H/H Necromancer v. Shiro = GRIDLOCK.
Drakken Breathes Fire
I know the basics; SV+SS+IP+PB
Upkeep these.
The celestial skill for Necro is all sorts of useless, I think.
my current set up;
myself soul reaping 10 curses 10 blood 15
signet of lost souls, dark pact, necrosis, parasitic bond, insidious parasite, Spoil Victor, Optional, res signet.
I bring Gwen as an MoR interrupter build. (maybe a bad idea? She has empathy but she doesn't seem to do much.)
Master of Whispers is set up as a SS.
2 warrior hench
2 mesmer hench.
I drop shiro to 1/8th hp pretty much every time. (I've even seen his bar 'empty' on enough such occasions.) Once he hits me with one unprepared Meditation of the reaper though, it's GG, cya next time.
Suggestions?
Right now my only thoughts are replacing Gwen with somebody that has Wild Blow.
Upkeep these.
The celestial skill for Necro is all sorts of useless, I think.
my current set up;
myself soul reaping 10 curses 10 blood 15
signet of lost souls, dark pact, necrosis, parasitic bond, insidious parasite, Spoil Victor, Optional, res signet.
I bring Gwen as an MoR interrupter build. (maybe a bad idea? She has empathy but she doesn't seem to do much.)
Master of Whispers is set up as a SS.
2 warrior hench
2 mesmer hench.
I drop shiro to 1/8th hp pretty much every time. (I've even seen his bar 'empty' on enough such occasions.) Once he hits me with one unprepared Meditation of the reaper though, it's GG, cya next time.
Suggestions?
Right now my only thoughts are replacing Gwen with somebody that has Wild Blow.
Darkobra
You want Pain Inverter, Spoil Victor, Spiteful Spirit, you know all that. But here's the thing. It looks like you lack two things. Melee defence and raw power. The best way to get him out of Meditation of the Reaper is to do 600 damage quickly and directly. So melee triggered hexes do nothing.
Now here's the dilemna. No conditions. Ever. He'll send them back to you with Impossible Odds. So that rules out a Searing Flames elementalist. Is it possible for you to drop a mesmer for something with more direct damage? Assassin, elementalist with no conditions, etc? Or do you have something effective that deals in the way of direct damage with a mesmer? Priority really is getting him out of that meditation and fast.
Now here's the dilemna. No conditions. Ever. He'll send them back to you with Impossible Odds. So that rules out a Searing Flames elementalist. Is it possible for you to drop a mesmer for something with more direct damage? Assassin, elementalist with no conditions, etc? Or do you have something effective that deals in the way of direct damage with a mesmer? Priority really is getting him out of that meditation and fast.
Drakken Breathes Fire
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Originally Posted by Darkobra
You want Pain Inverter, Spoil Victor, Spiteful Spirit, you know all that. But here's the thing. It looks like you lack two things. Melee defence and raw power. The best way to get him out of Meditation of the Reaper is to do 600 damage quickly and directly. So melee triggered hexes do nothing.
Now here's the dilemna. No conditions. Ever. He'll send them back to you with Impossible Odds. So that rules out a Searing Flames elementalist. Is it possible for you to drop a mesmer for something with more direct damage? Assassin, elementalist with no conditions, etc? Or do you have something effective that deals in the way of direct damage with a mesmer? Priority really is getting him out of that meditation and fast. The only hero I have with any variety of skills as far as that goes is a Paragon/Elementalist who I can give wild throw, he already has merciless spear, barbed spear and endows so he does *alright* DPS.
I might have to spend some time farmign Balthazar faction and suiting up a hero just for this mission.
*edit.*
Owned with masters with the wild throw.
Now here's the dilemna. No conditions. Ever. He'll send them back to you with Impossible Odds. So that rules out a Searing Flames elementalist. Is it possible for you to drop a mesmer for something with more direct damage? Assassin, elementalist with no conditions, etc? Or do you have something effective that deals in the way of direct damage with a mesmer? Priority really is getting him out of that meditation and fast. The only hero I have with any variety of skills as far as that goes is a Paragon/Elementalist who I can give wild throw, he already has merciless spear, barbed spear and endows so he does *alright* DPS.
I might have to spend some time farmign Balthazar faction and suiting up a hero just for this mission.
*edit.*
Owned with masters with the wild throw.
Darkobra
If you want, I can help you on it.
gremlin
Every time we have dropped Shiro in record time its been by boxing him in so he never gets a chance to run away.
3 or more melee seems to work very well, masses of damage and interupts.
