W/R PvP Build

GodsPatriarch

GodsPatriarch

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

USA

Reign of Judgement [RoJ]

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Looking for sum imput on my PvP proph/factions build.. I think its just me but i seem to get murdered in AB..lol
Str:11
Axe Mastery: 11
Tactics:9
[skill]Apply Poison[/skill][skill]Eviscerate[/skill][skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill][skill]Dismember[/skill][skill]Disrupting Chop[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill]

Squishy ftw

Squishy ftw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

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Needs more [skill]frenzy[/skill] and why a 3 sec poison that costs 15e ?

Chicken Ftw

Chicken Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Evisc AND Dismember? Also, why bother with Apply with 0 spec? Sure you can keep it up on one person, but still seems like a waste. I'd rather go /E for Shock, or use some other alternative.

If getting destroyed by sins, consider bringing Shield Bash and disabling their lead or Moebius. I wouldn't recommend this anywhere but AB, but they're so plentiful there, it's lulz.

You need an IAS. Frenzy's good if you know how to cancel, if not, look into other options.

Also, teamwork is key. If you're dying too often, you're likely straying too far from your team, or going up against impossible odds.

mystical nessAL

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

DDrk

W/Mo

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:W/A_Shadow_Axe
Simple as that.

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

-Needs frenzy
-Apply poison isn't very good
-Dismember and Eviscerate isn't useful. Toss dismember.
-Always max weapon mastery, always. 12 axe/8 str/10 tactics is the way to go.
-Shield bash is pretty handy in AB. It's also less painful since you've got a snazzy extra slot from dropping the rez.

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by GodsPatriarch
Looking for sum imput on my PvP proph/factions build.. I think its just me but i seem to get murdered in AB..lol
Str:11
Axe Mastery: 11
Tactics:9
[skill]Apply Poison[/skill][skill]Eviscerate[/skill][skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill][skill]Dismember[/skill][skill]Disrupting Chop[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill]
[skill]Melandru's Resilience[/skill]

/win

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by You can't see me
[skill]Melandru's Resilience[/skill]

/fail Fix'd.
Resilience is bad. Please don't recommend it.

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Fix'd.
Resilience is bad. Please don't recommend it.
Since a Warrior has no hex removal, and hardly any condition removal, MR comes in handy with energy + Health regen for an almost indefinete stance at maxed attribute. It's especially nice because it allows you to spam weakness causing attacks on yourself with a buff to make up for the penalty. I haven't been to an RA match yet where at least 1 hex and two conditions were thrown on my warrior. AB is just brutal on a warrior. MR is key if you're running W/R. My advice is to go 12 WS with either 10/10 Strength/Weapon attribute or 12 Weapon attribute.

This is a nice AB build.

[skill]melandru's resilience[/skill][skill]dismember[/skill][skill]agonizing chop[/skill][skill]axe rake[/skill][skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill][skill]apply poison[/skill][skill]antidote signet[/skill][skill]rush[/skill]

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

Resilience is bad because you cannot Frenzy.
srssly

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Resilience is bad because you cannot Frenzy.
srssly Yay. Let's all frenzy, and die with 4 hits the moment empathy hits us, or insidious parasite.

Credibility- Lost.


IAS, counter to popular belief, is not needed at all. Health + Energy > IAS.

Squishy ftw

Squishy ftw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Your backline

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Quote:
Originally Posted by You can't see me
Yay. Let's all frenzy, and die with 4 hits the moment empathy hits us, or insidious parasite.

Credibility- Lost.
cancel stance?


Quote:
Originally Posted by You can't see me
IAS, counter to popular belief, is not needed at all. Health + Energy > IAS. pwning face > Health + Energy

you have monks for a reason.

Chicken Ftw

Chicken Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Warriors without IAS suck. Warriors using a stance as their elite that gives regen for hexes/conditions really suck (you're still just as useless, wtb monk to clean that blind/cripple/blurred/snare/whatever). Warriors trying to deal with all the hexes/conditions put on them in AB by themselves really, really suck. Anyone see where I'm going with this? <_<

Your credibility is ruined by thinking a good warrior'd frenzy himself to death while hexed. Also, saying health and energy regen is better than IAS. Wtf? Go back to PvE.

Alex - Have my babies. <3

Can't see me - stop posting.

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Credibily lost. It is quite clear you know nothing about playing a warrior at all, and any further discussion is a waste of time.
Good day. Do you even have a warrior character?


For those of you who don't know how to work an MR build, fine. More deaths for the opposite side of the alliance battles if you come in.

Have fun w/ Frenzy. You do a lot of "pwning" when you're dead. I'm done. If you don't want to utilize something, it's not my problem. OP- you can either learn from the mistakes of alex, or not. your choice.

