Assassin hard?
Conan The Barbarian
I have all three GW and have made a R/E and a W/M and a D/M and i have been reading on assassins and it seems to me that most people either dont like them or complain how they are too hard to play. Are they really that difficult or does it catch on.
Lima
I'd say they're easier to play than most professions, mainly because the assassin skills invite you to put together deadly attack chains. They may be harder at lower level, but once you have a decent amount of skills then i'd say it was pretty easy. Like with most proffessions though there's always some level of practice that you have to put into them to get used to playin them.
Conan The Barbarian
alright thanks
i guess ill try it out
i guess ill try it out
Bobby2
There are 4 GWs.
The main argument against the Sin is that their most powerful PvP incarnations are TOO EASY to play. Also depending on what game type you're going to do mostly, you'll have to formulate your own opinion on that.
It can be as elaborate/as simple as you want, just as with any other class. Dagger chaining is not too difficult - it's about getting the moment of commitment right, because Sins are quite squishy. A lot of power but very screwed if you misread your opponents.
The main argument against the Sin is that their most powerful PvP incarnations are TOO EASY to play. Also depending on what game type you're going to do mostly, you'll have to formulate your own opinion on that.
It can be as elaborate/as simple as you want, just as with any other class. Dagger chaining is not too difficult - it's about getting the moment of commitment right, because Sins are quite squishy. A lot of power but very screwed if you misread your opponents.
Bowstring Badass
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Originally Posted by Conan The Barbarian
I have all three GW and have made a R/E and a W/M and a D/M and i have been reading on assassins and it seems to me that most people either dont like them or complain how they are too hard to play. Are they really that difficult or does it catch on.
The people complaining on how hard they are to play are the ones who cant roll their face across the keyboard anymore.
You can't see me
The main complaint I see about assassins is that they're IMBA... but that's just a load of useless hot air IMO.
Yeah, it's they're fun to play. Another character slot dedicated to an assassin is a worthwhile make.
Yeah, it's they're fun to play. Another character slot dedicated to an assassin is a worthwhile make.
Proff
The only hard thing about playing a sin is getting invites into groups.
Tyla
sins are easy to play, and yet easy to stop.
Azeren Wrathe
sins in pve are good from lvl 1-15, but then u start fighting mobs that are lvl 20+ with ur naturaly squishy character lol. at that point its fairly hard coz u can be so easily killed and so u have to try to be careful as ur a melee class and are in the middle of the fight. when i was doing quests at lvl 16 with my lvl20 henchies fighting lvl 20+ mobs, i found maybe 1 of my henchies would have died whereas i would be on -60% death penalty. thats the other thing, its easy to die and once u do, the death penalty makes it even harder for u to stay alive, if u get above -15% ur pretty much screwed. HOWEVER once u hit 20 in pve and get a decent build its pretty easy to survive and still do a lot of damage. im 20 and i rarely ever die in missions etc. so all in all id say sins are fairly easy to play, like all classes u just need to have max armour with the right runes and insinias, a decent build, good weapons and then u just pretty much get in a rythem with what skills u use. once ur at that point sins arnt really harder than any other class to play.
P.S. i have a 20 dervish and warrior as well.
P.S. i have a 20 dervish and warrior as well.
Saphatorael
The usual Assassin is just picking a target, then press 1, 2, 3, 4(, 5, 6, 7, maybe even an 8).
Wait 'till recharge, rince and repeat.
Of course there are loads of other factors jumping in between giving you a tougher time. But hard? Nah. As long as you know what you're doing (most notably, not getting yourself killed)
Wait 'till recharge, rince and repeat.
Of course there are loads of other factors jumping in between giving you a tougher time. But hard? Nah. As long as you know what you're doing (most notably, not getting yourself killed)
Issac
Most people complain because they get killed before the even have time to react sometimes. Also a lot of people just make them be like naruto or something.
Teh [prefession]-zorz
Because people try and act like wars and tank the whole group with there -10 armor...And now that people cant BoA the 1-7 skills, people are like "Awww QQ i cant kill anything anymore"
Biostem
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Originally Posted by Conan The Barbarian
I have all three GW and have made a R/E and a W/M and a D/M and i have been reading on assassins and it seems to me that most people either dont like them or complain how they are too hard to play. Are they really that difficult or does it catch on.
It's not that they are hard to play, it's that their entire damage potential relies on choosing skills that can be applied in the correct sequence to maximize damage.
