I was just wondering, because people always take heroes instead of hench when they're in a party. Is it just because you can give your heroes specific weapons/armor etc which you can't do with hench? Or is it because heroes have better AI & therefore know how to cope better with certain situations etc?
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Why Are Heroes Superior To Hench?
Vanchatron
my2cent
1:able to be customised with with skill/proffession/weapon
2:u can flag heroes individualy hench u cant.
2:u can flag heroes individualy hench u cant.
Avarre
You can give them skillbars that aren't terrible.
roguey
with heroes you can adjust them and select which skills you want them to have. As you know some skills are better than others and the hench skills can range. Heroes also have 2 professions unlike hench's 1, again improving skills. The usage of runes also help boost skills.
You can also flag each hero (put healer at the back for example).
When they made the hero, it really killed off a lot of cooperative game play for many people.
You can also flag each hero (put healer at the back for example).
When they made the hero, it really killed off a lot of cooperative game play for many people.
Vanchatron
Thanks a lot 
Kale Ironfist
Runes
Insignia
Weapons with mods
Proper skillbars
Individual flagging
What's not to like?
Insignia
Weapons with mods
Proper skillbars
Individual flagging
What's not to like?
Da Mad M00
And add the ability to micro manage them. For example make someone cast Protective Spirit on you before you pull that one nasty group and things like that 
Darkobra
Repeatable resurrects, more than 4 skills... Good ones at that.
Crom The Pale
Heros allow you to build a party with complimentary skills. You can customized thier skills to match perfectly with the map you are on allowing for a much easier time.
Smile Like Umean It
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Repeatable resurrects, more than 4 skills... Good ones at that.
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The potential and concept of the heroes are great, but if you and your bar suck they will too.
So, yeah, while heroes are in general better for those very same reasons list above they can also be worse.
IslandHermet
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Originally Posted by Vanchatron
I was just wondering, because people always take heroes instead of hench when they're in a party. Is it just because you can give your heroes specific weapons/armor etc which you can't do with hench? Or is it because heroes have better AI & therefore know how to cope better with certain situations etc?
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Hero's are completly custom, Skill bars, weapons, armor, runes and insigs, and 3 different preprogrammed AI modes, Attack,Guard,Avoid and can be locked on to targets as well as controled by flaging.
The real question is why did you ask such a dumb question that everyone in the entire GW world should know?
Olim Chill
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Hero's are completly custom, Skill bars, weapons, armor, runes and insigs, and 3 different preprogrammed AI modes, Attack,Guard,Avoid and can be locked on to targets as well as controled by flaging.
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rubina1
Where can I find more information about these hero-henchmen?
Darkobra
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But only as good as the player who has them.
The potential and concept of the heroes are great, but if you and your bar suck they will too. So, yeah, while heroes are in general better for those very same reasons list above they can also be worse. |
We didn't finish the mission because his assassin friend had control of the two monk heroes and charged in to battle things on the other end of the map. Although we didn't die, he was too far away with the monk heroes when Confessor Dorian was desperately needing healing.
Olim Chill
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Where can I find more information about these hero-henchmen?
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oresteez
Too bad heroes makes this game more like a single-player dungeon crawler.
Coridan
Oresteez...while i do agree in part with that...what you need to do is find a really active guild that's focus is on creating groups and clearing areas with guild members
anonymous
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Too bad heroes makes this game more like a single-player dungeon crawler.
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oresteez
I do have to find more of an active guild...that's just my initial feelings...and I've only been playing a little less than 2 weeks now...I do really like this game...but I don't feel the social interaction or interactivity like I felt in WoW...
I guess it's just a tradeoff..either that or I'm just not seeing it..YET.
I guess it's just a tradeoff..either that or I'm just not seeing it..YET.
anonymous
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I do have to find more of an active guild...that's just my initial feelings...and I've only been playing a little less than 2 weeks now...I do really like this game...but I don't feel the social interaction or interactivity like I felt in WoW...
I guess it's just a tradeoff..either that or I'm just not seeing it..YET. |
Wirt
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I do have to find more of an active guild...that's just my initial feelings...and I've only been playing a little less than 2 weeks now...I do really like this game...but I don't feel the social interaction or interactivity like I felt in WoW...