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicken Ftw
Alex - Have my babies. <3 And once again, Stormlord wins t3h internet
<3 you too, man

The Real Roy Keane

The Real Roy Keane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Dublin, Ireland

Quote:
Originally Posted by You can't see me
Yay. Let's all frenzy, and die with 4 hits the moment empathy hits us, or insidious parasite.

Credibility- Lost.


IAS, counter to popular belief, is not needed at all. Health + Energy > IAS. An IAS stance is essential because, contrary to your belief, a damage increase of 50% > health and energy regen. Empathy is junk, Frenzy doesn't even double the damage off Insidious (it's life stealing damage) and Apply Poison is absolutely pointless on a Warrior since degen is only effective when it's applied to multiple adversaries.

Ansgar Two Hand

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

FWE

W/R

I'm not one to flame, so I'll stay out of that.

However, I'm a W/R myself. I have to ask - why put ANY points into tactics when you're only using the healing signet? If you're working as part of a team, you'll have monks. If you really need healing - try Troll Unguent instead, and put those attribute points into strength or weapon mastery and the leftovers into wilderness survival.

Personally, I don't like Frenzy, but I bring along Tiger Stance, Beserker Stance, or both. IAS = more adrenaline and, if you're using a zealous weapon, more energy (regen be damned, that's why I carry more than one axe)

GodsPatriarch

GodsPatriarch

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

USA

Reign of Judgement [RoJ]

W/D

so exepct flaming... ne more opinons? I dont like Frenzy as well.. i feel it kills me alot quicker.. As far as energy goes, i do not have ne problems keeping that up..most skills are adrenline req..

iridescentfyre

iridescentfyre

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by You can't see me
Yay. Let's all frenzy, and die with 4 hits the moment empathy hits us, or insidious parasite.

Credibility- Lost. You're right.. the moment that you implied that you continue attacking with Empathy or Insidious Parasite on you (let alone with Frenzy up), any credibility you may have still had on this forum was gone.

RyXXed

RyXXed

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by GodsPatriarch
Looking for sum imput on my PvP proph/factions build.. I think its just me but i seem to get murdered in AB..lol
Str:11
Axe Mastery: 11
Tactics:9
[skill]Apply Poison[/skill][skill]Eviscerate[/skill][skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill][skill]Dismember[/skill][skill]Disrupting Chop[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill] 1. Apply Poison lasts very short and is very energy heavy
2. Has no IAS
3. Two Deep Wounds

You need some radical impromevents there. I don't think you can even justify of the build being W/R itself, because the only thing you're using the /R part there is poison, which can be removed easily and really doesn't last long.

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:W/A_Shadow_Axe is to get you started on how axe warriors work now a days.

bungusmaximus

bungusmaximus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]

W/Mo

<-uses frenzy on his AB warr for ages, never had a problem. Some people should stop being baed. The OP's build just screams for frenzy. It may take some time to get used to the skill and, as a warrior in AB, I would recommend bringing a healder of some kind along. You can't pressure much when you need to heal upp all the time.

LightningHell

LightningHell

(????????????)???

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hong Kong

Guildless

Mo/

Stop flaming or thread will be closed.

On topic, IASes are good.

karunpav

karunpav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

[skill]Dismember[/skill][skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill][skill]Disrupting Chop[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Word of Healing[/skill][skill]Mending Touch[/skill]

14 axe
10 heal
8 strength
x prot

paladin rawr.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by karunpav
[skill]Dismember[/skill][skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill][skill]Disrupting Chop[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Word of Healing[/skill][skill]Mending Touch[/skill]

14 axe
10 heal
8 strength
x prot

paladin rawr. Word of Healing ,Healing Hands would be better best to use a Warrior elite and keep mending touch.

The only real good W/R build is Iway and comes with and IAS.

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Age
The only real good W/R build is Iway and comes with and IAS. [skill]Tiger's Fury[/skill][skill]Eviscerate[/skill][skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill][skill]sprint[/skill][skill]"I Will Avenge You!"[/skill][skill]Predatory Season[/skill][skill]charm animal[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]
I heard this build rawks HA. It must be good in AB too, right? /end sarcasam

edit: IWAY can be OK in AB, or at least better than Melandru's Resilience. I don't think you need to be W/R to use IWAY in AB, but I question whether IWAY is worth the slot. And to the OP: replace Dismember and Apply Poison with 2 other skills. One of those should be an IAS skill. Reconsider other secondary professions.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterB
[skill]Tiger's Fury[/skill][skill]Eviscerate[/skill][skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill][skill]sprint[/skill][skill]"I Will Avenge You!"[/skill][skill]Predatory Season[/skill][skill]charm animal[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]
I heard this build rawks HA. It must be good in AB too, right? /end sarcasam

edit: IWAY can be OK in AB, or at least better than Melandru's Resilience. I don't think you need to be W/R to use IWAY in AB, but I question whether IWAY is worth the slot. And to the OP: replace Dismember and Apply Poison with 2 other skills. One of those should be an IAS skill. Reconsider other secondary professions. That is not the Iway build no predatory season it is axe rake.It isn't used much in HA but still viable.

