What character can achieve the highest DPS?
MisterMax
Just like the topic asks; which character can achieve the highest dps? This post is not to be taken as "what is the best character damage wise" or whatever, I just want to know what the highest dps in a short amount of time is (15 seconds or less) via Master of Damage. Pics would help, thanks.
RotteN
warrior is hands down the best DPS :
http://users.pandora.be/rotten/ss/damage.jpg
roughly 90 DPS with a minor weapon mastery rune.
would be even higher with a superior rune...
the peak of 210 is impressive to say the least
http://users.pandora.be/rotten/ss/damage.jpg
roughly 90 DPS with a minor weapon mastery rune.
would be even higher with a superior rune...
the peak of 210 is impressive to say the least
Neo Nugget
Age
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Originally Posted by RotteN
warrior is hands down the best DPS :
http://users.pandora.be/rotten/ss/damage.jpg roughly 90 DPS with a minor weapon mastery rune. would be even higher with a superior rune... the peak of 210 is impressive to say the least |
Coloneh
the mast of damage calculates single target or 3 target damage though, where real DPS shines is something like an ele spamming 4 heats on a mob of 15 creatures, thats at least 1000 dps.
Wirt
I did a 256 damage in 1/2 second with my mesmer. (On a Charr Firestarter? Power leak meteor storm + interrupt fire storm, echoed surge, and another E drain forgot the name) then Aneurysm = BOOM 256 damage in my fast cast time of 1/2 sec abouts. Goes without saying he died.
By the way, aneurysm doesnt alwasy work out that smoothly. Hmm and I guess to stay on topic I should have added up the time it took to do the E drain skills.
By the way, aneurysm doesnt alwasy work out that smoothly. Hmm and I guess to stay on topic I should have added up the time it took to do the E drain skills.
legacyofkain85
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Originally Posted by RotteN
warrior is hands down the best DPS :
http://users.pandora.be/rotten/ss/damage.jpg roughly 90 DPS with a minor weapon mastery rune. would be even higher with a superior rune... the peak of 210 is impressive to say the least |
lennymon
perhaps it's counting deep wound as damage?
Sharkman
Try this 
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[skill]dragon slash[/skill]
:[skill]dragon slash[/skill]
Wirt
In terms of Damage per Second, each sword swing takes, what 1.33 seconds to hit. With Frenzy it brings the swings to a little under one hit per second. Or are my times incorrect? Even with a Dragon Slash critical hit, that would be about 90 dps in that one instant to a single enemy, but probably not maintainable. I gotta go check wiki to see attack speeds again. I also dont know how you can reach averaging 210 per second.
Sharkman
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Originally Posted by Wirt
Even with a Dragon Slash critical hit, that would be about 90 dps in that one instant to a single enemy, but probably not maintainable.
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And if deep wound is calculated in I guess that could account for the 210 in one second?
I Phoenix I
[skill]Dragon Slash[/skill][skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Enduring Harmony[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill]
Something like that I presume. Perhaps a [skill]Strength of Honor[/skill], [skill]Brutal Weapon[/skill], or other skills on an off-character?
Something like that I presume. Perhaps a [skill]Strength of Honor[/skill], [skill]Brutal Weapon[/skill], or other skills on an off-character?
Buzzer
Yeah Dragon Slash would have the best single target DPS. Assassin should be decent too.
I Phoenix I
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Originally Posted by Buzzer
Yeah Dragon Slash would have the best single target DPS. Assassin should be decent too.
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Njaiguni Blaze
DPS doesn't matter in a game which makes you win through one or more of this:
coordinated spikes
hex-pressure
condition-pressure
shutdown
passive offense
over defense
ganking
bodyblocks
positioning
use of NPC's
and last but certainly not least: TEAMPLAY (so DPS on a single character doesn't mean scrap)
You can't win with DPS, it's not like your target is going to be like a Suit of 80 Armor standing there, doing nothing.
coordinated spikes
hex-pressure
condition-pressure
shutdown
passive offense
over defense
ganking
bodyblocks
positioning
use of NPC's
and last but certainly not least: TEAMPLAY (so DPS on a single character doesn't mean scrap)
You can't win with DPS, it's not like your target is going to be like a Suit of 80 Armor standing there, doing nothing.
Darren Blacktail
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Originally Posted by Njaiguni Blaze
DPS doesn't matter in a game which makes you win through one or more of this:
coordinated spikes hex-pressure condition-pressure shutdown passive offense over defense ganking bodyblocks positioning use of NPC's and last but certainly not least: TEAMPLAY (so DPS on a single character doesn't mean scrap) You can't win with DPS, it's not like your target is going to be like a Suit of 80 Armor standing there, doing nothing. |
It comes down to the skill of the player and the build they use to determine the best DPS of a single class.
