Tips and Help for Frostmaw's Burrows [MERGED]

Solo_uw_ftw

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Gods Wanking Amongst Your [MOM]

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Frostmaw's Burrows in NM is way too tough.

I mean comon, they increased the numbers of wurms, and all of them use "Wurm Bile" which is WAAAAAAAY overpowered.
40 dmg each second for 20 seconds, AoE spell? Wtf was wrong with Anet.

It nearly took me and my friend 2 hours to complete that damn thing in NORMAL mode.

EDIT: Don't know how to post build but team was:

Obsidian Tanker
Warmonger/Barrage
SF
SF
SF
WoH Monk
Healer's Boon Monk
RC/Prot Monk

Cathode_Reborn

Cathode_Reborn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Post the builds of everyone that was on your team.

Pulling the right groups is also important.

anti_fashion

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2007

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this dungeon is one of the harder ones added in with gwen, it takes good pullers and good players to do most of it, it is also a very very long dungeon. most dungeons are 2-3 lvls, frost is a 5lvler it takes a long time to complete.

once you learn the spawns and which guys to pull where you can get it down to 1.5hours in HM. til then keep practicing.

Ralena~

Ralena~

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

E/A

You can shutdown the worms' melee output using blind/weakness, and since they clump up when they surface they are easy targets of epidemic. Wurm Bile is argghhh, though. Combine with Weakness[Enervating Charge]/Cracked Armor[Shell Shock]

E/Me

[skill]Blinding Surge[/skill] / [skill]Blinding Flash[/skill]
[skill]Enervating Charge[/skill][skill]Epidemic[/skill]

wetsparks

wetsparks

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Solo_uw_ftw
Obsidian Tanker
Warmonger/Barrage
SF
SF
SF
WoH Monk
Healer's Boon Monk
RC/Prot Monk I think I found your problem.

Wahoo

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Goon Squad

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Just completed this dungeon on normal in about 1.5 hours. We used 3 heroes: Livia, Olias (MM), and Master of Whispers (Spiteful Spirit). The rest of the team was 1 warrior, 1 assassin, an ele, a monk, and myself (dom mesmer).

Bring a mesmer with Hex Eater Vortex and Hex Eater Signet. Cry of Frustration or Power Spike interrupts wurm bile. The dungeon wasn't particularly difficult with interrupts.

To be honest, this dungeon is worth the effort just to see the fifth floor with high graphics enabled. Frostmaw's room is definitely screenshot worthy.

mage767

mage767

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

LOVE

Me/E

I do this with H/H in normal mode in exactly 1.5hrs, and did it once last week. Used 3 smiter heroes, 2 henchie monks, and 2 eles. Not that bad at all. but harder than other dungeons still. It was in NM.

Then did it in HM while I did the tanking. Had a guildie help out, so it was 6 heroes and 2 humans. Very rough...indeed.

lishi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

i completed the dungeon with h/h , its not that hard if you realize how to make them not ball up when they use worm bile

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

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I agree that it is the most difficult NM dungeon (probably equal with Slavers) but really, Obsidian Tank?

Please

Belthazor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

Did Frostmaw's with some guildies, totally random teams, still, we had no problems. Took us awhile of course (1h45m or so), but it's not that hard...

Squishy ftw

Squishy ftw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Your backline

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Quote:
Originally Posted by wetsparks
I think I found your problem. QFT. An obsi tank there is like bringing only 7 people.
There's nothing wrong with the difficutly in that dungeon, especially not in NM.

About those wurms, just a have a warrior ( a NORMAL one, one that does damage) run in first while the rest hangs back a bit, all wurms will aggro nicely around the warrior. All you need then is have someone cast SS on the wurms and it's gg.
Ofcourse you need to know where exactly these wurms popup but once you've done it a few times you'll know all the spawns. At least I do.

And it should only take around an hour btw.

Cyan Rhae

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

RD

E/

WTF was A-net thinking right ?
All i can say is use some common sense and you figure out about 99% of these games all by yourself!

daky

daky

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/

Me and a friend completed it with seven rangers and one monk...its not that tough. Here is a screen shot of us resigning right after we collected our reward. I'll post the builds if any one is interested.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...4787/gw020.jpg

Sacratus Ignis

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2007

SCAR

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lol its damn easy... HM takes 90mins for my group when we do it... Ob tank is kinda dumb except for the drakes lol. And as far as wurm bile goes... hex removal is not a terrible idea or healing seed = wurm bile too and heals all melee every second lol. SH eles btw are better than SF too, since the wurms dont move and just sit in the SH and die.