I guess it's just a tradeoff..either that or I'm just not seeing it..YET. |
Anyways, if you dont get much interaction or chat or help from guildies, try out other guilds, or get a good friend list going, chatting it up with them.
To the OP, the heros are much better than henches mainly due to the customizable skill bar. However if you are just starting, you wont have many skills unlocked and the heros wont initially be much better than henches. Once you get skills unlocked across all professions and know how to control and flag well, they will be a significant improvement over henches. Henches in my opinion are still .... ok, but I use my heros to do the heavy lifting.
Smile Like Umean It
What's the difference between playing with a guild and playing with H/H? When I'm with hench, more likely than not I'm chatting on guild or to people on my friends list. So, I'm still being social, which people seem to think the opposite of when playing with H/H, but either way I'm not going to be in town to group with other people.
That's why I said you andyour bar.
But there are people who have half decent bars and still no clue how to use them correctly. So, that could go either way.
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Half the time, a bar doesn't define a player. I was playing with an elementalist in hard mode today. His build wasn't TERRIBLE, just not very energy efficient for the power he was churning out. He was still learning the game and didn't have very many skills. With those skills he used, (he actually took a snare for melee, believe it or not. I was impressed with that.) he was actually BETTER than most of the PUGS I've come across.
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But there are people who have half decent bars and still no clue how to use them correctly. So, that could go either way.
Biostem
I really don't understand this "they took our job" mentality a lot of people have about heroes destroying play w/ real people; if the real players weren't so whiney and didn't take so gosh-darn long just to get their act together, I'd play w/ PUGs all the time. But since we're all human, and thus have the qualities I mentioned before, it shouldn't be surprising that heroes/henchmen are preferable.
Regardless, heroes also allow you to take advantage of all the previous work you did unlocking skills, elites, items, etc. They follow your instructions (mostly) and you know what to expect; there's no monk w/ no res, or dervishes that cream themselves over avatar of balthazar.
Anyway, you play your way, and I'll play mine - and that's the best way to go of all!
Regardless, heroes also allow you to take advantage of all the previous work you did unlocking skills, elites, items, etc. They follow your instructions (mostly) and you know what to expect; there's no monk w/ no res, or dervishes that cream themselves over avatar of balthazar.
Anyway, you play your way, and I'll play mine - and that's the best way to go of all!
Nemo the Capitalist
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You can give them skillbars that aren't terrible.
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Sakura Az
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there's no monk w/ no res
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back to topic.. heros are awesome becuase you can chose thierbuild, weapons, runes and everything. making them a ton better than henchis, plus you can control thier nearly every move.
Quaker
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I do have to find more of an active guild...that's just my initial feelings...and I've only been playing a little less than 2 weeks now...I do really like this game...but I don't feel the social interaction or interactivity like I felt in WoW...
I guess it's just a tradeoff..either that or I'm just not seeing it..YET. |
Kiragi Yagami
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And Vekk can kill enemies with his brain. Sold.
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back on topic, heroes allow much more flexibility in the team build you want to run. if you want a MM, SS necro and a Smiting monk for example, you can go right ahead and do that. (used those examples because as far as i know theres no MM, SS, or smiting henchies out there.
Darkobra
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as a monk.. i never carry rez, would rather carry something liek aegis and gole to keep the party alive better instead of having to let someone die. and as a monk 3 seconds for a rez sig is alonggg time for the party to not have any healing or prot power.
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Smile Like Umean It
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as a monk.. i never carry rez, would rather carry something liek aegis and gole to keep the party alive better instead of having to let someone die. and as a monk 3 seconds for a rez sig is alonggg time for the party to not have any healing or prot power.
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I don't understand the mentality of people who think everyone should stop what they're doing and race to see who can res them the fastest. I saw that a lot on my monk when I used to go to Fow. Usually from the 'tank' who has a skill bar of 5 attack skills, vig spirit, mending and ressurect/endure. They just couldn't fathom why I said no and wait.