My 2 cents
arsie
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Originally Posted by Darren Blacktail
Yes that would be true in PvP, but for someone such as myself who plays PvE mostly, DPS can be very valueable, warriors and assassins have the best DPS for a single target, on the other hand, over multiple targets, the Dervish is clear winner in PvE where mobs seem to clump together.
It comes down to the skill of the player and the build they use to determine the best DPS of a single class. My 2 cents |
If you want to kill a priority target ASAP, you would be looking at Spike damage, which is not the same as DPS.
If you want to pressure a mob, DPS is just one of several ways to keep up the pressure. May not even be the most efficient (time) way.
Also, DPS gets completely situational when it comes to multiple targets. Savannah Heat, Spiteful Spirit, Splinter+Barrage, etc. would do stratospheric DPS under perfect conditions (however, perfect conditions aren't very common.)
MisterMax
I thank several of you for your posts. I clearly stated this is not to be used for tactics/opinions, I just want to know what can hit the highest dps in the lowest amount of time.
RotteN
i used 6 skills for that result actually, no deep wound
smiting : 12
sword mastery : 12+1+1
[skill]Dragon Slash[/skill][skill]"For Great justice!"[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]strength of honor[/skill][skill]judge's insight[/skill][skill]"i am the strongest!"[/skill]
basically 20% AP, 2 damage buffs, and then plain DS spamming
smiting : 12
sword mastery : 12+1+1
[skill]Dragon Slash[/skill][skill]"For Great justice!"[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]strength of honor[/skill][skill]judge's insight[/skill][skill]"i am the strongest!"[/skill]
basically 20% AP, 2 damage buffs, and then plain DS spamming
Njaiguni Blaze
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Originally Posted by RotteN
i used 6 skills for that result actually, no deep wound
smiting : 12 sword mastery : 12+1+1 [skill]Dragon Slash[/skill][skill]"For Great justice!"[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]strength of honor[/skill][skill]judge's insight[/skill][skill]"i am the strongest!"[/skill] basically 20% AP, 2 damage buffs, and then plain DS spamming |
Coloneh
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Originally Posted by MisterMax
I just want to know what can hit the highest dps in the lowest amount of time.
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Njaiguni Blaze
Highest spike possible is someone using Grenth's Balance on you while he/she has 1 HP.
Tyla
'Sin
downfalls on survivability though
downfalls on survivability though
martialis
[skill]Famine[/skill][skill]Sympathetic Visage[/skill]
R/Me
As always, you have to specify whether you mean real damage or dragon slash.
R/Me
As always, you have to specify whether you mean real damage or dragon slash.
Age
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Originally Posted by Darren Blacktail
Yes that would be true in PvP, but for someone such as myself who plays PvE mostly, DPS can be very valueable, warriors and assassins have the best DPS for a single target, on the other hand, over multiple targets, the Dervish is clear winner in PvE where mobs seem to clump together.
It comes down to the skill of the player and the build they use to determine the best DPS of a single class. My 2 cents |
Thanks Rotten for posting that I have it all except that last skill.
Zamochit
I believe the highest possible spike from one character is an MM with 10 minions all enchanted with Death nova using signet of creation and waiting for 30 seconds....BOOM (at 16 death magic it should be 1050 damage all at once.)
Master Knightfall
Touch Rangers have the highest dps can kill both warrior and sin at same time attacking me. Therefore touch ranger best dpser of all.
Mortal Amongst Mere Gods
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Touch Rangers have the highest dps can kill both warrior and sin at same time attacking me. Therefore touch ranger best dpser of all.
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Anyways, I think that Famine with Ancestor's Visage and Sympathetic Visage used against a mob of raptors would result in fairly high dps. That or your typical DSlash spam.
I also think that using the Strength of Honor+Judge's Insight could work as well with DB-MS spam sin.
Kale Ironfist
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arcanemacabre
Single-target, sustainable DPS is definitely the Warrior, hands down. Probably sword (DS, as already mentioned). However, depending on the size and grouping of mobs, the Ele may win out as highest sustainable DPS overall. That's kinda hard to test, though. Of course, it also depends on the mob type and their armor/protection setup. Some types of damage may be great on one type, and horrid on another. Physicals generally win on that front because other than other warrior mobs (which only have an additional 20 armor vs. physical), it works on just about everything evenly.
