I'm making a paragon finally (after neglecting to for soo long) And i've got a couple of elite Para tomes laying around. Was wondering what would be a good elite for a command paragon to use.
Greets
Ace/Vision
Making a Paragon.
AceX212
Racthoh
Defensive Anthem or Cruel Spear.
AceX212
Hmm, DA is nice yes, but the energy cost seems a bit high, for the low duration, and long recharge. :S
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by AceX212
Hmm, DA is nice yes, but the energy cost seems a bit high, for the low duration, and long recharge. :S
A 9 second duration is fine on such a powerful defensive buff.
And 15 energy is really not much of an issue for a Paragon. "GftE!" solves your problems.
And 15 energy is really not much of an issue for a Paragon. "GftE!" solves your problems.
blue.rellik
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Originally Posted by AceX212
Hmm, DA is nice yes, but the energy cost seems a bit high, for the low duration, and long recharge. :S
Paragons should very very rarely have energy problems
AceX212
9 Seconds @ 16 leadership? or 13?
Kale Ironfist
9 seconds is at 12-13 Leadership.
You can't see me
[skill]Cruel Spear[/skill]
[skill]Stunning Strike[/skill]
[skill]Focused Anger[/skill]
No Paragon should be without these.
Consider:
[skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Focused Anger[/skill]
[skill]Barbed Spear[/skill][skill]Stunning Strike[/skill]
12/12 Leadership Spear Mastery is FTW.
[skill]Stunning Strike[/skill]
[skill]Focused Anger[/skill]
No Paragon should be without these.
Consider:
[skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Focused Anger[/skill]
[skill]Barbed Spear[/skill][skill]Stunning Strike[/skill]
12/12 Leadership Spear Mastery is FTW.
Targuil
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Originally Posted by You can't see me
[skill]Cruel Spear[/skill]
[skill]Stunning Strike[/skill]
[skill]Focused Anger[/skill]
No Paragon should be without these.
Consider:
[skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Focused Anger[/skill]
[skill]Barbed Spear[/skill][skill]Stunning Strike[/skill]
12/12 Leadership Spear Mastery is FTW. Where's SoR? It's used quite much nowadays too.
[skill]Stunning Strike[/skill]
[skill]Focused Anger[/skill]
No Paragon should be without these.
Consider:
[skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Focused Anger[/skill]
[skill]Barbed Spear[/skill][skill]Stunning Strike[/skill]
12/12 Leadership Spear Mastery is FTW. Where's SoR? It's used quite much nowadays too.
The Real Roy Keane
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Originally Posted by You can't see me
12/12 Leadership Spear Mastery is FTW. No it isn't. You need 9 in Command or Motivation so you can use your shield.
Racthoh
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Originally Posted by The Real Roy Keane
No it isn't. You need 9 in Command or Motivation so you can use your shield.
The 8 armour isn't that necessary. If you can find a req 7 15 AL shield then you're in luck as you can have a 12/11/6 split. (13 leadership doesn't do anything)
AceX212
In terms of a Motivation Type Healing build. What's a viable elite skill option other than SoR?
xDusT II
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Originally Posted by AceX212
In terms of a Motivation Type Healing build. What's a viable elite skill option other than SoR?
Song of Purification is the only other Motivation Elite I would run, and not often at that.
AceX212
Not just sticking to Motivation. Could be a leadership one also. (already running Defensive anthem((at certain times)) )
xDusT II
I would still say Song of Purification, although Song of Restoration and Defensive Anthem are probably better for general PvE.
The other recommended option is take Focused Anger as an adrenaline engine and pump out "Save Yourself", throwing some "There's Nothing to Fear"'s into the mix aswell. Considering the large amounts of damage reduction you can create with just a single character, you could probably just leave healing to the monks.
The other recommended option is take Focused Anger as an adrenaline engine and pump out "Save Yourself", throwing some "There's Nothing to Fear"'s into the mix aswell. Considering the large amounts of damage reduction you can create with just a single character, you could probably just leave healing to the monks.
Racthoh
Defensive Anthem if you lack a source of weakness or expecting many physicals.
Song of Purification if you're lacking in party heals in a condition heavy area, or you're expecting enemies that have a means of applying dazed or blind repeatedly.
If you want to play with Song of Restoration, don't go overboard on the heals. It, and Ballad of Restoration is all the healing you should worry about doing. If you don't mind maintaining Mending Refrain, I would drop Ballad for it as it will restore a lot more health in comparison. 120 health at +3 regen it heals during the 20 seconds it takes for Ballad of Restoration to recharge.
Song of Purification if you're lacking in party heals in a condition heavy area, or you're expecting enemies that have a means of applying dazed or blind repeatedly.
