Heal as One is craaaazy

Lorde

Lorde

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

CCCP

R/E

After toying with some crazy sin builds (I enjoyed my Water Sin) I decided to play A/R.

I got a basic "Run as One" for a mandatory speed buff and, well, since I put 12 points in Beast Mastery, I decided to get a pet with Disrupting Lounge and... Heal as One.

I will not dabble if Heal as One is overpowered or not, but it surely make my old Sin heals look weak. I surely won't be using Shadow Refuge or Heart of Shadow anymore.

Fun Fact: With my crazy build I got my first glad points in TA. 25 consecutive wins!

Alexandra-Sweet

Alexandra-Sweet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

That one place with the trees, mountains and snow

Ember Power Mercenaries [EMP]

Me/

So.... your point?

Heal as One is the only proper heal for a Ranger and it's not overpowered.

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/

A beastmaster sin.

It's hard to get much worse.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

HaO is elite self heal. duh, ofc it will get you far in low end pvp.

Khasar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Crystal Desert

Guild of Dangerous Surprise[GODS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexandra-Sweet
Heal as One is the only proper heal for a Ranger
Please lower casting time for Troll Unguent, Anet. Two seconds is way to long for the only ranger self-heal outside of Beast Mastery.

Chicken Ftw

Chicken Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Khasar
Please lower casting time for Troll Unguent, Anet. Two seconds is way to long for the only ranger self-heal outside of Beast Mastery.
Not this shit again. QQ

Rangers don't need to be any harder to kill than they already are.

Alexandra-Sweet

Alexandra-Sweet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

That one place with the trees, mountains and snow

Ember Power Mercenaries [EMP]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Khasar
Please lower casting time for Troll Unguent, Anet. Two seconds is way to long for the only ranger self-heal outside of Beast Mastery.
Sorry to dissapoint you some more, but it's 3 seconds.

MirageMaster

MirageMaster

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2007

EU

whats adds with sell your GW account for cash on this forum? i thought Anet was against bots.

Rhedd

Rhedd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

You ever have to clean up after a Moa bird?

True Solunastra [SLA] Profession: Moa Wrangler

The skills in Beastmastery come with an extra helping of awesomesauce.

Please don't tell anyone. ^_^

Leslie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

England

Slash afk [afk]

A/

Heal as One is balanced by it's recharge time and pre-requisite of either yourself or your pet having <75% health, not to mention the fact that it's an Elite.

Lil Mystique

Lil Mystique

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

In England soon to be with Leslie ^.^

Slash Afk [afk]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MirageMaster
whats adds with sell your GW account for cash on this forum? i thought Anet was against bots.
What are you talking about?? o.0

Lorde

Lorde

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

CCCP

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
A beastmaster sin.

It's hard to get much worse.
It works, all I can say.

Flossie

Flossie

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorde
... a pet with Disrupting Lounge ...
Sorry to highlight it, but the image just made me lol

moko

moko

??uo??o??

Join Date: May 2006

i'm sorry, but what is coming out of these threads?

oh, yes, look, someone having fun experiences in RA with noob builds..go tell your guild. there's nothing to discuss on a fanboard.

Quote:
I will not dabble if Heal as One is overpowered or not
useless spam.

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorde
I will not dabble if Heal as One is overpowered or not, but it surely make my old Sin heals look weak.
Thats cus its elite :P.

And beast master sin is a bad idea yea ^^.

Shuuda

Shuuda

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guildless

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorde
It works, all I can say.
Mending wammos can work in RA, get the picture yet. OR, do you wish that I stamp on your forhead, the words "LOSER" or "REJECT" etc etc.

legacyofkain85

legacyofkain85

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Lady Ainowa

Quote:
Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
A beastmaster sin.

It's hard to get much worse.
i laughed so hard im still laughing while typeing this message

Dutch Masterr

Dutch Masterr

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Long Island, NY

Elite Knights [SWAT]

W/

Gimmicky builds always have a funny habbit of working....why not post the build so we can see if maybe it is THAT good?

