My Paragon Build, need suggestions!

Fluffy Butt

Fluffy Butt

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

W/Mo

20 Dec 2007 at 21:35 - 1
My paragon/warrior is level 17, still stuck on the noob island and has good skills... I want it to be a support paragon with Chant skills. .
The farthest place I've been in the last mission in Prophices (Free glitch runner... he nicely did it for me for free... He was going to charge 5k... Cheap money ) So I don't have much choices in elite skills .
I currently have two elite skills because of tomes . Oh by the way, I'm going for surviver .

Here are my skills
[card]Song of Restoration[/card][card]Ballad of Restoration[/card][card]Aria of Restoration[/card][card]Anthem of Flame[/card][card]Aria of Zeal[/card][card]Zealous Anthem[/card][card]Song of Power[/card][card]Signet of Return[/card]

Remember I want to be a supporter, not full on or semi atttack.
I want to know what can be improved. I'm looking for skills that can increase attack for all my allies. Something that effects all, but Anthem of Envy I don't like. Also skills that heal good, mostly on entire party, or skills with quick recharge and can be cast on multiple targets w/o haveing to put a constant recast every 10 seconds.

Turtle222

Turtle222

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

:D:D

D/W

20 Dec 2007 at 21:48 - 2
well if you dont want any damage...then perhaps a bit of adrenaline would help with your energy management. try using "Watch yourself" or "Go for the eyes"

nembool

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2007

UK

SHS

20 Dec 2007 at 22:01 - 3
To echo the above post, Racthoh's build (using There's Nothing To Fear/Save Yourselves/Focused Anger/Aggressive Refrain) is very good.

If, like me, you haven't got enough Kurzick/Luxon faction to get Save Yourselves, then try the following build.

Spear of Lightning
Aggressive Refrain
Go For The Eyes!
Shields Up!
Watch Yourself
Stand Your Ground
There's Nothing To Fear
Signet of Return

One spear attack skill, one IAS skill, one party-wide damage booster, four party-wide damage reduction skills and a rez. The two adrenaline skills, GFTE and WY, will help tremendously in keeping up your energy and Aggressive Refrain. Just remember to alternate the armour-boosting skills, as multiple armour buffs cap out at +25 (which is why Save Yourselves is so good).

This build got me as far as Level 1 survivor (where I was able to get Focused Anger, so swapped out Stand Your Ground). Currently working slowly towards Indomitable Survivor.

Terraban

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

20 Dec 2007 at 22:14 - 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fluffy Butt

Remember I want to be a supporter, not full on or semi atttack.
Then be a monk or a necromancer, otherwise you are just a bad Paragon.

Fluffy Butt

Fluffy Butt

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

W/Mo

21 Dec 2007 at 01:33 - 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Terraban
Then be a monk or a necromancer, otherwise you are just a bad Paragon. You don't seem to understand, I don't want all heal. I want to keep my team alive, and help them do damage. Isn't that what a supporter does? Out of my 2 elite skills I do have focused anger. Nembool,awesome build, I'm going to try it.

Terraban

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

21 Dec 2007 at 01:50 - 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fluffy Butt
You don't seem to understand, I don't want all heal. I want to keep my team alive, and help them do damage. Isn't that what a supporter does? Out of my 2 elite skills I do have focused anger. Nembool,awesome build, I'm going to try it. Yes that is what a supporter does, but a Paragon that is full support with no damage fails.

Brian the Gladiator

Brian the Gladiator

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Michigan, USA

Us Are Not [leet]

E/

22 Dec 2007 at 01:14 - 7
You say that all you want to do is support your team. Paragons have the best ranged damage output in the entire game. To not put any damage on your bar would be crippling yourself and your team. My suggestion is to support your team with good skills but don't sacrifice your ability to deal damage either.

[skill]spear of lightning[/skill][skill]vicious attack[/skill][skill]"watch yourself!"[/skill][skill]"go for the eyes!"[/skill][skill]ballad of restoration[/skill][skill]song of restoration[/skill][skill]aggressive refrain[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
Spear Mastery --> 9+1+1 (11)
Command --> 2+1 (3)
Leadership --> 11+1 (12)
Motivation --> 10+1 (11)
Tactics --> 4

Targuil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Tampere, Finland

Keep Dreaming [Yawn]

E/

22 Dec 2007 at 06:47 - 8
*God mode warning*

Spear of fury, "save yourselves","there's nothing to fear"[skill]wild throw[/skill][skill]focused anger[/skill][skill]aggressive refrain[/skill][skill]anthem of flame[/skill][skill]signet of return[/skill]

Anthem can be changed to something else if you like. Basically You guarantee god mode to all other members to party. This is enough to put any non armor ignoring dmg down. Now other members can focus on damage or getting rid condition masses and hexes. But only downside is: you really cant aggro group without being sure you're safe. Everyone will be targeting you coz 100 lower armor rating. And spam "save yourselves" like no tomorrow (sometimes there really is no tomorrow without spamming)
Combine with two other paragons and kiss goodbye to almost everything.

wazz

wazz

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

WML, MELL, RUNI

P/

22 Dec 2007 at 10:07 - 9
For some reason I have to disagree with said above:
the hostiles don't target you.
Infact if they attack the person with the 'lowest' armour they seem to look at the armour itself not including armour debuffs (cracked armour) or buffs (save yourself).
Well that always seems to happen to me.

