i am lvl 17 R/Rit factions and doing PvE. i do get slaughtered when the monsters get past my front line and attack me, nugent is not very good. i am at the point of going for some elite skills. Which are the best first two elite skills to get to make life more fun in guild wars?
thx
first elite skills?
khanites
The Way Out
For a Ranger... I think the most handy in PvE is Barrage. It is low cost energy and anyone can run it. Barrage with a pet is awesome for new players. Give you that added meat up front to continue to Barrage. Ranger have some of the best Elites in the game. I would have you choose Barrage, though.
Sir Pandra Pierva
[skill]Broad head Arrow[/skill]
lennymon
Well, the best for ranger available in Factions are easily [wiki]Broadhead Arrow[/wiki], [wiki]Barrage[/wiki], [wiki]Enraged Lunge[/wiki], [wiki]Glass Arrows[/wiki], [wiki]Heal as One[/wiki] and [wiki]Famine[/wiki].
I'd say that for factions, Barrage, Glass Arrows and Broadhead are the most useful for storyline and such, Famine is more of a farming tool (at least I haven't heard of any other awesome applications) and the beastmastery stuff is good for arenas/AB as well as just for fun PVE. There's also actually some solo farming builds somewhere from way back when using pure beastmastery.
I'd say that for factions, Barrage, Glass Arrows and Broadhead are the most useful for storyline and such, Famine is more of a farming tool (at least I haven't heard of any other awesome applications) and the beastmastery stuff is good for arenas/AB as well as just for fun PVE. There's also actually some solo farming builds somewhere from way back when using pure beastmastery.
khanites
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but i will play in nightfall and the new expansion. So i guess the same best first elites count for nightfall as well.
but i will play in nightfall and the new expansion. So i guess the same best first elites count for nightfall as well.
John Panda
Most fun is deffinately(SP) BHA dazing your opponent to death is leet fun. (:
I M O
I M O
The Way Out
Either way, if you have just Nightfall, go Bathazaar and cap unlock Barrage and get a tome. IMHO Barrage is the most dependable Elite a Ranger can have when moving through storyline and mission. I agree that it sucks in PvP and it sux when farming.
Marverick
[skill]Burning Arrow[/skill]
Pretty much the most versatile elite, it can be handy in almost every area except Destroyer mobs.
Barrage sucks, and it's definitely one of the least dependable elites, if not THE least dependable... [wiki]Volley[/wiki] + [skill=text]Splinter Weapon[/skill] and a more useful elite > Barrage anyday with the SW nerf, only 3 arrows will trigger SW so you don't need 7 arrows from Barrage.
Pretty much the most versatile elite, it can be handy in almost every area except Destroyer mobs.
Barrage sucks, and it's definitely one of the least dependable elites, if not THE least dependable... [wiki]Volley[/wiki] + [skill=text]Splinter Weapon[/skill] and a more useful elite > Barrage anyday with the SW nerf, only 3 arrows will trigger SW so you don't need 7 arrows from Barrage.
Turtle222
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Barrage sucks, and it's definitely one of the least dependable elites, if not THE least dependable... [wiki]Volley[/wiki] + [skill=text]Splinter Weapon[/skill] and a more useful elite > Barrage anyday with the SW nerf, only 3 arrows will trigger SW so you don't need 7 arrows from Barrage. my overall DPS is double yours by using barrage. *locks briefcase* good day
Barrage sucks, and it's definitely one of the least dependable elites, if not THE least dependable... [wiki]Volley[/wiki] + [skill=text]Splinter Weapon[/skill] and a more useful elite > Barrage anyday with the SW nerf, only 3 arrows will trigger SW so you don't need 7 arrows from Barrage. my overall DPS is double yours by using barrage. *locks briefcase* good day
khanites
i would have thought concentrating on one moster and killing it quickly may be better than spreading the "love"/damge on a number of creatures. So an elite that does more damge to one creature is better than barrage but which one is it?
Turtle222
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Originally Posted by khanites
i would have thought concentrating on one moster and killing it quickly may be better than spreading the "love"/damge on a number of creatures. So an elite that does more damge to one creature is better than barrage but which one is it?
well...it depends on how you look at it. see for me, i think its best to use barrage because i can "spread the love" as you put it as well as interrupt the hell out of the enemy if i choose. i suppose its a matter of preference.
khanites
also am i right in thinking that if i use poison on barrage than more creatures would get poisoned.
also which is better to use kindle and get 10+ or use poison for 7 secs? i could use both but i am then using energy.
thx
also which is better to use kindle and get 10+ or use poison for 7 secs? i could use both but i am then using energy.
thx
Turtle222
Barrage removes any preparation so you wont be able to spread it.
Wakka
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As for my favourite, at the minute its probably [skill=text]Magebane Shot[/skill] Dont know why no one has said it yet
lennymon
Magebane is less of a PVE awesome, and more a PVP awesome but it's a must have. It's also not so early in Nightfall as Burning arrow. For Nightfall, get Burning Arrow (first), Smoke Trap and Magebane are right next to each other in desolation and are both very good. Your last must have from NF in my opinion is Prepared Shot. One optional I'd also get but get with faction or whenever you want to use in PVP is Rampage as Pwn (one) as it's a thumper standard. Some will also argue Experts Dexterity, but meh up to you.
