 12 leadership), you would just gain that 6 energy instead of 4 without pets or minions.

Quote:
make it 3 or less and /signed for sure!
Where would you have a maximum party size of 3 or less besides a few PvE solo quests and Tilhark Orchard mission?

EDIT:
Quote:
for farming
I have to repeat this: in areas with a MAXIMUM party size of 4. Not if you take 4 member parties in a higher zone.
street peddler
street peddler
Wilds Pathfinder
#6
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Sox
Where would you have a maximum party size of 3 or less besides a few PvE solo quests and Tilhark Orchard mission?
for farming
__________
HawkofStorms
HawkofStorms
Hall Hero
#7
/notsigned
Paragons already have infinate energy. This would also be imbalanced for RA/TA.
MithranArkanere
MithranArkanere
Underworld Spelunker
#8
XD.

See the paragon skills:

"Earn 1 energy for every ally (Max 4)
"Earn 20 health for every ally (Max 80)

Most paragon skills are thought for 4 party members.

Beign with 8 it's just a plus to that.
B
Bobby Sox
Academy Page
#9
Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
XD.

See the paragon skills:

"Earn 1 energy for every ally (Max 4)
"Earn 20 health for every ally (Max 80)

Most paragon skills are thought for 4 party members.

Beign with 8 it's just a plus to that.
"Make Your Time!" is the only one like that as far as I can tell.
Lady Raenef
Lady Raenef
Jungle Guide
#10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
Paragons are already overpowered.

/notsigned
They're underpowered. I hardly see a Paragon make use of themselves in situations. In fact, I'm sure if you search through threads you can find those few posts about people wanting updates for Paragons.
W
Wildi
Krytan Explorer
#11
/signed ____
Kale Ironfist
Kale Ironfist
Jungle Guide
#12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Raenef
They're underpowered. I hardly see a Paragon make use of themselves in situations. In fact, I'm sure if you search through threads you can find those few posts about people wanting updates for Paragons.
Paragons are overpowered in their offensive capabilities, coupled with strong defensive powers. Of course, for it to be worth it, you need to be in a large team setting (which most of the game is anyway).
Lady Raenef
Lady Raenef
Jungle Guide
#13
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kale Ironfist
Paragons are overpowered in their offensive capabilities, coupled with strong defensive powers. Of course, for it to be worth it, you need to be in a large team setting (which most of the game is anyway).
Eh, I've never seen very many helpful Paragons. Usually, they die and sometimes by my own hand.
M
Made In Ascalon
Krytan Explorer
#14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Raenef
They're underpowered. I hardly see a Paragon make use of themselves in situations. In fact, I'm sure if you search through threads you can find those few posts about people wanting updates for Paragons.
Their issue isn't energy, their issue is having bad design and leadership having a bunch of random skills with no direction.
angmar_nite
angmar_nite
Jungle Guide
#15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Raenef
Eh, I've never seen very many helpful Paragons. Usually, they die and sometimes by my own hand.
There's nothing to fear.

Save yourself

Focused Anger.

IAS of your choice.

Plus attack skills, and 1 more pve skill.
Snow Bunny
Snow Bunny
Alcoholic From Yale
#16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Raenef
Eh, I've never seen very many helpful Paragons. Usually, they die and sometimes by my own hand.
Yeah, I mean, how useful is ranged sword-class DPS with warrior armor who can lessen damage by 40%, improve criticals by 50%, and grant +100AL to party members, all on the same bar?
Lady Raenef
Lady Raenef
Jungle Guide
#17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
Yeah, I mean, how useful is ranged sword-class DPS with warrior armor who can lessen damage by 40%, improve criticals by 50%, and grant +100AL to party members, all on the same bar?
Not very, considering it lasts for 1-3 seconds, and can last up to 1 whole attack.
Snow Bunny
Snow Bunny
Alcoholic From Yale
#18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Raenef
Not very, considering it lasts for 1-3 seconds, and can last up to 1 whole attack.
Are you playing the same game as me?
Oh, I'm sorry, Save Yourselves can be kept up indefinitely for 2/3 of the game.

Racthoh, get your little paragon ass in here and explain why Paragons are already powerful enough.
MMSDome
MMSDome
Raged Out
#19
/notsigned

we dont need it.

Stop bringing attention to Paragons i dont want to risk them getting nerfed more!
Johnny Madhouse
Johnny Madhouse
Ascalonian Squire
#20
Managing your energy in 4-man areas is pretty much the only challenge to being a para, and it's not even that hard. Leadership is powerful enough as it is.

/notsigned