Some awesome DPS, and it may be near the top if not at the top, is good old Order of Undeath MM'ing. Like all MMs, it takes a bit to get rolling, but then you are left with a virtually unstoppable killing machine.
Some awesome DPS, and it may be near the top if not at the top, is good old Order of Undeath MM'ing. Like all MMs, it takes a bit to get rolling, but then you are left with a virtually unstoppable killing machine.
BigDave
DPS over a length of time isn't really a good measure of how good a character is at killing things, unless whatever you're fighting has no form of healing.
I'd agree that in general the Warrior has the highest sustainable DPS over a longer period of time. However other classes/builds can do far more damage to far more targets but that damage tends to come in "waves" with a cooldown period between. Like an Assassin for instance. A good sin can do a massive amount of damage to a single target in just a few seconds but usually has to wait before they can repeat the attack chain. A nuker Elementalist can pump out some insane damage over a short period to multiple targets but again has a large cooldown period before they can do it again and has the added trouble of keeping the foes in the AoE.
One combo i use a lot in PvE as an ele is dropping MS, echoed MS, SH, Teinei's Heat and Searing Heat all while under Mindbender. The whole combo takes 9 seconds to pull off (once Mindbender is up) and the damage lasts for around 10 seconds. If you can keep the targets in the AoE you'll be doing 1449 fire damage muliplied by the number of targets. That's a helluva lot of damage but for the time it takes to recharge you'll be doing very little. The DPS over those 10 secs could potentially be massive. The DPS over the course of say 1 minute is pretty low.
I wouldn't pay too much attention to DPS personally. More important is if you can kill your target or not.
I'd agree that in general the Warrior has the highest sustainable DPS over a longer period of time. However other classes/builds can do far more damage to far more targets but that damage tends to come in "waves" with a cooldown period between. Like an Assassin for instance. A good sin can do a massive amount of damage to a single target in just a few seconds but usually has to wait before they can repeat the attack chain. A nuker Elementalist can pump out some insane damage over a short period to multiple targets but again has a large cooldown period before they can do it again and has the added trouble of keeping the foes in the AoE.
One combo i use a lot in PvE as an ele is dropping MS, echoed MS, SH, Teinei's Heat and Searing Heat all while under Mindbender. The whole combo takes 9 seconds to pull off (once Mindbender is up) and the damage lasts for around 10 seconds. If you can keep the targets in the AoE you'll be doing 1449 fire damage muliplied by the number of targets. That's a helluva lot of damage but for the time it takes to recharge you'll be doing very little. The DPS over those 10 secs could potentially be massive. The DPS over the course of say 1 minute is pretty low.
I wouldn't pay too much attention to DPS personally. More important is if you can kill your target or not.
byteme!
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Originally Posted by BigDave
If you can keep the targets in the AoE you'll be doing 1449 fire damage muliplied by the number of targets. That's a helluva lot of damage but for the time it takes to recharge you'll be doing very little. The DPS over those 10 secs could potentially be massive. The DPS over the course of say 1 minute is pretty low.
I wouldn't pay too much attention to DPS personally. More important is if you can kill your target or not. |
Mortal Amongst Mere Gods
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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
Some awesome DPS, and it may be near the top if not at the top, is good old Order of Undeath MM'ing. Like all MMs, it takes a bit to get rolling, but then you are left with a virtually unstoppable killing machine.
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Vamp Horrors+more damage=more healing to cover extra sac and enough to sac for your minions. It does take time to build it up, but once you've got it, it'll steam roll the dummies.
Nevertheless, a warrior with EH+FGJ!+DS will probably keep ridiculously high dps going.
Spike
If we are talking multi target spike damage beat this
done by my ele today
done by my ele today
I Phoenix I
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If we are talking multi target spike damage beat this
done by my ele today |
I could probably achieve that if I fought a level 0 -.-
Njaiguni Blaze
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You're casting against a level 14 or lower monster right there...
I could probably achieve that if I fought a level 0 -.- |
steelblades
Nah , an assassin spamming moeb strike with deathblossom + crit eye (chance of more energy) + critical agility (attacks very fast then )
Spike
Where in the OP did it says i have to attack lvl 20's or they can't be less resistant to fire than normal. Even then in 15 seconds or less as stated in the OP an Ele WILL out DPS ANYTHING.
Earth
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Originally Posted by Spike
Where in the OP did it says i have to attack lvl 20's or they can't be less resistant to fire than normal. Even then in 15 seconds or less as stated in the OP an Ele WILL out DPS ANYTHING.
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Where's Ensign when you need him?
Bowstring Badass
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