The new nerf on trapping makes trapping useless. It was already hard to trap as it was, now the trapper has huge energy management problems and the traps that he does lay don't do any dmg...so he usually dies like a small dog. Trapping is no fun anymore not to mention useless, the guild wars support team told me to post my message here so you guys can view it, agree with me, and give it a 5 rating. Only then will they "consider" my idea.
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Un-nerf trapping [PLEASE VIEW AND RATE!]
gasbagy
Teh [prefession]-zorz
What was the new nerf?
Stormlord Alex
Energizing Winds, I'd assume.
Which died because lame HA buildz r lame.
Good riddance.
Which died because lame HA buildz r lame.
Good riddance.
gasbagy
halfs dmg of dust traps and shorted ew by ALOT
gasbagy
oh by the way dudes if ur posting here rate this sh*t
Diddy bow
Traps have been a bit bad for a while now, id like to see a bit more fire power added to them, perhaps at the cost of recharge, you know make it so one flame trap accually deos somthing, with the easily interuptable status needed to spam them really makes them not very vaible anywhere.
So i think, buff traps, leave EW. Forget farming builds they dont matter, make traps worthy in pvp imo.
So i think, buff traps, leave EW. Forget farming builds they dont matter, make traps worthy in pvp imo.
Nyktos
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halfs dmg of dust traps and shorted ew by ALOT
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More Outrage
Just tried my trapper build using Barbed, Flame and Dust trap and don`t understand the problem, seems the same. Maybe I use it for a different purpose or something.
I`ll rate this thread as 0/10 for explantion of problem.
BTW. what update? Never noticed it or is it some future planned update? If so you should have said so again a 0/10.
I`ll rate this thread as 0/10 for explantion of problem.
BTW. what update? Never noticed it or is it some future planned update? If so you should have said so again a 0/10.
R.Shayne
I so agree with you on trapping. ANET please stop nerfing my PvE just to make the PvP happy. I know there are those that like PvP but I like a good story, hunting down that perfect bow, and questing.
MisterB
I'm guessing you're talking about solo-farming with traps using EW no longer works very well. Balancing a team game around the effectiveness of a skill in solo play is a really bad idea, to put it mildly. So, even though I played that solo trapping build and enjoyed it, I do not agree at all. You asked for a rating, so I'll add a 1 for you.
gasbagy
hey man screw u i did explain the problem... : /
we cant fricking trap anymore.. period
well i mean i can trap cuz im leet but its really tough and hard mode is out of the question
we cant fricking trap anymore.. period
well i mean i can trap cuz im leet but its really tough and hard mode is out of the question
Elentari
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hey man screw u i did explain the problem... : /
we cant fricking trap anymore.. period well i mean i can trap cuz im leet but its really tough and hard mode is out of the question |
this thread is a joke
QQing about not being able to farm as solo trapper is not a valid reason to be buffing something that was nerfed in the first place for the sake of game balancing, i.e. EW duration and cost (assuming thats the nerf ur talking about, and btw dust trap hasnt been nerfed to half dmg, so 0/10 for proper explanation of the issue for me too)
IIIPowerIII
You cant solo trap anymore and? Trapper group still work, so no problem. They nerfed a solo build, then learn to fix it... and stop whining... 0/10 for this crap thread...
R.Shayne
Dude don't get mad, mostly it is pvp here, you should have expected this reaction. They don't understand what we are talking about and they are scared that they will have a new challenge.
1. Pets got nerfed because pvp so Barrage / Necro / Pet no longer works.
2. EW got nerfed because of pvp.
And forget about posting here to get anything like this changed. From what I have seen ANET consideres PvP the most important area. For prof read some of the stuff anet employees post at the guild wiki.
Good try, rating 10/10
1. Pets got nerfed because pvp so Barrage / Necro / Pet no longer works.
2. EW got nerfed because of pvp.
And forget about posting here to get anything like this changed. From what I have seen ANET consideres PvP the most important area. For prof read some of the stuff anet employees post at the guild wiki.
Good try, rating 10/10
Witchblade
dont nerf skill cuz of pvp, just nerf pvp and it'll be fine for everyone 
more seriously, traps are so slow, never had a use for that in pve, just use another char for farming^^
more seriously, traps are so slow, never had a use for that in pve, just use another char for farming^^
angmar_nite
I am an elite pve player (call me elitist first plz)
The pets nerf was absolutely ridiculous imo. Or at least they should make it localized to pvp.
However, when the only thing affected is only one SOLO FARMING build, it doesn't matter at all. Adapt a bit. One solo farming build is not as important as HA.
The pets nerf was absolutely ridiculous imo. Or at least they should make it localized to pvp.
However, when the only thing affected is only one SOLO FARMING build, it doesn't matter at all. Adapt a bit. One solo farming build is not as important as HA.
More Outrage
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hey man screw u i did explain the problem... : /
we cant fricking trap anymore.. period well i mean i can trap cuz im leet but its really tough and hard mode is out of the question |
yes I can.
no ur not.