Anduin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ice Dragon Berserker Lodge

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shuuda
Mending wammos can work in RA, get the picture yet. OR, do you wish that I stamp on your forhead, the words "LOSER" or "REJECT" etc etc.
Ok, wait... he's a loser for enjoying something, while you go about a forum bashing people for absolutely no reason?

Better go get your definitions straightened out, buddy.

Shuuda

Shuuda

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guildless

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anduin
Ok, wait... he's a loser for enjoying something, while you go about a forum bashing people for absolutely no reason?

Better go get your definitions straightened out, buddy.
No, he's a loser for thinking that build is good because it wins in RA, please read.

xReLx

xReLx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

Mo/

He never said it was good. He just said it got him glad points.

lrn2read

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

Well, as for Heal as one being over powered, I disagree. 25% health is a small window which to activate it in a lot of cases, especially when you're being knocked down or spiked. It's balenced.

But when it comes to an effective Assasin, I can see something like this in RA.

12 pts- BM
12 +1 pts- Dagger Mastery
3 +2 pts- Shadow Arts

[skill]heal as one[/skill][skill]charm animal[/skill] [skill]Otyugh's Cry[/skill] [skill]shroud of distress[/skill][skill]golden fox strike[/skill][skill]fox fangs[/skill][skill]nine tail strike[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

~Edit, Otyugh's Cry is innacurate. It prevents your pet from being blocked with a +24 Armor Bonus.

Lorde

Lorde

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

CCCP

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shuuda
No, he's a loser for thinking that build is good because it wins in RA, please read.
The build works... and if I got enough wins, it has it's merits.

But if I *really* wanted a perfect build to maximize my win ratio I won't be playing Sins to start.

Before the shitstorm starts I am not saying Sins are bad, or can't win a lot, I just saying I think there are better classes to farm glad points.

To whoever asked about the build...

I didn't post my build because people would jump and say "RA builds should be posted on the PvP forum" or something similar, but this just show you really can't win some battles.

The build, however, isn't my point... I am just saying Heal as One is a impressive heal (elite or not), and Beast Mastery has some interesting skills to boot.

It's important to note if a Sin try to make a different build, it is instantly labeled as a bad build, but if he goes with the classic "shadowstep + LOD" he is a 1234 noob wiki-sin.

Again, can't win.

Lorde

Lorde

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

CCCP

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by You can't see me
Well, as for Heal as one being over powered, I disagree. 25% health is a small window which to activate it in a lot of cases, especially when you're being knocked down or spiked. It's balenced.

But when it comes to an effective Assasin, I can see something like this in RA.

12 pts- BM
12 +1 pts- Dagger Mastery
3 +2 pts- Shadow Arts

[skill]heal as one[/skill][skill]charm animal[/skill] [skill]Otyugh's Cry[/skill] [skill]shroud of distress[/skill][skill]golden fox strike[/skill][skill]fox fangs[/skill][skill]nine tail strike[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

~Edit, Otyugh's Cry is innacurate. It prevents your pet from being blocked with a +24 Armor Bonus.
Mmm, I use [skill]Disrupting Lunge[/skill] [skill]Jagged Strike[/skill] [skill]Wild Strike[/skill] [skill]Run as One[/skill][skill]Heal as One[/skill][skill]Nine Tail Strike[/skill][skill]Charm Animal[/skill]

Striken7

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

The District Nudists

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorde
The build works... and if I got enough wins, it has it's merits.
I could enter RA with no skills on my bar and get wins, so now that has merit too?

Lorde

Lorde

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

CCCP

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Striken7
I could enter RA with no skills on my bar and get wins, so now that has merit too?
This build worked on TA too, just to clarify.

Moral55

Moral55

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

SNOW

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Striken7
I could enter RA with no skills on my bar and get wins, so now that has merit too?
A 25 win streak means 15 of those battles were fought in TA. But I guess TA is for noobs to and any build will work.

moko

moko

??uo??o??

