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I Phoenix I

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31 Dec 2007 at 01:01 - 41

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Originally Posted by Spike

Where in the OP did it says i have to attack lvl 20's or they can't be less resistant to fire than normal. Even then in 15 seconds or less as stated in the OP an Ele WILL out DPS ANYTHING.

In that case, Base Defender in optimal conditions with achieve the highest DPS >.>

We're talking about realistic situations here, not ideal situations.

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Randvek

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31 Dec 2007 at 01:50 - 42

An Ele definite has the best DPS, but that's only in short situations. Once that energy gets low you're useless. OP asked about 15 seconds, and I gotta go with the Ele on it. If you're beating something down in 15 seconds, though, odds are you could have whooped it with anything in the game. If you want any kind of sustained DPS that is, you know, actually useful, gotta go with Warrior or Assassin. Assassin will win in DPS, but the Warrior will spend far fewer skill slots to pump out the impressive numbers.

That's all generic, though. I can think of dozens of builds that outdo a War or Sin, but only in certain situations.

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31 Dec 2007 at 02:12 - 43

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Originally Posted by I Phoenix I

In that case, Base Defender in optimal conditions with achieve the highest DPS >.>

We're talking about realistic situations here, not ideal situations.

Leard to read and then comment. The OP did'nt say anything about realistic sitations. He asked "What character can achieve the highest DPS" if you can read the topic, and then said in his post that this was in 15 or less seconds. IF he had said sustained DPS over 60 seconds or longer then yes a warrior is better BUT he DID NOT. So Ele > ALL. In this case.

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31 Dec 2007 at 02:48 - 44

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Originally Posted by Spike

If we are talking multi target spike damage beat this

done by my ele today

Holy Crap, thats very high dmg! I get around 150-160 with my axe warrior on charr in pikens, I didnt know it was possible to get that high of damage!

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31 Dec 2007 at 03:10 - 45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike

Leard to read and then comment. The OP did'nt say anything about realistic sitations. He asked "What character can achieve the highest DPS" if you can read the topic, and then said in his post that this was in 15 or less seconds. IF he had said sustained DPS over 60 seconds or longer then yes a warrior is better BUT he DID NOT. So Ele > ALL. In this case.

Base Defender kthnxbai.

Earth

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31 Dec 2007 at 11:11 - 46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike

Leard to read and then comment. The OP did'nt say anything about realistic sitations. He asked "What character can achieve the highest DPS" if you can read the topic, and then said in his post that this was in 15 or less seconds. IF he had said sustained DPS over 60 seconds or longer then yes a warrior is better BUT he DID NOT. So Ele > ALL. In this case.

I do think you're mistaken and an assassin has the highest DPS in 15 seconds or less. Nothing can kill as fast as an assassin with a good build, not even an ele. So in that, an assassin is clearly better.

batno_mercy

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31 Dec 2007 at 12:42 - 47

I have no GW atm, on holiday, but an assassin can do this.

With the skills:
[skill]Unsuspecting Strike[/skill][skill]Golden Fang Strike[/skill][skill]Death Blossom[/skill][skill]Moebius Strike[/skill][skill]Critical Eye[/skill][skill]Critical Agility[/skill][skill]Judge's Insight[/skill][skill]"I Am The Strongest!"[/skill]

Critical Strikes : 16
Dagger Mastery : 12
Smiting Prayers : 3
Norn rank : 10

Customised Daggers 7-17 15^50 20/20: with all the skills and chances included = 33-62 damage on each attack

Unsuspecting Strike: 111 damage + 33-62
Golden Fang Strike: DW for 15 seconds, 120 health lost from 600hp master of damage 120 + 33-62
Death Blossom: 80 damage + 2(33-62)
Moebius Strike: 60 damage + 2(33-62)

Making a total 198-372 + 371 damage, meaning 569-743 damage for the time of 4 attacks, which were speeded up 33%.

Finally, this attack chain with these buffs makes 569-743 damage over an approximate 3 seconds. Correct me if I went into a delirium. If anyone can try to do this on his/her assassin with these stats, will be obvious who is the best DPS dealer.

Crom The Pale

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31 Dec 2007 at 13:58 - 48

If your talking under 10 seconds then yes the sin is the king of DPS, however if your talking over 180 seconds then the warrior is the absolute KING of DPS.

Yes, an elementalist can achieve an extremely high amount of DPS, but that is using skills that the AI is programed to walk out of. Sure if the AI was willing to stand in FireStorm and Lava Font then the Ele would be king, but they dont so its not.

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31 Dec 2007 at 14:50 - 49

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Originally Posted by HuntMaster Avatar

Holy Crap, thats very high dmg! I get around 150-160 with my axe warrior on charr in pikens, I didnt know it was possible to get that high of damage!

