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Firzin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

I just started Guild wars today and made a Dervish. So right now after reading the guide above, I came up with this build. But before I put it up, I need to know if it's possible for me to become an assassin as my second profession even though I don't have factions.

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Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

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No, sorry it's not.

Firzin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

Ok heres a rough idea of my build.
Scythe Mastery 12+4
Mysticism 12
Earth Prayers 12+3
Earth Magic Whatever is left
[skill]Avatar of Grenth[/skill] [skill]Reaper's Sweep[/skill] or [skill]Wounding Strike[/skill] [skill]Heart of Fury[/skill] [skill]Aura of Thorns[/skill] [skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill] [skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill] [skill]Chilling Victory[/skill] [skill]Stone Striker[/skill]

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Originally Posted by Firzin
Ok heres a rough idea of my build.
Scythe Mastery 12+4
Mysticism 12
Earth Prayers 12+3
Earth Magic Whatever is left
[skill]Avatar of Grenth[/skill] [skill]Reaper's Sweep[/skill] or [skill]Wounding Strike[/skill] [skill]Heart of Fury[/skill] [skill]Aura of Thorns[/skill] [skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill] [skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill] [skill]Chilling Victory[/skill] [skill]Stone Striker[/skill]

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I don't see the benefit of stone striker unless you're playing [skill]ebon dust aura[/skill]

Heck I'm not even sure if those two synergize. Your attributes are fine, just ditch Stone Striker and add something more useful. Also, I'd use [skill]avatar of lyssa[/skill] instead of grenth, unless you're running [skill]eternal aura[/skill] in which case, you're fine.

Firzin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

Crap forgot to add Ebon >_> and take out another skill.

[skill]Avatar of Grenth[/skill] [skill]ebon dust aura[/skill] [skill]Heart of Fury[/skill] [skill]Aura of Thorns[/skill] [skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill] [skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill] [skill]Chilling Victory[/skill] [skill]Stone Striker[/skill]

How is it now? I think Grenth can do some serious damage to people using build based on enchants though which is alot of build as not one build doesn't have one enchant.

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Crap forgot to add Ebon >_> and take out another skill.

[skill]Avatar of Grenth[/skill] [skill]ebon dust aura[/skill] [skill]Heart of Fury[/skill] [skill]Aura of Thorns[/skill] [skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill] [skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill] [skill]Chilling Victory[/skill] [skill]Stone Striker[/skill]

How is it now? I think Grenth can do some serious damage to people using build based on enchants though which is alot of build as not one build doesn't have one enchant. Well, when it comes down to that, [skill]avatar of grenth[/skill] < [skill]ebon dust aura[/skill].

I wouldn't use grenth. Duration isn't worth it. Also, instead of stone striker, consider [skill]staggering force[/skill]

Firzin

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Join Date: Dec 2007

But then what will be my second prof o_O

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But then what will be my second prof o_O You're not obligated to use a second profession in all skill bars. Use what will be most effective to your purpose/synergizes with your skills/attributes. If no elementalist skill does that, so be it.

Firzin

Ascalonian Squire

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So pure Derv is the way to go eh?

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So pure Derv is the way to go eh? If you're running that build, yeah.

Like I said, use skills that will synergize best. If they're not in your profession, then use a secondary to get them. If skills in your class will do the job better, then use those.

Tyla

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I would like to add, go minor runes and only use eight earth prayers
breakpoint for mystic regen is 8 earth prayers and to maintain EDA all the time you only need 9 EP
it would be smart to use a 9/9/12 attribute split with eDA (9 earth prayers, 9 mysticism, 12 scythe mastery)

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I would like to add, go minor runes and only use eight earth prayers
breakpoint for mystic regen is 8 earth prayers and to maintain EDA all the time you only need 9 EP
it would be smart to use a 9/9/12 attribute split with eDA (9 earth prayers, 9 mysticism, 12 scythe mastery) /Agreed, 12/9/9 is the way to go. Runes above minor are over rated. Except Vigor.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Firzin
Crap forgot to add Ebon >_> and take out another skill.

[skill]Avatar of Grenth[/skill] [skill]ebon dust aura[/skill] [skill]Heart of Fury[/skill] [skill]Aura of Thorns[/skill] [skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill] [skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill] [skill]Chilling Victory[/skill] [skill]Stone Striker[/skill]

How is it now? I think Grenth can do some serious damage to people using build based on enchants though which is alot of build as not one build doesn't have one enchant. Only one elite at a time my friend.

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Only one elite at a time my friend. I think he's just displaying what two he's deciding on.

Firzin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

Yea, I'm gonna stick with EDA, but which other skill should I get... hmmm

Edit= Ok, how about one of these [skill]Test of Faith[/skill] [skill]Faithful Intervention[/skill] [skill]Zealous Renewal[/skill] [skill]Conviction[/skill] [skill]Mystic Sandstorm[/skill]

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[skill]faithful intervention[/skill] no doubt.

Firzin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

And one last thing, what should I add for runes? and how should I make my weapons to suit this build? Thanks a lot to everyone who answered up till now.

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Ideal weapon would be damage +15% while enchanted (Strength and Honor I think?), zealous, and with either an enchanting or fortitude grip.

Runes... scythe mastery is an obvious one (probably minor, could go with major if you feel like it though), and probably minor earth prayers as well. I don't think you'd be making use of a mysticism rune with that build much...
You'll want a vigor rune for sure - go for as good a rune as you can afford, they don't stack - and the other two runes should probably be Vitae or something.

If I were running this build personally, I'd use Windwalker insignias, but you may want Survivor instead. Or Radiant, if you go that way (might want to consider Attunement runes instead of Vitae in this case, but tbh more energy isn't really much use for drawn-out battles, energy recovery is).

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Firzin
Ok heres a rough idea of my build.
Scythe Mastery 12+4
Mysticism 12
Earth Prayers 12+3
[skill]Avatar of Grenth[/skill] [skill]Reaper's Sweep[/skill] or [skill]Wounding Strike[/skill] First, you can't get 3 attributes to 12. It's just not possible. Closest would be an 11-10-10 split.

Second, only 1 elite skill per bar.

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Krytan Explorer

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Originally Posted by Sirius-NZ
Ideal weapon would be damage +15% while enchanted (Strength and Honor I think?), zealous, and with either an enchanting or fortitude grip.
Guided by Fate actually...

...and definitely go enchanting if your running a lot of enchantments.

Quote: Originally Posted by I Phoenix I Second, only 1 elite skill per bar. I think he means either or not 2 or 3 elites on one bar.

Anyway, those builds look ok but I wouldn't use 2 superior runes on one build being in the front line you're gonna get spiked sometimes and having 400 life = death. I personally wouldn't even use one superior rune but if you have your heart set on it just use one ... or two majors but not two superiors yikes. Also avatar of Grenth is pretty useless except maybe in PvP. If you wanna use an Avatar use Dwayna, Lyssa or Melandru...there the only really useful ones.

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And one last thing, what should I add for runes? and how should I make my weapons to suit this build? Thanks a lot to everyone who answered up till now. If you end up running more then two enchantments windwalkers if only one or two go with blessed; survivor and radiant are also good choices tho.

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Sir Pandra Pierva

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Join Date: Apr 2007

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For dervish unless I am Running ebon dust aura
I use

An Ebon Scythe, the green Bubal's Grasp
A vamp Scythe, Claw of the Forgotten
A zelous Scythe, Asters's scythe

And also that build isn't to bad even the original is pretty decent