3 or more melee seems to work very well, masses of damage and interupts.
jarrak
the big deal about meditation of the reaper is that its a stance - use wild blow, wild throw, wild whatever that kills a stance and you are good to go. i usual go with awaken the blood + SV = 115 dmg on hit and pain inverter = 80 dmg on hit
so thats it - also i normal got ele with mind blast - spamming dmg and getting energy out of it, so also rodgort invocation or what its called... and a few extra that i cant remb
the main thing is he dies fast
so thats it - also i normal got ele with mind blast - spamming dmg and getting energy out of it, so also rodgort invocation or what its called... and a few extra that i cant remb
the main thing is he dies fast
Wakka
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Consider bringing [skill=text]Vocal Minority[/skill] to prevent him from Banishing your party members, but at the same time be aware that the hex will only last half as long.
I found skills like [skill=text]Fertile Season[/skill] really do help the team giving them a huge HP buffer while it has minimum effect on Shiro (lets face it another hundered or 2 HP isnt going to make much of a difference lol) but its up to you really
Drakken Breathes Fire
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Originally Posted by Drakken Breathes Fire
*edit.*
Owned with masters with the wild throw. close please.
Owned with masters with the wild throw. close please.
meat shield
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Originally Posted by jarrak
the big deal about meditation of the reaper is that its a stance - use wild blow, wild throw, wild whatever that kills a stance and you are good to go.
LIES
its a skill
its a skill
Solus Spartan
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Originally Posted by meat shield
LIES
its a skill I assume he meant Battle Scars
its a skill I assume he meant Battle Scars
Mark Nevermiss
Take an ele with echo celestial storm to end meditation of the reaper ASAP and pwn Shiro
That obviously cannot be hero or hench
[EDIT]: Just went to the kitchen and an idea struck - Try to use life stealing to end meditation of the reaper. With 2-3 necros u can easily steal 500 health in no time.
[EDIT2]: Bah, just checked Guildwiki. Whilst u can damage Shiro with life stealing while in meditation of the reaper, that will not count towards the damage necessary to end the skill
That obviously cannot be hero or hench
[EDIT]: Just went to the kitchen and an idea struck - Try to use life stealing to end meditation of the reaper. With 2-3 necros u can easily steal 500 health in no time.
[EDIT2]: Bah, just checked Guildwiki. Whilst u can damage Shiro with life stealing while in meditation of the reaper, that will not count towards the damage necessary to end the skill
Witchblade
just my 0.02$
i did it without any thinking at all, threw in some random stuff. I thought i'd just go try it once in HM for fun before log off (HM ofc)
(yup, my char is R/Ne with ridiculous looking build but it worked)
Henchies were Hala, Sheena, Lukas and Devona if i remember correctly
1st try, he went to 1/4 life then 600+'d everyone but me.. then you know how it ends
2nd try, he went down faster, got his butt fried with a finishing 2000+damage instant spam, no one died
during both fight i just stood in the middle of a messy battle, spamming all of those, not even moving
i did it without any thinking at all, threw in some random stuff. I thought i'd just go try it once in HM for fun before log off (HM ofc)
(yup, my char is R/Ne with ridiculous looking build but it worked)
Henchies were Hala, Sheena, Lukas and Devona if i remember correctly
1st try, he went to 1/4 life then 600+'d everyone but me.. then you know how it ends
2nd try, he went down faster, got his butt fried with a finishing 2000+damage instant spam, no one died
during both fight i just stood in the middle of a messy battle, spamming all of those, not even moving
Mark Nevermiss
One thing is certain from your screenshot, Witchblade, Shiro Tagachi hates Seaguard Hala :P
Moloch Vein
Eh.
I beat Shiro in Hard Mode with myself + 3 necro heroes (four man team all N) for masters, exceedingly easy. You just give them all Grenths Balance and you yourself run SV. If you don't use a necro and you don't use a sin (which, well, that's another story altogether) slap on an SV on one of the heroes. Give them ALL Protective Spirit, maybe spirit bond, some decent prot, angorodon's, blood drinker, etc.
All in all you're creating four characters that would be able to "solo" Shiro were it not for some pretty silly features of said boss. Altogether they'll rape him.
I beat Shiro in Hard Mode with myself + 3 necro heroes (four man team all N) for masters, exceedingly easy. You just give them all Grenths Balance and you yourself run SV. If you don't use a necro and you don't use a sin (which, well, that's another story altogether) slap on an SV on one of the heroes. Give them ALL Protective Spirit, maybe spirit bond, some decent prot, angorodon's, blood drinker, etc.
All in all you're creating four characters that would be able to "solo" Shiro were it not for some pretty silly features of said boss. Altogether they'll rape him.
frandrew1026
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Originally Posted by jarrak
the big deal about meditation of the reaper is that its a stance
Meditation of the Reaper is a skill, not a stance. However, Battle Scars is a stance
MagmaRed
Interrupts are a waste on Shiro. Only thing that can be interrupted are the Shiroken that come in.