How to stop Leeroy Heroes?

Zaxan Razor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

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Hey guys!

I've been playing this game for ages, I'm very experienced with H/H for vanquishing, but there is one thing that really frustrates me. My curses necro (from sab's build) always turns into a Leeroy, whether it be Livia, Olias or Master. I always flag my heroes for every pull. This doesn't stop my curses necro from running into the middle of a group to cast Spiteful Spirit, instead of standing well back and casting it.

In harder areas, this often leads to my team getting wiped, or, even in the best case scenario, makes the curses necro useless because he stacks up dp. You can't put him on avoid combat because then he doesn't cast his hexes.

I've noticed the same thing with Zhed and Vekk too, no matter what build you give them, they will stand right at the front attracting all the aggro. Is it something to do with their ai trying to target as many foes as possible with their spells? (ie reckless haste and searing flames?)

Has anyone managed to stop this from happening?

onerabbit

onerabbit

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

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Are you Warrior becuase i have this prloblem too, alot of my caster friends dont.

even if i put them on avoid, they will still stay by my side until we hit combat and then there in the bloody middle then.

Jack The Wretched

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

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I have the same problem ... Warrior too :S, my MoW just Leeroy's right next to me ... even if hes flagged :/

Railin

Railin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Flag your heroes.

Smile Like Umean It

Smile Like Umean It

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by onerabbit
Are you Warrior becuase i have this prloblem too, alot of my caster friends dont.

even if i put them on avoid, they will still stay by my side until we hit combat and then there in the bloody middle then. Have you tried calling before you actually get to the group? Or flagging them back farther?

distilledwill

distilledwill

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Blighty

The Legion of the Blue Blade

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Railin
Flag your heroes. If you read the OP, it actually says that he flags his heroes for every pull.

Anyway, I have exactly the same problem. My MoW (curses necro from Sabs builds) always leeroys forward. It lead to several wipes whilst vanquishing Jahai Bluffs today.

gizzt

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

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Same Problem, i spam Save Yourselves! as D-Slash warrior and it helps the curse necro tank... And mobs are often more interested in killing my death necros minions as well..... Or after ur curse necro has 60% dp you could turn it into a tank with prot spirit...

But yer, i have no idea how to stop this from happening...

gnome

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

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i no what u mean...
my zhed is a captain rambo, esp when he's on sf...but my vekk has no problems, even with the same build. ofc they have the guard setting on =)
its the same with margrid when shes playing BHA, but nothing like the leeroy style comes when i'm playing with pyre. MoW, as you have already mentioned, is also an idiot. those 3 always end up on 60% while the rest are on a max of 15%...its a bit like a m8 of mine tbh ^^

hmm...Bugged heroes or builds?

onerabbit

onerabbit

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by gizzt
Same Problem, i spam Save Yourselves! as D-Slash warrior and it helps the curse necro tank... And mobs are often more interested in killing my death necros minions as well..... Or after ur curse necro has 60% dp you could turn it into a tank with prot spirit...

But yer, i have no idea how to stop this from happening...
i run the same build too, just to save the leeroys.

Amy Awien

Amy Awien

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

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Not sure if it's been mentioned, but skills and spells that effect foes in the area around the caster could cause them charge in.

Shadowmere

Shadowmere

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Amy Awien
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but skills and spells that effect foes in the area around the caster could cause them charge in. That's very true, I've noticed whenever a ranger hero of mine has throw dirt they insist on using it offensively and charge in to use it.

Although I can't imagine why the original poster's curses necro would have a spell like that, unless they were using dark aura for some reason?

Zaxan Razor

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Yep, I play warrior, and yea, I'm sure Olias does it when he's casting reckless haste, he has to try and get as many foes as possible. Which is fine, but he just stands at the front with me no matter how far back I flag them, and he won't move until he dies. He doesn't kite at all. And like I said, if you put him on avoid contact he won't cast anything.

And why do i use reckless haste? Because his elite is spiteful spirit. Spiteful Spirit + reckless haste = enemy missing and taking 2x as much damage from Spiteful.