Better elite help?

thor thunder

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I was useing this build yesterday in AB and it was pretty mean dmg/disruption but i think a different elite would be best.
I dont know if this build is old or whatever i just thru it together for Ab wit some guildys and liked it, i just think the elite could go mabey what do you think?

Frenzy
Enrageing Charge
Savage Slash
Protectors Strike
Quivering Blade (E)
Silverwing Slash
Final Thrust
Lions Comfort

Str 12 +1
Sw 12 +2
Tac ** +1

its worked really well and i think QB works good but i think something else may be better, i was thinking Crip slash but idk i like how spamable QB is yeah it sucks when you get blocked but it dosnt happen often if you watch your targets.
Well Thanks any help is Handy

Pyro maniac

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[skill]Eviscerate[/skill]

if you want to stick with your sword, [skill]Crippling Slash[/skill] is a decent elite. And good in Alliance Battles

thor thunder

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyro maniac
[skill]Eviscerate[/skill]

if you want to stick with your sword, [skill]Crippling Slash[/skill] is a decent elite. And good in Alliance Battles yeah Eviscerate is good but Final thrust is the finishing move its lethal if used right Savage>QB>Silverwing>Final can dish out an easy 300-500 dmg on a unsespectign caster bringing Cripslash is nice but you lose alot of dmg so idk and plus if they run just protecters strike them! or you could bring Bulls strike but i think protectors is better the fast attack is sweet.

Arkantos

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If you want to run a sword in PvP, go with cripslash. You also need deep wound, it's a staple on warriors in PvP.

thor thunder

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
If you want to run a sword in PvP, go with cripslash. You also need deep wound, it's a staple on warriors in PvP. True but im looking for dmg not conditions.
Conditions are great but in AB where they have res shrine i think there kinda useless solid dmg is better then over time dmg or delaying of dmg.
plus i want something dif i dont wana crip slash like every other ele sword conjurer.
I like the build i came up with because i can deal great dmg it can disrupet and teach noobs not to run espesialy with BC =)

Arkantos

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Tbh having your foe crippled, bleeding and deep wound is going to do more then quivering blade. Crip slash -> Gash -> attack skill -> Final thrust. That way you have a foe that won't be able to get away, degening, having 20% less max health, and you doing damage.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Tbh having your foe crippled, bleeding and deep wound is going to do more then quivering blade. Crip slash -> Gash -> attack skill -> Final thrust. That way you have a foe that won't be able to get away, degening, having 20% less max health, and you doing damage. QFT.
Whenever I use sword in AB it's crip slash with gash, Sun and Moon Slash and final thrust.
It kills stuff, and if it doesn't, at least the crippling/bleeding annoys them

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Quote:
Originally Posted by thor thunder
True but im looking for dmg not conditions. Deep wound is 100 damage.

Cripslash --> Gash hurts more than Quivering Blade --> Silverwing

Plus, it cripples and degens.

thor thunder

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Deep wound is 100 damage.

Cripslash --> Gash hurts more than Quivering Blade --> Silverwing
DW = Max 100 dmg for 18-25 sec
QB = 50-100 dmg every 2-5 sec
hmmmmm your right DW is better =D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Plus, it cripples and degens. oh yeah forgot your right for 2 skill spots and my only elite space i can get -2 degen, cripple and -100 max health =D

OR

2 faster re-useable high +dmg attacks averigeing at 70 dmg a hit...


Man your sooooo right!

cripp slash is niceee but i still perfer solid dmg rather then a condition. DW caps at 100 -health thats a little more then silverwing but its NOT repeatable and CANT actualy kill a enemy just help... its useful in Pve but in pvp its bah.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by thor thunder
its useful in Pve but in pvp its bah. Right.
This guy just said DW is 'bah' in PvP.

... I agree with ibreak.

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ok lets see..
with a sword
2 skills = 100 Dmg condition
1 skill = 100 solid dmg

yeah thats baddddd thanks for the pointers.
you want to use DW in pvp go Axe please.

Squishy ftw

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Quote:
Originally Posted by thor thunder
DW = Max 100 dmg for 18-25 sec
QB = 50-100 dmg every 2-5 sec
hmmmmm your right DW is better =D



oh yeah forgot your right for 2 skill spots and my only elite space i can get -2 degen, cripple and -100 max health =D

OR

2 faster re-useable high +dmg attacks averigeing at 70 dmg a hit...


Man your sooooo right!

cripp slash is niceee but i still perfer solid dmg rather then a condition. DW caps at 100 -health thats a little more then silverwing but its NOT repeatable and CANT actualy kill a enemy just help... its useful in Pve but in pvp its bah. Seriously, why did you make this thread ?
you ask for help, you get help, but you act all stubborn and continue to just defend your current build.

Bleeding does 3 degen, not 2... no,you don't see that many high numbers flying over your screen, but you're providing a nice pressure.
Same goes for deep wound, that's 20% of their health they lack, making them a lot easyer to spike. Especially in PvP is DW a killer condition...even tho you say it's.. bah..

So either start accepting the help you're getting here or just keep running whatever you want but stop bitching about it then.

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Deep Wound also reduces the amount of healing they get.

Arkantos

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If you want damage, go axe. Sword damage is mediocre. A warrior without DW is crap, theres no other thing to call it. Seriously, you came here looking for help, people are trying to tell you that sword damage isn't great and are suggesting a better build, and you start saying a bunch of crap. Doesn't really make sense.

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close please, OP is dumb.

WUPS LOL

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Quote: Originally Posted by Squishy ftw
Seriously, why did you make this thread ?
you ask for help, you get help, but you act all stubborn and continue to just defend your current build.

Bleeding does 3 degen, not 2... no,you don't see that many high number flying over your screen, but you're providing a nice pressure.
Same goes for deep wound, that's 20% of their health they lack, making them a lot easyer to spike. Especially in PvP is DW a killer condition...even tho you say it's.. bah..

So either start accepting the help you're getting here or just keep running whatever you want but bitching about it then. I didnt ask for BUILD help i asked for ELITE help.
if you could read english you would see that.
As for Crip slash i mentioned it IN THE OP so further comments on it are NOT neccisary.

yeah my bad 3 not 2 sorry but still bleed cant be reaplyed until it has wore off.. makeing it only so uslful against a single target.. 1 v 1 conditions besides DW arnt all that helpful.
YEAH il admit my staitment about DW in pvp was a bit off it is useful but with a sword its not 2 skills for DW and bleed isnt all that great when you could be doing repeatable dmg? i just dont see how a single hit for 100 dmg can beat multiple hits of 50-70 in 18 seconds you could do alot more then 100 dmg. some battles dont last that long but when your pushing a target to make the monk spam DW dosn't look that helpful.