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

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My mistake; I've never IWAY'ed. Skill #6 looks like an optional slot; you could probably throw other stuff there, too. Also, sarcasm.

ZenRgy

ZenRgy

Zookeeper

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader

҉ ̵̡̢̢̛̛̛̖̗̘̙̜̝̞̟&#

N/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by You can't see me
Yay. Let's all frenzy, and die with 4 hits the moment empathy hits us, or insidious parasite. Insidious Parasite is life steal, it won't matter if you Frenzy.

Selket

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Grand Court of Selket/Sebelkeh

What If You Had An Outpost Named After You [slkt]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by You can't see me
Do you even have a warrior character? Clearly you don't.

LightningHell

LightningHell

(????????????)???

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hong Kong

Guildless

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenRgy
Insidious Parasite is life steal, it won't matter if you Frenzy. It actually does because you do attack faster.

But anybody who doesn't know when to stop attacking is an idiot. Besides, who uses Empathy in organized PvP...

Deja vu...

ZenRgy

ZenRgy

Zookeeper

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader

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Quote:
Originally Posted by LightningHell
It actually does because you do attack faster.

But anybody who doesn't know when to stop attacking is an idiot. Besides, who uses Empathy in organized PvP...

Deja vu... True. But, I love you [skill]Holy Veil[/skill]

I'm confused at how extra health and energy regen really makes up for a lack of hex removal.

Akaraxle

Akaraxle

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Italy

E/

If you don't feel safe w/ [skill]Frenzy[/skill] just bring [skill]Tiger Stance[/skill] and don't be nub with it.

Also, [skill]Mending[/skill] rox.

RhanoctJocosa

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

W/

[skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Eviscerate[/skill][skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Shock[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill][skill]Enraging Charge[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill]

Sometimes I go [skill]Sprint[/skill][skill]Shield Bash[/skill][skill]"Shields Up!"[/skill], it just depends.

RyXXed

RyXXed

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa
[skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Eviscerate[/skill][skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Shock[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill][skill]Enraging Charge[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill]ends. Three stances ftl. Not enough damage for it to be successful at doing anything except killing a monk that's under 50% health.

Squishy ftw

Squishy ftw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Your backline

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Akaraxle

Also, [skill]Mending[/skill] rox. That stopped being funny a long time ago..

Akaraxle

Akaraxle

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Italy

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Squishy ftw
That stopped being funny a long time ago.. I wasn't joking.

A Leprechaun

A Leprechaun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

The only time I wouldn't run an IAS in AB is when I run this build, which is really fun and effective, even if it went out of fashion:

[skill]"You're all Alone!"[/skill]
[skill]Dismember[/skill] or [skill]Sever Artery[/skill]
[skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill] or [skill]Gash[/skill]
[skill]Swift Chop[/skill] or [skill]Final Thrust[/skill]
[skill]Signet of Malice[/skill]
[skill]Healing Signet[/skill]
[skill]Shadow Walk[/skill]
[skill]Dash[/skill]

And the only reason I don't bring an IAS is I cant, as it would cancel Shadow Walk.
MR is trash.

~A Leprechaun~

A Leprechaun

A Leprechaun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Akaraxle
I wasn't joking. Then you shall burn in Guild Wars hell!

~A Leprechaun~

P.S. I'm sorry for that, all I could see was a red mist.

RyXXed

RyXXed

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

W/

Kick the Shadow Walk and Dash thingy. You got YAA! and if the foe has condition removal you can just use Sprint. It lasts longer and you need strenght as an attribute anyways.

Xiaxhou of Trinity

Xiaxhou of Trinity

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

CA

Scythes of Chaos [SoC], [PNOY] alliance guild forums: http://socguild.cjb.net

E/

1) Eviscerate
2) Axe Rake
3) Enraging Charge
4) Bull's Strike
5) Distracting Blow
6) Poison Tip Signet/Antidote
7) Healing Signet
8) Rez Signet

gg Melandru's Resilience is only good for tanking for AB. In any other pvp (unless you're running some cut off monk build), MR really isn't useful. Healing signet should be enough for a warrior.

Chicken Ftw

Chicken Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiaxhou of Trinity
1) Eviscerate
2) Axe Rake
3) Enraging Charge
4) Bull's Strike
5) Distracting Blow
6) Poison Tip Signet/Antidote
7) Healing Signet
8) Rez Signet Why Dblow and not Dchop? No IAS? Also, why bother with poison tip sig at all on a warrior? Finally, if this is AB, no need for Res Sig.

Not trying to be an ass, just wondering if there's some reasoning behind gimping your build. ;x