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorde
This build worked on TA too, just to clarify.
i got 30~ wins with shock, aegis, convert hexes, purge, zb, gole, purge conditions and ps on my monk.

do i need to say more?

ps, that's a pretty terrible build. :/

Chicken Ftw

Chicken Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moral55
A 25 win streak means 15 of those battles were fought in TA. But I guess TA is for noobs to and any build will work.
A large number of teams in TA come from RA. RA is scrubville. See where I'm going with this?

Doesn't even factor in the number of bad teams that form in TA.

Lorde

Lorde

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

CCCP

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mokone
i got 30~ wins with shock, aegis, convert hexes, purge, zb, gole, purge conditions and ps on my monk.

do i need to say more?

ps, that's a pretty terrible build. :/
What makes a good build so? The build works, gave me consecutive wins and lots of funny (or irate) comment about the players I fought along and against.

Any build which make me win and have a fun time is good in my book.

[DE]

[DE]

Hugs and Kisses

Join Date: Oct 2005

Scars Meadows

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorde
What makes a good build so? The build works, gave me consecutive wins and lots of funny (or irate) comment about the players I fought along and against.

Any build which make me win and have a fun time is good in my book.
I think the point is that a good team of 3 can drag a bad player along for a few glad pts; and that RA/TA is full of horrible teams that have no idea how to play.

TheHaxor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

two

W/N

I've always felt that HaO is one of the most worthless elites in Guild Wars outside of Hero Battles.

After reading this thread I still feel the same way. However, I am glad to hear you are happy with your success. All I can say is don't change it if its working.

Lorde

Lorde

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

CCCP

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicken Ftw
A large number of teams in TA come from RA. RA is scrubville. See where I'm going with this?

Doesn't even factor in the number of bad teams that form in TA.
I see... elitism.

[DE]

[DE]

Hugs and Kisses

Join Date: Oct 2005

Scars Meadows

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorde
I see... elitism.
I see common sense.

Chicken Ftw

Chicken Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorde
I see... elitism.
Odd, I saw the truth. But hey, if you felt offended for some reason, feel free to use "elitism" to help you feel better. That's what all the cool PvE/RA/AB kids do these days, isn't it? "I was running X" "X is bad" "You elitist prick! QQ"

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

good old guru...cookie cutter only lol

Orange Milk

Orange Milk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Ganking, USA

Retired

R/

Shock on a Monk? Get serious, use Crip Shot like I do, the can't kill ya if they can't catch ya.

If you got 25 win with that build I'm going to guess you had team mates that were upset with having to drag you through them. Thre are a massive aray of better heals to go with a Sin than that.

I hope your 8th skill was a rez.

Yes your being flamed for being out of the norm, but come on. How many other win streaks did you/do you get with it? What were your team mates proffesions and builds on that run?

Lorde

Lorde

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

CCCP

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicken Ftw
Odd, I saw the truth. But hey, if you felt offended for some reason, feel free to use "elitism" to help you feel better. That's what all the cool PvE/RA/AB kids do these days, isn't it? "I was running X" "X is bad" "You elitist prick! QQ"
This is the true sign of elitism, you think your playstyle is "superior" and in a attempt to raise it's prestige, you devalue other people ones.

You even have a classical ad hominem, in which you value your maturity pointing the apparent infantility of other players. Kids play RA/AB, I am not a kid because I don't play it.

The irony of being "mature" by playing a game amaze me.

Darkobra

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

Best threads ever. PVP people crying about who has more skill in Guild Wars of all games. Love it.

Lorde

Lorde

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

CCCP

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Orange Milk
Shock on a Monk? Get serious, use Crip Shot like I do, the can't kill ya if they can't catch ya.

If you got 25 win with that build I'm going to guess you had team mates that were upset with having to drag you through them. Thre are a massive aray of better heals to go with a Sin than that.

I hope your 8th skill was a rez.

Yes your being flamed for being out of the norm, but come on. How many other win streaks did you/do you get with it? What were your team mates proffesions and builds on that run?
We had a Sin with Sight Beyond Sight and a Thumper with Death Charge. None of then never complained in any moment about skill or playstile, we just played the game.