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Online Gamer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

HELL!!

D/Mo

what is your favourite avatar
[skill]Avatar of Balthazar[/skill][skill]Avatar of Grenth[/skill][skill]Avatar of Lyssa[/skill][skill]Avatar of Melandru[/skill][skill]Avatar of Dwayna[/skill]

I like Balthazar and Dwayna

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

Dwayna and Lyssa.
I suppose its
1. Lyssa
2. Dwayna...but its really close so I listed both >.>

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

You forgot Dwayna.

Melandru is the best. Spamming Eviscerate and being immortal = win.
Lyssa is a close second, for silly damage in PvE.

Balth is the worst.
It's a bunch of half-assed buffs that does nothing truly useful.
At least Grenth gets to mosh \m/-.-

[DE]

[DE]

Hugs and Kisses

Join Date: Oct 2005

Scars Meadows

1. Melandru
2. Lyssa
3. Grenth
4. Dwayna
5. Balthazar

Back before the nerf Grenth used to own so much D:

Online Gamer

Online Gamer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

HELL!!

D/Mo

Now that you mention it Balthazar doesnt seem to good any more

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

For Looks
Grenth
Dwayna
Mel
Balth
Lyssa

For usefulness
Dwayna
Lyssa
Mel
Grenth
Balth

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

PvP
1. Melandru
2. Lyssa
3. Dwayna

PvE
1. Lyssa
2. Dwanya
3. Melandru


greneth was nerfed into the dirt.
balthazar is just crap, id rather have conviction and reaper's sweep.

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

W/

For me, it's a tie between Dwayna and Melandru

Chicken Ftw

Chicken Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Tree.

12345

Darkside

Darkside

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Chantry of Secrets

[Angl]

D/

1.Lyssa
2.Melandru/Dwayna (like them both equally)

cellardweller

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

PvE
[skill]Avatar of Lyssa[/skill]>[skill]Avatar of Melandru[/skill]>[skill]Avatar of Dwayna[/skill]>[skill]Avatar of Grenth[/skill]>[skill]Avatar of Balthazar[/skill]

blurmedia

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2007

UNCONTROLLABLE RAGE [moko]

Melandru > Lyssa > Dwayna

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Melandru is the best. Spamming Eviscerate and being immortal = win.
Lyssa is a close second, for silly damage in PvE. We have a winner.

Magikarp

Magikarp

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2007

[HAWK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloneh
PvP
1. Melandru
2. Lyssa
3. Dwayna

PvE
1. Lyssa
2. Dwanya
3. Melandru


greneth was nerfed into the dirt.
balthazar is just crap, id rather have conviction and reaper's sweep.
i agree 110%.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

For PvP, melandru. The rest are pretty crappy. For PvE, melandru > lyssa > dwayna > grenth > balthazar.

yum

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

W/E

1. Balth coz He has a beard.
2. Greth coz his name is Greth.
3. Mel coz I luv nature.

Turbobusa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

By the Luxon Scavenger

The Mentalists [THPK]

N/

I wouldn't know PvE wise but

Melandru
Grenth
Dwayna/lyssa

TBH I don't like lyssa... the damage is very conditionnal and you waste skill slots on survivability whereas with dwayna your elite does the trick. And you're hex free. Very good in low end PvP imo.

distilledwill

distilledwill

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Blighty

The Legion of the Blue Blade

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by yum
2. Greth coz his name is Greth. Except his name isn't Greth.

Anyway, at #1:

[card]Avatar Of Lyssa[/card] oh the damage... THE POWER!

Vulkanyaz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

tree

grenth for looks and whatnot

Whiskeyjack

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

KOFU

Melandru or Lyssa, the rest are not worth the elite slot imo.

blockkiller

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

empty

D/Me

LYSSA:
+20 energy, you don't need any runes of attunement and stuf like that
you hit like 50 more to foes using skils, so versus barragers, nukers and other skilspammers
it's also very long

Bassu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Cracow, Poland.

D/

[skill]Avatar of Melandru[/skill] FTW definitely.
Then, honorable 2nd place goes for [skill]Avatar of Lyssa[/skill]

If I ever run avatar builds I choose between those two.

Bobby2

Bobby2

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2007

Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards

[MaSS]

W/E

S: Cat (EDIT: but razors should be free.)

1. Melandru (overpowered, I daresay)
2. Dwayna (Hex resistance is teh secks)
3. Lyssa (enemy acting = good, enemy not acting = also good)
4. Grenth (charming but largely irrelevant)
5. Balthazar (go play a Warrior.)

Apparently, when it comes to Dervs, females rule.

Turtle222

Turtle222

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

:D:D

D/W

i just wish Lyssa wasnt so...ugly

Edit: i wouldn't mind if they made the form of lyssa as twins

cellardweller

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

I'm honestly surprised by how many people think melandru is better than Lyssa in PvE! My experience with it was its energy cost meant I was often caught without it on, making it a distant second best.

To those that do, how are you managing to find the 25 energy every 30-60 seconds without having to stop and wait for regen between every fight? What sort of bars are you running that can maintain that sort of energy thorughput while still being able to spam attack skills?