Joker
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my overall DPS is double yours by using barrage. *locks briefcase* good day
Barrage is an awesome elite, I will just say that more often than not I find that the extra arrows are wasted, because you generally don't find an area where you consistently have more than 3 enemies at a time clustered up perfectly for barrage.
Marverick
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my overall DPS is double yours by using barrage. *locks briefcase* good day
and once that mob disperses my usefulness is 10 times that of yours so good day sir
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Teh [prefession]-zorz
burning arrrowwww
Cjad the Nord
Broadhead Arrow in Factions, Burning Arrow and Rampage as One in Nightfall.
I used to use Barrage because it was the only Elite I had. Boy, am I glad I started capping other skills. That isn't to say Barrage is without its usefulness; despite the recent nerf to Splinter Weapon, Splinter Barragers still dish out some crazy damage, especially if you're using a zealous bow for sustained output, or vampiric one for added damage.
I used to use Barrage because it was the only Elite I had. Boy, am I glad I started capping other skills. That isn't to say Barrage is without its usefulness; despite the recent nerf to Splinter Weapon, Splinter Barragers still dish out some crazy damage, especially if you're using a zealous bow for sustained output, or vampiric one for added damage.
Wakka
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Utaku
Barrage is so brainless.
I'd rather load a pvp burning arrow build and screw around with it in pve. At least I spread poison and interrupt stuff.
I'd rather load a pvp burning arrow build and screw around with it in pve. At least I spread poison and interrupt stuff.
Lourens
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Barrage is so brainless.
I'd rather load a pvp burning arrow build and screw around with it in pve. At least I spread poison and interrupt stuff. ^ agree
barrage is so boring in these times
I'd rather load a pvp burning arrow build and screw around with it in pve. At least I spread poison and interrupt stuff. ^ agree
barrage is so boring in these times
khanites
also i would have thought barrage would leave more monsters around longer for them to attack the melee people.
How good is burn compared to bleed or poison in terms of overall damage per equal second?
How good is burn compared to bleed or poison in terms of overall damage per equal second?
Utaku
Bleed = 6dps
Poison = 8dps
Burning = 14dps
Poison = 8dps
Burning = 14dps
khanites
also do these conditions stack like poison and burn would have 8+14 DPS?
Wakka
Yes, but there is a cap on a health degen of 10, which is 20dps
Joker
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Originally Posted by Utaku
Bleed = 6dps
Poison = 8dps
Burning = 14dps Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't burning -6 pips of health degeneration? So wouldn't that be 12 dps?
Poison = 8dps
Burning = 14dps Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't burning -6 pips of health degeneration? So wouldn't that be 12 dps?
Wakka
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lennymon
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Its great in PvE NM and just average in HM. Requires a decent amount of skill to use it efficently thought ^^ But one of the best interrupts in the game (in terms of energy and recharge)
I admit I'm a HMer, so BHA is just working better for me in PVE
fishy go moo
ferouchis strike yes spelled wrong but use it on a BM
Moonlit Azure
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Its great in PvE NM and just average in HM. Requires a decent amount of skill to use it efficently thought ^^ But one of the best interrupts in the game (in terms of energy and recharge)
I live by Magebane in pvp.
I've been interrupting so long that I don't need daze all that much. I'm pretty good at predicting casting, and have pretty good reflexs to back it up.
Also magebane activated hella fast!
I've been interrupting so long that I don't need daze all that much. I'm pretty good at predicting casting, and have pretty good reflexs to back it up.
Also magebane activated hella fast!
distilledwill
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Originally Posted by khanites
i would have thought concentrating on one moster and killing it quickly may be better than spreading the "love"/damge on a number of creatures. So an elite that does more damge to one creature is better than barrage but which one is it?
you can do both:
[card]Burning Arrow[/card] or [card]Broad Head Arrow[/card] + [card]Apply Poison[/card] + [card]Epidemic[/card]
/win
[card]Burning Arrow[/card] or [card]Broad Head Arrow[/card] + [card]Apply Poison[/card] + [card]Epidemic[/card]
/win
Wakka
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Try doing the same to the pop-up Touchers in Duncans
easy enough to catch Vamp Bite/Touch (Pity thier not spells though, Magebane doesnt trigger 
)
Mahanaxar
Broad Head Arrow makes pve SO much easier, both NM and HM.
khanites
i am sorry what does NM and HM stand for?
Wakka
NM = Normal Mode
HM = Hard Mode
HM = Hard Mode
khanites
can somebody help me as lvl 20 R/Rit? As a ranger i get overwhelmed very quickly by the large number of creatures particularly assassins which is making my life difficult and daunting. I also have a warrior and i may actually turn to the warrior for playtime. Please help me stick with the ranger since i like its style of play. I have tried splinter, not helpful but do not have barrage or burning arrow as yet.
Utaku
If you get overwhelmed you need to pay more attention to engaging one group of ennemies at a time. This way, even with crappy shing jea henchmen, you can't fail.
Wakka
From what you have told me the problem seems to be that you are tryin to play a Ranger like a Warrior.I dont think the answer is a matter of a high damager output but more of learning to kite away from damage and letting a higher AL protted character take the brunt of the onslaught.
Try buying [skill=text]Natural Stride[/skill] and rather than standing in the one spot, the moment your getting hit hammer Natural Stride and re-position yourself. That should help you survive a little longer
Try buying [skill=text]Natural Stride[/skill] and rather than standing in the one spot, the moment your getting hit hammer Natural Stride and re-position yourself. That should help you survive a little longer