LOL u just made my day.
Pure Pwnage!
Heavenly Messanger
I hardly think that just rating this thread a 5 will get enough attention to make the Guild Wars team revert trapping back to how it was. They only really consider changing the game mechanics if the majority of players agree, and make a big fuss about it.
Having traps just for farming, and having little other use other than the trapper in HA, is stupid. They want to make them less useable for farming, and maybe they'll change traps to make them more versatile.
As for the energy management problem with EW, again, they aren't ruining your pve experience, just stopping people from solo farming in the UW (affects GW economy).
Basically, they aren't doing anything without having thought about it.
Having traps just for farming, and having little other use other than the trapper in HA, is stupid. They want to make them less useable for farming, and maybe they'll change traps to make them more versatile.
As for the energy management problem with EW, again, they aren't ruining your pve experience, just stopping people from solo farming in the UW (affects GW economy).
Basically, they aren't doing anything without having thought about it.
Chicken Ftw
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Dude don't get mad, mostly it is pvp here, you should have expected this reaction. They don't understand what we are talking about and they are scared that they will have a new challenge.
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Stormlord Alex
R.Shayne
Solo farming is important especially when factor in thing like drop rate, over farming, and rarity. The drop rate for stuff like ecto is so low that taking another person seems to hurt more then help. I am currently farming rubies and ecto so I can get armor for my HoM (not to flood the market). I am lucky in the fact that I can get my wife to smite for me every so often, but most of the time I have to drag a smite or ss around behind me.
Solo trapping is over with, the best trapping experience I every had was trapping in the deep. Big group behind me and I would setup traps, pull then the people behind me would clean up. Those days are gone.
Not blaming PvP, blaming ANET for considering only one side.
Solo trapping is over with, the best trapping experience I every had was trapping in the deep. Big group behind me and I would setup traps, pull then the people behind me would clean up. Those days are gone.
Not blaming PvP, blaming ANET for considering only one side.
Aera Lure
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The new nerf on x makes x useless. It was already hard to x as it was, now the x-er has huge energy management problems and the x that he does x don't do any dmg...so he usually dies like a small dog. X is no fun anymore not to mention useless, the guild wars support team told me to post my message here so you guys can view it, agree with me, and give it a 5 rating. Only then will they "consider" my idea.
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angmar_nite
You can still do 8 man teams... last i checked urgoz was still trapped (before the nerf though)
there are SOOO many smite solo builds.
there are SOOO many smite solo builds.
fenix
Posting in serious thread.
Trapping SHOULD be nerfed, it's stupid in HA where there's a small map, because you can't avoid the traps, and if there are lots of them, it's too much pressure. I'm glad they ruined them.
Trapping SHOULD be nerfed, it's stupid in HA where there's a small map, because you can't avoid the traps, and if there are lots of them, it's too much pressure. I'm glad they ruined them.
Crom The Pale
As always I have to state that nerfs are not balance, they need to step up and make skills that counter abused builds rather than destroy the builds.
An assassin skill that disarmed traps would solve the PvP issues and leave the traps alone for PvE use.
That being said traps do still work fine in PvE, just not as effective as before for damage and not useable as solo farming build.
An assassin skill that disarmed traps would solve the PvP issues and leave the traps alone for PvE use.
That being said traps do still work fine in PvE, just not as effective as before for damage and not useable as solo farming build.
Heavenly Messanger
So you expect them to introduce new skills every time someone finds a new build that ends up being over-used? And say, the majority of trappers are in teh UW. So, are they going to put some assassins there to counter the trappers?
I stand by most of the nerfs, because they are just following common sense, whether or not the players like them.
I stand by most of the nerfs, because they are just following common sense, whether or not the players like them.
R.Shayne
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lulz. Someone's obviously new in town. I wish that were true.
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Since we are off topic can someone tell me if this form has an ignore list? Never mind, I will go look it up for myself.
I now return you to your topic about un-nerf trapping.
Instead of nerfing why not just make it harder. The 55 Solo ruled the UW farming until they introduced Dying Nightmares. Why not make it more difficult with larger patrol areas or shortened agro time.
placebo overdose
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well i mean i can trap cuz im leet
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Chicken Ftw
+1 to ignored lists (go me!). Also, +1 bad idea that has nothing to do with why EW was nerfed. This thread gets better the longer it goes.
I MP I
This isn't a serious thread! I knew it!
quickmonty
ANet does not care about solo farmers. Skills are nerfed when PvP'ers QQ. It's a fact of GW life. Even if you managed to get 100 posters to agree with you ANet is not going to change it unless the PvP'ers start asking for a change.
xReLx
lol @ rating a topic.
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ensoriki
They can buff traps and leave EW.
Increasing Trap damage, so they become somewhat of a threat.
Trap the Guild Gates!!
Increasing Trap damage, so they become somewhat of a threat.
Trap the Guild Gates!!
Avarre
Un-nerf serious discussion.