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by cellardweller
To those that do, how are you managing to find the 25 energy every 30-60 seconds without having to stop and wait for regen between every fight? What sort of bars are you running that can maintain that sort of energy thorughput while still being able to spam attack skills? I party with good monks.
Good monks use [skill]reversal of fortune[/skill]

Seriously, a prot monk is the answer.

cellardweller

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
I party with good monks.
Good monks use [skill]reversal of fortune[/skill]

Seriously, a prot monk is the answer. You see there's my problem - I party with Mhenlo . I've only ever H/H'd with my Derv because so perhaps that is what is colouring my view. I'll try subbing in a smiter for my channeler hero tonight an see whether it changes my mind.

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
I party with good monks.
Good monks use [skill]reversal of fortune[/skill]

Seriously, a prot monk is the answer. i use Sab's 3 necro build. death nova ends every once in awhile i guess?

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloneh
i use Sab's 3 necro build. death nova ends every once in awhile i guess? WTB Protection monk henchman?

moko

moko

??uo??o??

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by cellardweller
I'm honestly surprised by how many people think melandru is better than Lyssa in PvE! My experience with it was its energy cost meant I was often caught without it on, making it a distant second best.

To those that do, how are you managing to find the 25 energy every 30-60 seconds without having to stop and wait for regen between every fight? What sort of bars are you running that can maintain that sort of energy thorughput while still being able to spam attack skills? i'm using a staff!

guess that's too hard to use for dervishes, eh?

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
WTB Protection monk henchman?
they dont spam RoF and other enchantments, they mostly just maintain prot spirit on the whole group.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mokone
i'm using a staff!

guess that's too hard to use for dervishes, eh? uhm, when you switch back to your scythe after casting melandru you will have negative energy. how can you even pretend thats a viable build?

moko

moko

??uo??o??

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloneh
uhm, when you switch back to your scythe after casting melandru you will have negative energy. how can you even pretend thats a viable build? uhm, who cares? Dervs have good damage by simply cspacing, with their AoE scythe, that deals quite good damage. so, who cares that you can't use your attack skills for 10 seconds?

maybe it matters to you with your 6 earth prayers enchantments, but to good players, it clearly doesn't, no.

how can you even pretend you know stuff about dervs?

Tab

Tab

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2006

Under a bridge

Team Quitter [QQ]

Mo/

Moko lays down the smack ;o

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Dwayna,Balthazar and Melandru although Dwayna looks the best.

The Meth

The Meth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/

For PvE I would say lyssa, simply because its about damage. The reason wammos shouldn't use healing hands is the same reason dervishes shouldnt use their elite just to protect themself (albeit a unfair comparison of elites, the usage is the same), for pve you just want to kill things.

For PvP: Melandru... just because.

cellardweller

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mokone
uhm, who cares? Dervs have good damage by simply cspacing, with their AoE scythe, that deals quite good damage. so, who cares that you can't use your attack skills for 10 seconds? When the average pve battle lasts 5-15 seconds, yes its a big deal you can't use them for 10. For Melandru to compare to Lyssa, it needs to unload a deep wound through wearying strike at least once every 3ish seconds (the time it takes lyssa to do 100 damage) - its not going to do that autoattacking.

Teh [prefession]-zorz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

wisconsin

Spiders Lair Kurz [SpL]

W/A

Mel. hands down...

Lyssa second.

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mokone
uhm, who cares? Dervs have good damage by simply cspacing, with their AoE scythe, that deals quite good damage. so, who cares that you can't use your attack skills for 10 seconds?

maybe it matters to you with your 6 earth prayers enchantments, but to good players, it clearly doesn't, no.

how can you even pretend you know stuff about dervs? excuse me? 10 seconds without attacks skills is a damn long time. and i dont use 6 earth prayers enchantments, I use lyssa, which out-damages your auto attacks without even trying. and news flash, dead mobs dont apply conditions. Cspacing dosnt deal guite good damage, wild blow deals quite good damage.

The Meth

The Meth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloneh
excuse me? 10 seconds without attacks skills is a damn long time. and i dont use 6 earth prayers enchantments, I use lyssa, which out-damages your auto attacks without even trying. and news flash, dead mobs dont apply conditions. Cspacing dosnt deal guite good damage, wild blow deals quite good damage. While I'm not arguing that melandrus is really ever that useful in pve outside of mass blindbot areas, I have to point out that a zealous scythe with IAS gives you nearly an 8 effective energy regen boost. Also, its not like anyone ever thought of pre-casting a skill that lasts over a minute.

moko

moko

??uo??o??

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloneh
excuse me? 10 seconds without attacks skills is a damn long time. and i dont use 6 earth prayers enchantments, I use lyssa, which out-damages your auto attacks without even trying. and news flash, dead mobs dont apply conditions. Cspacing dosnt deal guite good damage, wild blow deals quite good damage. now, i'm just waiting for you to point out where i said that i was comparing lyssa with full energy pool with melandru with no energy.

simply saying there's a way to keep melandru up, kk?

and news flash, there's stuff outside of NM that doesn't die in 3 seconds.