If you want to play with Song of Restoration, don't go overboard on the heals. It, and Ballad of Restoration is all the healing you should worry about doing. If you don't mind maintaining Mending Refrain, I would drop Ballad for it as it will restore a lot more health in comparison. 120 health at +3 regen it heals during the 20 seconds it takes for Ballad of Restoration to recharge.
Kyp Jade
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Originally Posted by You can't see me
[skill]Cruel Spear[/skill]
[skill]Stunning Strike[/skill]
[skill]Focused Anger[/skill]
No Paragon should be without these.
Consider:
[skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Focused Anger[/skill]
[skill]Barbed Spear[/skill][skill]Stunning Strike[/skill]
12/12 Leadership Spear Mastery is FTW. fail one dimensional damage bar. Focused anger is the only useful elite of the lot (outside of stunning strike in gvg, cruel is bad because you dont often find a deep wound from CS).
FA however is a nice enabler for either save yourselves in pve, or decent pressure from spear of lightning / holy spear. In pve you can even put conjure on that for pretty #'s
[skill]Stunning Strike[/skill]
[skill]Focused Anger[/skill]
No Paragon should be without these.
Consider:
[skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Focused Anger[/skill]
[skill]Barbed Spear[/skill][skill]Stunning Strike[/skill]
12/12 Leadership Spear Mastery is FTW. fail one dimensional damage bar. Focused anger is the only useful elite of the lot (outside of stunning strike in gvg, cruel is bad because you dont often find a deep wound from CS).
FA however is a nice enabler for either save yourselves in pve, or decent pressure from spear of lightning / holy spear. In pve you can even put conjure on that for pretty #'s
upier
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Originally Posted by Kyp Jade
FA however is a nice enabler for either save yourselves in pve, or decent pressure from spear of lightning / holy spear. In pve you can even put conjure on that for pretty #'s
CS's DW pretty much always lands and it's extra sweet because of the way CS's DW works!
And Daze in PvE - always sweet!
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[skill]Barbed Spear[/skill][skill]Stunning Strike[/skill]
No need for Barbed imo.
Anthem Of Flame does the job very nicely + one can use it to keep up AR outside of fights.
Racthoh
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Originally Posted by upier
And Daze in PvE - always sweet!
The only times I really want daze is against bosses and waiting for 10 adrenaline takes way too long. I'd rather take a Broad Head Arrow to apply the daze before the party is one-shotted.
Turtle222
daze isnt sweet in pve - stunning strike fails at such an unworthy cost (by the time you amass 10adren - it won't be very useful
Abedeus
That's why you use For Great Justice! shout and/or Spear of Fury.
upier
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Originally Posted by Racthoh
The only times I really want daze is against bosses and waiting for 10 adrenaline takes way too long. I'd rather take a Broad Head Arrow to apply the daze before the party is one-shotted.
Is BHA better?
Yes, it is. You don't see me denying that. The difference is that one needs to take a ranger then (well, duh!). What Stunning Strike enables is to have a worse version of daze on a character that can do so much for the team - damage, massive protection and heal. It just adds an extra dimension to an already insane class. Is it needed? Not really. But let's face it - FA isn't needed. CS isn't needed. It's just really nice! The same with SStrike. It's a very viable option - and that is all one needs because of the way how PvE is designed. But for those 5 bosses that need to get hit right away - yeah, BHA always!
Turtle222
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Originally Posted by Abedeus
That's why you use For Great Justice! shout and/or Spear of Fury.
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MarxF
Srsly, in PvE why would anyone run anything but Focussed Anger? Keeping up the allegiance warrior skill = hacks.
John Panda
Cruel Spear.
Kthxbai xDusT II
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Originally Posted by John Panda
Cruel Spear.
Kthxbai I'd much rather stick Cruel Spear or any other useful Paragon elite for that matter on a hero. Let the human run what it exclusively runs best.
upier
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Originally Posted by MarxF
Srsly, in PvE why would anyone run anything but Focussed Anger? Keeping up the allegiance warrior skill = hacks.
Because PvE isn't DoA only?
Because one can run multiple Paragons? Because PvE is designed so that Assassins and Mesmers can also win?
Richardt
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Originally Posted by You can't see me
[skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Focused Anger[/skill] Wouldn't this combo be counterproductive as the adrenaline gain is capped at 100%? Or am I missing something? xDusT II
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Originally Posted by Richardt
Wouldn't this combo be counterproductive as the adrenaline gain is capped at 100%? Or am I missing something?
FGJ when Focused Anger is in downtime. FGJ is really optional.
Tyla
Cruel Spear.
Defensive Anthem. Focused Anger. all i like tbh |