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Replace all SF Elementalists with Splinter/Barrage Rangers and take a proper SS/Mark of Pain Curses Necro with you.

Get rid of the Obsidian Tank. This area does not require nor reward such a specialized build.

Though you should be able to make it with 3 SF Eles as well.

Mineria

Mineria

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Denmark

Dragonslayers Of The [Mist]

W/Mo

Did it yesterday with h+h.

[My Build;OQMU0S3ETKT+FAG7g9F0kqi+DyDA]
[Tahlkora;OwAT043AZKjwBEk4uZ6bTTjImAA]
[Dunkoro;OwAT0mHD5ZmUPEIBkCyme6HTAA]
[Vekk;OgNDoMz9M+immuguNWBG4iYC]
Hearta
Cynn
Mhenlo
Zho

As you see nothing "leet here", but it wasn't hard at all, except that I didn't get the flags set right to start with, at the final battle with Frostmaw.

Qwertyfied

Qwertyfied

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ireland

DVDF

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I've done it in normal mode several times, with H/H - usually around 1.5 hours, isn't any harder in HM really, except for those Incubus. Just use common sense and you'll be fine.

Gore

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

You can Barage pet it or acutaly any group will do specialy for NM.

Once you get to last part, after killing the little wurm run to the end of the precipice. That way The Boss will have onlythe choice tu spawn on the edge of that wall and not around your team at a random.

Dont go fast, becarfull of those flying bird as they are Air Spiker and will kill you or your team in one or 2 hits.

Cheers

kel77

kel77

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

The Deep South

The Arctic Marauders[TAM] Former Leader and Officer | [SMS] Alliance

W/E

It was pretty difficult for me, but mostly because my friend left at the end of level two, and his heroes were gone when I got to level 3. From there took about an hour to beat it with only 3 heroes...I got really mad toward the end when I thought I couldn't beat one mob.

pakhavit

pakhavit

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Florida

Thai Alliance

R/Mo

Hard mode 45min. ^^

1 war ss no tank skill
1 ranger bear
2 fire ele(hero)
2 monk 1 hero woh 1 player hb
2 necro hero ss and mm

rush through everything pretty easy, don't play nm mode hm is just a little bit longer.

viens87

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Riga

SCAR

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wahoo
Just completed this dungeon on normal in about 1.5 hours. We used 3 heroes: Livia, Olias (MM), and Master of Whispers (Spiteful Spirit). The rest of the team was 1 warrior, 1 assassin, an ele, a monk, and myself (dom mesmer).

Bring a mesmer with Hex Eater Vortex and Hex Eater Signet. Cry of Frustration or Power Spike interrupts wurm bile. The dungeon wasn't particularly difficult with interrupts.

To be honest, this dungeon is worth the effort just to see the fifth floor with high graphics enabled. Frostmaw's room is definitely screenshot worthy.

same as u .. done this mision yesterday ~1.5h ...
build easy , what i allways use ..
im a mesmer, love my charr
build 13dom,11 fast, 11 insp..
1.kurzik/luxon skill
2.empathy
3.cry of pain
4.echo (elite)
5.glypt of nrg
6.backfire
7.Drain Enchantment
8.Ether Signet

hero.
MM,Talkhora protector hex removal, norgu ilusion iteruptor

other guy monk, hero monk, warrior ranger ..
no eles no need for them ..

easy run.. 4 lokpiks drop ..
ending chest sux .. money for run 4-5k ..

GL guys ..

Vamis Threen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

E/Mo

I'm a fire ele and I just can't get over spamming SF. However the basic truth is that SF is just tickling high level foes because of their armor. I still use it, but mainly because with other skills active it's cheap and quick to direct h/hs and I can spam necrosis on to it.

3 SF nukers is overkill and if one the posters is right about Obsiditank (I dunno, never use one) then you went from an 8 man to a four man party. Change your team build. Once you know the spawns this dungeon is lot easier as well.

I h/hed with SF/necrosis (me), Sab's necro heroes, monk henchies, zho & herta. First time I did it in NM took 2.15hrs, straightaway I did it again in HM in under 2hrs, which suggests to me the difficulty is being surprised by the wurm spawns. If you are ready for the you can move back, let your minions aggro them, and blast away. Easy.