*sigh*

He is using a fire spell on a low level mob that is vulnerable to fire. try using your axe warrior against undead whilst dealing holy damage. Sainsbury's taste the difference

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31 Dec 2007 at 14:56 - 50

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Originally Posted by Turtle222

*sigh*

He is using a fire spell on a low level mob that is vulnerable to fire. try using your axe warrior against undead whilst dealing holy damage. Sainsbury's taste the difference

I think(/hope) the person you quoted was being sarcastic.

Yarly

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31 Dec 2007 at 15:05 - 51

This is a pretty pointless thread, its well known that warriors have the highest dps. End of discussion.

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31 Dec 2007 at 18:07 - 52

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Originally Posted by Yarly

This is a pretty pointless thread, its well known that warriors have the highest dps. End of discussion.

Your post will get deleted, as did mine which had about the same content. Idk why tho.

Musei Karasu

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31 Dec 2007 at 22:25 - 53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

If your talking under 10 seconds then yes the sin is the king of DPS, however if your talking over 180 seconds then the warrior is the absolute KING of DPS.

MS+DB rotation. If you've got the energy, that's very much so constant damage.

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01 Jan 2008 at 02:27 - 54

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Originally Posted by Musei Karasu

MS+DB rotation. If you've got the energy, that's very much so constant damage.

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Incandecree

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01 Jan 2008 at 02:36 - 55

I know this is off-topic slightly but in a PVE setting Pain Inverter can push out a high amount of damage in one second. 10 minions + shockwave boss (casting shockwave) + Pain Inverter == dead shockwave boss. 80 damage * 3 (all minions against the boss) * 10 == 2400 damage.

Saw it happen.

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01 Jan 2008 at 03:08 - 56

With the right conditions i dont think anythign beats sliver armor

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01 Jan 2008 at 03:42 - 57

average highest dps = paragon

I Phoenix I

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01 Jan 2008 at 03:45 - 58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turtle222

average highest dps = paragon

...I'm pretty sure Warrior still wins.

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01 Jan 2008 at 09:14 - 59

Damage Per Sec?

In that case, NOT including spiking.
My sin can pull off 50-70 dmg a sec.

To be honest idk for sure.
Id say para.

Master Knightfall

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06 Jan 2008 at 00:02 - 60

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Originally Posted by Mortal Amongst Mere Gods

I feel like being spiteful now cause war and sin are my fav professions. No, touchers don't achieve highest dps. Dps is damage per second. Touchers use health-stealing, a variant of health-loss. Health-loss is, by in game mechanics, different than damage.

Anyways, I think that Famine with Ancestor's Visage and Sympathetic Visage used against a mob of raptors would result in fairly high dps. That or your typical DSlash spam.

I also think that using the Strength of Honor+Judge's Insight could work as well with DB-MS spam sin.

What a rediculous statement IGMO. Health loss is health loss I don't care how it's worded in the game. The DPS of TOUCH SKILLS is far higher and better than any Warrior or SIN can muster out vs the toucher. A toucher can kill BOTH at the same time, so toucher DPS damage far outweighs anything the warrior or sin can dish out even against others a toucher will take them out 1 v 1 faster than a warrior or sin. But, you being an IGMO you wouldn't know that.

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06 Jan 2008 at 00:13 - 61

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Knightfall

The DPS of TOUCH SKILLS is far higher and better than any Warrior or SIN can muster out vs the toucher.

This thread isn't about which class can kill another class, and the dps of touch skills is fairly low.

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Originally Posted by Master Knightfall

A toucher can kill BOTH at the same time,

I've killed two touchers at once with a cripshot, does that make his DPS better?

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Originally Posted by Master Knightfall

so toucher DPS damage far outweighs anything the warrior or sin can dish out

Take your toucher to the master of damage...see what you get over 20seconds...

Antheus

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06 Jan 2008 at 01:09 - 62

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Knightfall

What a rediculous statement IGMO. Health loss is health loss I don't care how it's worded in the game. The DPS of TOUCH SKILLS is far higher and better than any Warrior or SIN can muster out vs the toucher. A toucher can kill BOTH at the same time, so toucher DPS damage far outweighs anything the warrior or sin can dish out even against others a toucher will take them out 1 v 1 faster than a warrior or sin. But, you being an IGMO you wouldn't know that.

Why are touchers never in observer mode then? They would be perfect for GvG.

Better yet, why are touchers so rare if they're so good?

The only reason touchers are so good in AB is due to life stealing = self heal, and nothing else. So even though they do half the dps a warrior does, they also get that much healing, while other gets no healing.

We are talking AB here, right? That's where all the "I win one on one" pvp happens.

Master Knightfall

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06 Jan 2008 at 05:07 - 63

Yeah AB where touchers DPS rules.

FA and RA as well, even TA with a monk backup. Been on enough teams with my touch ranger and we rule. Won 80 in a row before. So toucher DPS is king of all DPS in 1 vs 1 since that is the only place where DPS really counts.

Earth

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06 Jan 2008 at 11:48 - 64

Touchers suck at DPS. If you think they're the best, you fail.

Also closing this thread as this has been going on long enough and the answer is simple - warriors.