Also IMO when using SY it is best not to use other adraline based stuff.

Targuil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Tampere, Finland

Keep Dreaming [Yawn]

E/

23 Dec 2007 at 12:58 - 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by wazz
For some reason I have to disagree with said above:
the hostiles don't target you.
Infact if they attack the person with the 'lowest' armour they seem to look at the armour itself not including armour debuffs (cracked armour) or buffs (save yourself).
Well that always seems to happen to me.

Also IMO when using SY it is best not to use other adraline based stuff. Explain me why they almost always target me then? I have 635 hp and 80+8 armor (shield doesn't meet req). And for adrenaline skills, who cares, I run anthem of fury paragon with me to make sure i have adrenaline.

wazz

wazz

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

WML, MELL, RUNI

P/

23 Dec 2007 at 13:16 - 11
well I wouldn't know guess they hate you for some reason.
But on all the areas I vanquished I used sy+ar+... and most of the time I was the last man standing... and AI doesn't look smart enough to start counting really.

btw shield doesn't meet req ??? when using that build ? you go 12 spear ? okay...

Well even with anthem of fury on a hero you still should have only sy running as the only adraline skill on your bar even if it is only for safety IMO.

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

W/

24 Dec 2007 at 02:57 - 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by wazz
Well even with anthem of fury on a hero you still should have only sy running as the only adraline skill on your bar even if it is only for safety IMO. Why? It's not like a few seconds without +100 armour will wipe your party

Woop Shotty

Woop Shotty

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ruthless Mafia [RM]

Mo/

24 Dec 2007 at 03:04 - 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by Terraban
Then be a monk or a necromancer, otherwise you are just a bad Paragon. That's the exact same as calling a prot monk useless. That's bull and that comes from an unexperienced player.

Terraban

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

24 Dec 2007 at 06:43 - 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Woop Shotty
That's the exact same as calling a prot monk useless. That's bull and that comes from an unexperienced player. Then ask any of the known-to-be experienced players on here....

A pure support Paragon fails.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

24 Dec 2007 at 07:53 - 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian the Gladiator
[skill]spear of lightning[/skill][skill]vicious attack[/skill][skill]"watch yourself!"[/skill][skill]"go for the eyes!"[/skill][skill]ballad of restoration[/skill][skill]song of restoration[/skill][skill]aggressive refrain[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
Spear Mastery --> 9+1+1 (11)
Command --> 2+1 (3)
Leadership --> 11+1 (12)
Motivation --> 10+1 (11)
Tactics --> 4
Personally I'd drop the command rune for either a Vitae or Clarity rune. The slightly higher critical % chance won't be missed on GftE!.

Quote: Originally Posted by wazz Well even with anthem of fury on a hero you still should have only sy running as the only adraline skill on your bar even if it is only for safety IMO. Quote: Originally Posted by Blue.Rellik Why? It's not like a few seconds without +100 armour will wipe your party Depends on the area. Charr Flameshielder dropping a Meteor Shower in hard mode on a ball of henchmen with the Firestorm already going and the Charr Axe Wielder just landed a Bull's Strike (on Mhenlo, again) will lead to a wipe if that SY drops at the wrong moment. I know in those situations I'm mashing SY while rocks slam into the rest of my group's face.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Targuil
Explain me why they almost always target me then? If you're running in first there is a good chance you'll be hit regardless of your AL or health. I'll always approach a group, call a target so everything else runs in, and I never seem to get attacked. I'll get hit by the odd AoE spell, or if something that is being attacked kites through me the chasing mob will change focus.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terraban
A pure support Paragon fails. Agreed. Pure support paragons bring the same, if not more, skills to move the bars up than a monk does. Something is wrong with that.

wazz

wazz

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

WML, MELL, RUNI

P/

24 Dec 2007 at 08:57 - 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by blue.rellik
Why? It's not like a few seconds without +100 armour will wipe your party When it comes to NM your right.
But try jade brooderhood on HM... these guys can teamwhipe you verry fast (and they love to mob up). SY is a lifesaver here. There are alot of other mobs that can cause the same thing so if you are fighting on HM.
It is way safer to spamm sy all the time.