Scatter!

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

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Ok, so I decided I would join a PuG *gasp* (ya it wasn't a good idea) for FoW. So the typical tank (OF) aggroes and ping for us to attack. I use Rodgorts Invocation and suddenly these people start going crazy.. "omfg who is using burning, it scatters the foes". So my question is... does burning cause the foes to scatter? I mean, I know firestorm and other AoE nukes cause scatter and it has been well over 2 years now that I have been playing and its the first time I hear someone say that burning will scatter the foes.

Thanks, Molock

Darkobra

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

No. At least not in other areas of the game. When I used fire, I used Mark of Rodgort all the time. It didn't cause scatter. It's only when AoE is brought into it they will.

BigDave

BigDave

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Manchester, UK

The Sapphire Rose [TSR]

I've played Ele a LOT for over 18 months now and i've never, ever heard that burning causes scatter. To my knowledge the only thing that causes scatter is repeated, AoE hits from spells/skills like firestorm and the like.

I'd say you joined a bad PUG.

thelessa

thelessa

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

Purple Puzycats

R/Mo

From my experience it has been Fire Storm that causes the scatter.

T. Drake

T. Drake

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

R/Me

omfg don't use Poison they will scatter noob!
Seriously I never saw mobs running away from conditions.
PUGs become even more stupid as the game gets older ...

DarkFlame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ascalon

E/

Burning does not cause scatter, only AoEs. They probably just see the burning and assume you are are using something else like SF. Its a pug anyway, so you shouldn't expect much in terms people paying attention to those details.

KANE OG

KANE OG

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ogmios Graybeards

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Ele from a week after release. No. tell those people (if they're still on your list) that they're dumbasses, and burning does not cause foes to "scatter".

KANE

Steboy93

Steboy93

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Feb 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] | Ex-Officer [TAM]

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Lol, you can tell it was a bad PuG because they were using a tank in FoW

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

No, burning does not cause scatter.

What you winessed is merely more evidence than humanity is breeding itself in extinction.

Darkobra

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by KANE OG
Ele from a week after release. No. tell those people (if they're still on your list) that they're dumbasses, and burning does not cause foes to "scatter".

KANE
I've been the same. Except I dabbled in necromancy for a bit. Always come home to the elementalist though. I was elementalist in the beta, too. Back before they ran from firestorm. In the many months and years I have played, never, EVER has burning made them run. So yeah. You get the general drift now.

BFG

BFG

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Lost

DCSB

One more reason I dislike joining PuGs. You join a forming group and have to argue with some people about your build because they are poor studies of the game. I sometimes keep a local AoE spell on the end of my bar for those times when a not-so-adept tank runs back through our casters instead of holding aggro and brings the mob with him.

Zebideedee

Zebideedee

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

55?? 57' 0" N / 3?? 12' 0" W

N/Me

erm, whats a PUG?

isamu kurosawa

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebideedee
erm, whats a PUG?
You don't want to know.

Keep away.

Saphatorael

Saphatorael

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

Quote:
Originally Posted by T. Drake
PUGs become even more stupid as the game gets older ...
Most people have been playing the game for quite a while now. They tend to get elitist because they've spent 500+ hours in PvE. Doesn't mean they understand the game, though, it is and always will be PvE, not much to learn/understand in there.

Shadow Spirit

Shadow Spirit

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Chicago

your cat eats dog food [pup]

N/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by T. Drake
omfg don't use Poison they will scatter noob!
Seriously I never saw mobs running away from conditions.
PUGs become even more stupid as the game gets older ...
QFT

Burning is a condition. Not an AoE...

Quaker

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebideedee
erm, whats a PUG?
Pick Up Group. Essentially, a group formed from random people who are looking to do the same quest/mission. My overall experience with PUGs has been positive - but, yes, I've been in some really bad ones. And they do seem to be worse now then they were.

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by T. Drake
PUGs become even more stupid as the game gets older ...
Logical process. Stupid players never catch on with the entire heroes thing because they keep failing with them, and try pugging because that would augment their chances of success. Good people tend to dissappear into Guild Pugs and Heroes/Henchies, leaving the bad muddafockazzz behind.

iridescentfyre

iridescentfyre

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Molock
Ok, so I decided I would join a PuG *gasp*
Here's your problem, imo.

Anyway, no, burning in of itself does not cause AoE scatter. Rodgort's Invocation shouldn't either, since its just one packet of damage + burning. Spells like Firestorm, Savannah Heat, Searing Heat, etc do, because they're AoE damage-over-time. However if your team wasn't built around a retarded archaic tank strategy, scatter wouldn't really have been a concern anyway. I still have faith that someday, people in Guild Wars are going to wake up and realize that these areas are not so hard with up-to-date builds and stop using OF tanks.

BFG

BFG

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Lost

DCSB

I did FoW recently where the party leader was a warrior that was determined to use the tanking method. I nearly chewed my hand off from the aggravation.

masteroflife

masteroflife

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by iridescentfyre
I still have faith that someday, people in Guild Wars are going to wake up and realize that these areas are not so hard with up-to-date builds and stop using OF tanks.

Thank you for saying that. Thank you very much.

I'd like to add: Tanks is ftl.

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

E/

I know what you guys mean about tanks being horrible.. sadly most pugs use one because its "simple". When I do FoW with guild group we carry a dps warrior (we cleared fow in 1h53 which isn't bad for 7 people). Anyway, thanks for confirming to me that I was correct