Basically, you want to start w/ a basic skill combo consisting of a good lead attack, off-hand attack, then a dual attack. Once you get a decent combo, you add to it, make sure you have some self healing/self support/utility skills, and you're good to go.
Here's a basic build I use a lot:
[skill]golden fox strike[/skill][skill]golden lotus strike[/skill][skill]wild strike[/skill][skill]death blossom[/skill][skill]moebius strike[/skill][skill]critical eye[/skill][skill]shadow refuge[/skill][skill]critical agility[/skill]
Basically, you want to start w/ a basic skill combo consisting of a good lead attack, off-hand attack, then a dual attack. Once you get a decent combo, you add to it, make sure you have some self healing/self support/utility skills, and you're good to go.
Here's a basic build I use a lot:
[skill]golden fox strike[/skill][skill]golden lotus strike[/skill][skill]wild strike[/skill][skill]death blossom[/skill][skill]moebius strike[/skill][skill]critical eye[/skill][skill]shadow refuge[/skill][skill]critical agility[/skill]
Yanman.be
You play it right? Stuff dies.
You play it wrong? You die.
Simple innit?
You play it wrong? You die.
Simple innit?
LightningHell
I actually daresay in PvE an Assassin is "harder to play" than other classes, if only because the bar for competence for other classes becomes much lower than in PvP, while Assassins do have to worry somewhat.
But at the very top level of play, it's comparatively much easier than any other class.
But at the very top level of play, it's comparatively much easier than any other class.
Sir Pandra Pierva
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Originally Posted by Yanman.be
You play it right? Stuff dies.
You play it wrong? You die.
Simple innit? He's got it perfect. If things are dieing and your alive then its good.
If your dieing then its bad
You play it wrong? You die.
Simple innit? He's got it perfect. If things are dieing and your alive then its good.
If your dieing then its bad
Bobby2
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Originally Posted by LightningHell
But at the very top level of play, it's comparatively much easier than any other class.
Depends very much on the build you're using.
ensoriki
Assassin's not hard.
If you play a Mesmer like a Warrior its going to be hard for you (IW not counted)
Play a warrior like an ele it will be hard.
Classes are only hard IMO if your playing them wrong.
If you play a Mesmer like a Warrior its going to be hard for you (IW not counted)
Play a warrior like an ele it will be hard.
Classes are only hard IMO if your playing them wrong.
Chicken Ftw
No, assassin flaccid. What, someone had to.
Stormlord Alex
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No, assassin flaccid. What, someone had to.
elysiumIX
They're not that hard to play. Only drawback is its squishyness. Even when the henchies are charged first, the mobs sometimes change targets and attack you.
Sir Pandra Pierva
Mobious death blossom takes care of that
Mickey
Sniffy
What Ensoriki said with playing the class like it's supposed to be played said it pretty well. The Assassin places more emphasis on positioning rather than skill usage like the other classes. Basic skill usage for the Assassin is incredibly simple. Though it should be noted, even if it doesn't have much bearing on the discussion, that henchies and heroes can play any class with a reasonable degree of skill, except for Assassins. I've never gotten henchies or heroes of them to play an Assassin that was worth the party slot. Connection? /shrug
They really need a /shrug emote in game....
They really need a /shrug emote in game....
Dutch Masterr
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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
sins are easy to play, and yet easy to stop.
They are hard to stop when they kill you before you even realize you were attacked...if your a good assassin that is.
Assassins are all about timing....you have to watch your target and see what skills they are using and what they are doing. Example: you see a monk cast Guardian and healing another player, so you know that would be a perfect time to attack because they will be left without blocking or defense.
Assassins are all about timing....you have to watch your target and see what skills they are using and what they are doing. Example: you see a monk cast Guardian and healing another player, so you know that would be a perfect time to attack because they will be left without blocking or defense.
RoyalPredator
Huh...Isi t hard?
Depends on your style.
If you can concentrate to the skills, its easy. just find the harmony between defending and attacking.
Assassins have light armors, so they are not too strong. you need something to heal yourself, and a block spell, the best is Critical Defend...or somethign life that.
Yep, and 3-5 stage attack.
Well, try it.
Depends on your style.
If you can concentrate to the skills, its easy. just find the harmony between defending and attacking.
Assassins have light armors, so they are not too strong. you need something to heal yourself, and a block spell, the best is Critical Defend...or somethign life that.
Yep, and 3-5 stage attack.
