Obsidian Tank w/out Prof.

Dark Predation

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Join Date: Dec 2007

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Hello.

I'm trying to run an obsidian flesh tank for EoN HM Dungeons(slavers exile mostly) and I dont have Profecies. I have NF, Factions, and North(all title tracks at least rank 4 for special skills).

For equipment I have a Caster Modded sword(+5 energy, +20% enchantments, zealous hilt)/Earth Focus( +health 45while enchanted and -2dmg while enchanted). I normally roll w/ zealous sword +30 health, +15dmg^50% and a Str shield +30hp, -5dmg(20%). So I can switch between during runs if need be.

Skills I've selected are StoneFlesh Aura, Obsidian flesh, Sliver armor, Stamina Sig, Endure Pain, Glyph of lesser energy, Ward against Foes, and frenzied Defense.

My armor is max w/ +1 +1 sword, +1 strength, Sup. Vigor, Sup. Absorbtion, and pretty much all survivor or Vitale runes to take up rest of spots. I figure to get an extra helm/gloves to switch +1 +1 to strength and maybe an Energy rune strictly for the Obs. build.

Havent tried it out...a little scared to group up and make myself look stupid. Not sure of hero combo to try it out with.

Any suggestions from the community would be appreciated.

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Drop Sliver Armor and Frenzied Defense.

Here's a nice OF tank build that will get you accepted into most PuGs.


[skill]obsidian flesh[/skill][skill]stoneflesh aura[/skill][skill]glyph of concentration[/skill][skill]ward against foes[/skill][skill]endure pain[/skill][skill]signet of stamina[/skill][skill]armor of earth[/skill][skill]dolyak signet[/skill]


PS, icon on armor of earth is wrong.

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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If you're going with Heroes, run Dragon Slash with "Save yourselves!"
much stronger build, makes the party invincible and you still kill things.

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You can't see me

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
If you're going with Heroes, run Dragon Slash with "Save yourselves!"
much stronger build, makes the party invincible and you still kill things.
Just make sure there aren't any casters around that will own you with no Obsidian Flesh and you'll be fine.

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

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Quote:
Originally Posted by You can't see me
Just make sure there aren't any casters around that will own you with no Obsidian Flesh and you'll be fine. Most of us don't suck enough to need Ob Flesh and not die.

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You can't see me

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Most of us don't suck enough to need Ob Flesh and not die. I'll keep the extra 260 health, and spell immunity versus getting keeled over by armor ignoring spells you'll find in many EoTN dungons. Thanks.

Chicken Ftw

Chicken Ftw

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Join Date: May 2006

There's something called monks. Thanks.

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There's something called monks. Thanks. /agreed.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicken Ftw
There's something called monks. Thanks. Because all monks are actually skilled enough to heal you and not break your agro, or heal you period. Many PuG monks will just stand around and let you die, or run way too close, and break the agro you have.

Don't take risks. Run OF unless you're running with trusted guildies.

Abedeus

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Quote:
Originally Posted by You can't see me
Because all monks are actually skilled enough to heal you and not break your agro, or heal you period. Many PuG monks will just stand around and let you die, or run way too close, and break the agro you have.

Don't take risks. Run OF unless you're running with trusted guildies. Or go H/H and dont fail. LoD is uber, WoH too. Funny thing, I NEVER used tank in PuG. I tried to in Tombs, but it was worse (of course H/H, I was tanking) than B/P.

iridescentfyre

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Join Date: Mar 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by You can't see me
I'll keep the extra 260 health, and spell immunity versus getting keeled over by armor ignoring spells you'll find in many EoTN dungons. Thanks.
Is anyone else noticing that there's an abnormal amount of fail being posted lately? Seems like there's a "yeah whatever, tanks are awesome, noob" post in every thread.

Quote: Yes they are.

Quote:
Originally Posted by You can't see me
[skill]obsidian flesh[/skill][skill]stoneflesh aura[/skill][skill]glyph of concentration[/skill][skill]ward against foes[/skill][skill]endure pain[/skill][skill]signet of stamina[/skill][skill]armor of earth[/skill][skill]dolyak signet[/skill] Anyway, more on topic... this is probably the build you're looking for, OP. But as Alex said, run a good build if your teammates will let you. Heroes are better.

Stormlord Alex

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Quote:
Originally Posted by iridescentfyre
Is anyone else noticing that there's an abnormal amount of fail being posted lately? Seems like there's a "yeah whatever, tanks are awesome, noob" post in every thread. /agreed.
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iridescentfyre

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At least I'm picking up lots of awesome kitten and Skeletor jpegs out of it.

Stormlord Alex

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At least I'm picking up lots of awesome kitten and Skeletor jpegs out of it. Of course I claim this forum!
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Pyro maniac

Pyro maniac

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Join Date: Apr 2006

alex is just right

tank = draw all attacks on a heavily armored person, to prevent the casters from being pound to death in 2 hits

save yourselves = +100 armor on all other party members. this will result in ~85% damage reduction. Actually making the warrior the one with the worst defense ..

No need for holding aggro, thus making the run safer (and faster)

Dark Predation

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Arent G. of Concentration and Dolyak Sig Prof. Skills?

dont have profecies...looking for build that doesnt use prof. skills.

Thank you.

Racthoh

Racthoh

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Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nosferatu Dark Knight
Arent G. of Concentration and Dolyak Sig Prof. Skills?
Because all monks are actually skilled enough to heal you and not break your agro, or heal you period. Many PuG monks will just stand around and let you die, or run way too close, and break the agro you have. Then use heroes, or henchmen monks. Mhenlo and Lina are good enough, Dunkoro and Tahlkora are better than most humans.

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I'm still unsure how putting armor on everyone who isn't even supposed to be taking damage anyway beats spell immunity + health?

Racthoh

Racthoh

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Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

You have to tank-n-spank perfectly every group or you wipe everytime, and it's slow. Also, using warriors to not deal damage when they dealing the highest damage in the game sounds like a bad idea.

karunpav

karunpav

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That, and when everyone else suddenly has godly AL, all the baddies will come after you. You're a tank again, but a useful one.

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

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Join Date: Feb 2007

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Why is everyone putting Ob flesh = warrior? Aside from the fact that a tank is fail, if you're going to use it then use it on a ele who can maintain it

Seriously

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

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Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

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Why not build a high damage war and have a monk bring [skill]Spell Breaker[/skill] if your afraid of taking spell damage?

iridescentfyre

iridescentfyre

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Join Date: Mar 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by You can't see me
I'm still unsure how putting armor on everyone who isn't even supposed to be taking damage anyway beats spell immunity + health? Because nothing except the outdated Guild Wars manual recommends that only the warrior can take damage. When you relax the tired dogma of "warrior = tank," you suddenly realize that its okay if others take some damage, and that this can be a very fast-paced game that is a lot more fun than that.

Besides, you could run almost the same OF tank build on an Ele, and perhaps get better results anyway... the skills you bring are what make you a tank, not the warrior's armor, and you don't need Strength because you can hit the armor stacking cap with only Earth Magic. Plus the Ele has more energy and can hit >12 Earth. That's proof enough that most people who want a warrior to take it are retards who aren't thinking in terms of what's truly effective.

Peter Panic

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if u have ur mind set on using the tank build, signet of stamina and a zealous hilt is a bad idea. drop the zealous and take sig. other than that, looks like a decent tanking build.
agreed with rac+others, warriors should deal dmg, not tank.