Carboplatin

Carboplatin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

[PIG]

W/A



frostmaw ain't shiet

IslandHermet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Solo_uw_ftw

Obsidian Tanker

SF
SF
SF
Pritty much 4 of you party was useless.
I found your problem.

Oby tank + sf nukers in GW:EN=FAIL
Use different hero's and builds you will fail alot of things if you use this setup in GW:EN.

GloryFox

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

Oh please you can Hero Hench it easy. I'll give you a hint, weakness goes a long way as do Minions.

mage767

mage767

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

LOVE

Me/E

This dungeon is fairly simple with 2 paras with the proper shout skills. It is also easy if you LET the worms hex you and then use a smiter to reverse the hex while producing significant damage.

Turbobusa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

By the Luxon Scavenger

The Mentalists [THPK]

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Love how people brag about doing this dungeon so easily and yet they are paragons with god mode.

On a side note the first time I did it, I went so unprepared that I ended up using zhed (60DP), flagging him to aggro the wurms then killing em from the back. Took a very long time.
Second time I went with interrupts, was way easier. With magebane shot on its current state it should be even easier.

DRGN

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

In Memorium [iBot]

Mo/A

Friend and I did this in about an hour with disconnects and afk time. I'll break down skill by skill what we ran.


Me

[skill]Reversal of Fortune[/skill][skill]Dismiss Condition[/skill][skill]Zealous Benediction[/skill][skill]Shield of Absorption[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Aegis[/skill][skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill] http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Seed_of_Life
Norgu
[skill]Mantra of Recovery[/skill][skill]Cry of Frustration[/skill][skill]Inspired Hex[/skill][skill]Hex Eater Signet[/skill][skill]Power Drain[/skill][skill]Shatter Hex[/skill][skill]Arcane Conundrum[/skill][skill]Mistrust[/skill]

Morgahn
[skill]Finale of Restoration[/skill][skill]"They're on Fire!"[/skill][skill]"Go For The Eyes!"[/skill][skill]Aria of Restoration[/skill][skill]Ballad of Restoration[/skill][skill]Song of Restoration[/skill][skill]Signet of Synergy[/skill][skill]Signet of Return[/skill]

Zhed
[skill]Searing Flames[/skill][skill]Glowing Gaze[/skill][skill]Meteor[/skill][skill]Aura of Restoration[/skill][skill]Aegis[/skill] [skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill][skill]Fire Attunement[/skill][skill]Resurrection Chant[/skill]

My friend
[skill]Barrage[/skill][skill]Distracting Shot[/skill][skill]Savage Shot[/skill][skill]Warmonger's Weapon[/skill][skill]Splinter Weapon[/skill][skill]Whirling Defense[/skill][skill]Antidote Signet[/skill][skill]Flesh of my Flesh[/skill]

Sousuke
[skill]Sandstorm[/skill][skill]Ward Against Elements[/skill][skill]Ward of Stability[/skill][skill]Earthquake[/skill][skill]Eruption[/skill][skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill][skill]Earth Attunement[/skill][skill]Resurrection Chant[/skill]

Olias
[skill]Spiteful Spirit[/skill][skill]Desecrate Enchantments[/skill][skill]Defile Enchantments[/skill][skill]Enfeebling Blood[/skill][skill]Reckless Haste[/skill][skill]Signet of Lost Souls[/skill][skill]Blood Ritual[/skill][skill]Resurrection Chant[/skill]

Ogden
[skill]Reversal of Fortune[/skill][skill]Shield of Regeneration[/skill][skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill][skill]Mend Ailment[/skill][skill]Aegis[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Shield of Absorption[/skill][skill]Holy Veil[/skill]


The builds are slightly modified to make them more usable for heroes(Read:Mindless)

We only had like two deaths before Frostmaw and it was from stupid mistakes. The death at Frostmaw was kind of expected because we hid in the wrong place and got blasted by 3 Siege Wurms + Frostmaw and both spawns. Still managed to take out one of the spawns before the wipe. Too bad the chest drops sucked(crap gold + Lockpick for both of us). The only really annoying thing in the dungeon is Wurm Bile, and Norgu removed that with Hex Eater Signet + Inspired quite well. Arcane was only there to help Barrage + Warmonger's be more effective. I don't recommend using the Ranger build on a hero since they don't use it very well.

masteroflife

masteroflife

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

god damn, play real builds.