Well, try it.
moriz
assassins are stupidly easy to play. however, they are (or were, before mobius-->death blossom and critical agility) the only profession that absolutely requires the player to know basic positioning and movement. those two skills are also lacking in most GW players, so they perpetrate the myth that assassins are hard to play.
Bowstring Badass
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Originally Posted by moriz
assassins are stupidly easy to play. however, they are (or were, before mobius-->death blossom and critical agility) the only profession that absolutely requires the player to know basic positioning and movement. those two skills are also lacking in most GW players, so they perpetrate the myth that assassins are hard to play.
But as you said in another thread sin have to invest little to none for defensive skills. Which is true. Positioning and movement became out more when Dervish's came into play because of that nasty scythe.
As far as they are hard to play they aren't. Playing them well is hard to do. Most think that they have seen Naruto do something like charge into a group and win they can. Hence most 'sin hate. And the birth of the term Narutard.
But as you said in another thread sin have to invest little to none for defensive skills. Which is true. Positioning and movement became out more when Dervish's came into play because of that nasty scythe.
As far as they are hard to play they aren't. Playing them well is hard to do. Most think that they have seen Naruto do something like charge into a group and win they can. Hence most 'sin hate. And the birth of the term Narutard.
yui
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Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass
As far as they are hard to play they aren't. Playing them well is hard to do. Most think that they have seen Naruto do something like charge into a group and win they can. Hence most 'sin hate. And the birth of the term Narutard. Playing them well is hard ? Not really, I would rather say that playing them bad is very easy.
fireflyry
It's a question of personal choice and play style, you'll either like it or hate it and my advice is just to run one as it won't take long to figure out if you like the class or not.
Personally I've played all classes and Sin is by far the most fun for me and gets the most game time.
Good luck.
Personally I've played all classes and Sin is by far the most fun for me and gets the most game time.
Good luck.
Konig Des Todes
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Originally Posted by Lima
I'd say they're easier to play than most professions, mainly because the assassin skills invite you to put together deadly attack chains. They may be harder at lower level, but once you have a decent amount of skills then i'd say it was pretty easy. Like with most proffessions though there's always some level of practice that you have to put into them to get used to playin them.
I'd have to agree fully with Lima, only hard part is when your starting a character, once you get skills and max armor its easy to play as long as you know how to chain your attacks. Once you have skills and know how to chain attacks, only hard thing about sins is getting groups because people hate them so much *for some reason 
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RadaArashi
It's not hard to play, just easy to die if you don't understand that 70AL means you will die if you lunge at that pair of Temple Guardians.
Let the tank absorb the damage for you if you plan on moving to the frontline.
Even with +20 AL from Critical Agility, it is still not your role to tank unless your party is prepared for it. Otherwise it will turn in your party mates frustrated from constant Rebirth.
Let the tank absorb the damage for you if you plan on moving to the frontline.
Even with +20 AL from Critical Agility, it is still not your role to tank unless your party is prepared for it. Otherwise it will turn in your party mates frustrated from constant Rebirth.
Lishy
Assassins are very solid when used right and have the ability to use weapons from other professions(Scythe and bow) and do quite good damage.
They are hard to start off as and it is hard to find the right skills, but once you know what you are doing you are on a RAMPAGE!
I usually a run a critical scythe build that makes use of Aura of holy might and vow of strength to get BIG damage every second on enemy's.
While it is not recommended for facing level 24's and 28's because using moebius blossom is much better for enemy's with a lot of armor, it still a very solid strategy.I remember hitting in the hundreds with every attack while still tanking.ITS THAT AWESOME!
They are hard to start off as and it is hard to find the right skills, but once you know what you are doing you are on a RAMPAGE!
I usually a run a critical scythe build that makes use of Aura of holy might and vow of strength to get BIG damage every second on enemy's.
While it is not recommended for facing level 24's and 28's because using moebius blossom is much better for enemy's with a lot of armor, it still a very solid strategy.I remember hitting in the hundreds with every attack while still tanking.ITS THAT AWESOME!
fireflyry
It's only as hard as you choose to make it.
Read up here and on other forums and you should be fine and have a lot of fun.
Just remember, skill dependant, Sins are a majority melee class with very low armor.If your aware of that from the get-go you should be fine.
It's those that are'nt that tend to struggle with the class and it's play-style.
Read up here and on other forums and you should be fine and have a lot of fun.
Just remember, skill dependant, Sins are a majority melee class with very low armor.If your aware of that from the get-go you should be fine.
It's those that are'nt that tend to struggle with the class and it's play-style.