no tanks, just smart damage and smart efficient bars. hint: run a gvg build or balanced HA build.( change some skills of course, obviously snaring isn't needed)

did this with a friend and 6 heros, wasn't hard, but sure took like a while. think it was an hour and a half

me: Melandru Derv: Wounding strike and such.
SH ele, with maelstrom.
RC prot with inspire for worm
Boon with inspire for worm

Friend: Water/Earth ele, with harm, melee, element,
SH ele with maelstrome
SH ele with maelstrome
Woh with inspire for worm

PvP builds > pve builds even in pve. o.O

Carboplatin

Carboplatin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

[PIG]

W/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by masteroflife
god damn, play real builds.

no tanks, just smart damage and smart efficient bars. hint: run a gvg build or balanced HA build.( change some skills of course, obviously snaring isn't needed)

did this with a friend and 6 heros, wasn't hard, but sure took like a while. think it was an hour and a half

me: Melandru Derv: Wounding strike and such.
SH ele, with maelstrom.
RC prot with inspire for worm
Boon with inspire for worm

Friend: Water/Earth ele, with harm, melee, element,
SH ele with maelstrome
SH ele with maelstrome
Woh with inspire for worm

PvP builds > pve builds even in pve. o.O pvp and pve builds are mostly the same, just playing style is different. PvE with pve only skills is far better then any pvp build.

gnome

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

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did this a while ago in abt 1 hr 10 i think wasnt overly hard. we didnt even worry abt overaggroing everything. 2 mobs at a time makes it much faster
anyway teambuild:
w/d (hammer + mystic/eremites)
sabs necs =D
LoD + holy haste (yay for me)
warder (sandstorm/WoS/WaE)
zb prot
possibly WoH not entirely sure
pain inverter works wonders against frostmaw and the nec bosses that randomly pop up everywhere (like when fighting the mob of jotun on lvl 4 ). as for the wurm bile, spread out, and if too many do get it remove it, dont try and heal against it.

masteroflife

masteroflife

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by R Langdon
pvp and pve builds are mostly the same, just playing style is different. PvE with pve only skills is far better then any pvp build. Not Realy

This is only one of the examples.

However, i do agree that some pve only skills are overpowering. which is y i said switch out those obviously useless skills.

Guildmaster Cain

Guildmaster Cain

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Guildmistress Eve [Me], Guildmistress Azura [N], Guildmistress Azumi [A], Guildmistress Jaina [D]

Guildmaster Aeron [Rt], Arthas Ironfist [W], Guild: The Tyrian Templars [TTT]

Quote:
Originally Posted by IslandHermet
Pritty much 4 of you party was useless.
I found your problem.

Oby tank + sf nukers in GW:EN=FAIL
Use different hero's and builds you will fail alot of things if you use this setup in GW:EN. LOL!?

SF fail in GWEN? I've used 3 SF heroes in all areas pretty easily. I am monk and use some sort of 600 hp build to aggro all foes, clutter them up in small packages and then unflag the heroes to use the napalm bombs on them. Everything dead in 5 seconds.

deya

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Lamers ultimate Majority

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by R Langdon
pvp and pve builds are mostly the same, just playing style is different. PvE with pve only skills is far better then any pvp build. Even if PvE lads could bring there PvE skillsetups to GvG, they'd get beaten by PvP guilds using PvP setups...

Carboplatin

Carboplatin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

[PIG]

W/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by deya
Even if PvE lads could bring there PvE skillsetups to GvG, they'd get beaten by PvP guilds using PvP setups... hahah that is pretty funny. lets be real.

-edit for spelling

{IceFire}

{IceFire}

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

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Managed to 2man it with heroes in HM the other day. Sabway necros+1 ursan warrior, 1 ursan monk (lol), 2 more monk heroes and a savannah ele. not that hard, chest drops were crap though..

Ronin of Elgo Woods

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

KM

Mo/

Did it the other day and it took a little bit but finished it and was very disappointed with the drops and the chest at the end.

Randvek

Randvek

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Rise From the Ashes [phnx]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin of Elgo Woods
Did it the other day and it took a little bit but finished it and was very disappointed with the drops and the chest at the end. I recently did it on hard mode and got Maul of the Kinslayer x 2. Now that's disappointing.

Sha Noran

Sha Noran

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

http://tinyurl.com/2jlusq

Idiot Savants [iQ]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Solo_uw_ftw
Obsidian Tanker
Warmonger/Barrage
SF
SF
SF
WoH Monk
Healer's Boon Monk
RC/Prot Monk This is why you fail.

bifter

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2007

Blade of Souls [BoS]

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I henched it in HM and got 2 diamonds.