Fix Daze please

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

After doing TA hardcore for the first time in ages, I realized, Daze is too overpowered. After doing about 50 or so rounds, only 2 or so teams didn't have Daze, the rest did, and it is just too powerful if they have a cover condition. Double Cast Time AND Easily Interrupted? It makes doing anything as a caster impossible.

I say, take away one of the effects, either the 2x cast time or easy interrupting, and it will balance this condition out. I hate having to have someone bring Purge Sig or Draw Conditions just for this condition.

Biostem

Biostem

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2007

Or just have the casters or other buffers use condition removal and/or proactive condition protections, like "you cannot be interrupted".

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

There are 14 skills that caused daze. 9 are elite, 1 is pve only. About 5 of them are decent skills. Seeing as there aren't many ways to daze an opponent, and it's very easy to remove daze, I hardly see how it is overpowered.

Isileth

Isileth

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/W

GW is a team game. Take an off monk draw or condition removal.

I pwnd U

I pwnd U

God of Spammers

Join Date: Oct 2005

in the middle of a burning cornfield...

Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)

It's easily removed and combated, especially in TA. As Isileth said have someone else be /Mo and bring a condition removal. Most of them are only 5e so it's not a ton of energy lost.

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

+1, daze aint overpowered, u just failed

oh wait, let's nerf this !!!! pvp asked, pve'll lose something more

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

I think the should nerf Blind.

It makes my wammo useless too!

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
I think the should nerf Blind.

It makes my wammo useless too!
yay, and nerf poison while at it, health bar should never be green -.-

Saphatorael

Saphatorael

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

Quote:
After doing TA hardcore for the first time in ages, I realized, Daze is too overpowered. After doing about 50 or so rounds, only 2 or so teams didn't have Daze, the rest did,...
This just means Dazed is part of the meta.

Quote:
I hate having to have someone bring Purge Sig or Draw Conditions just for this condition.
Too lazy to adapt?

I rest my case.

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

D/

There are other conditions that should be quickly removed/countered. Who DOESN'T bring some sort of removal?

anonymous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

You can remove daze if you remove cripple and blind so I can bash your face in with my warrior. Those are counters to melee, daze is the counter to casters.

Darkobra

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

I'm far, far too lazy to begin to explain what good monking is. And even in my state of extreme laziness, I'd still be able to remove dazed.

Ulterion

Ulterion

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2007

defiinitely noyb

Mo/

Anet is using Aura of Nerf.

Aura of Nerf: While this skill is maintained by arena net, all your power are belong to them. For each whining guild wars player that asks for a nerf, Arena Net will increase the potency of this skill. xD

legion_rat

legion_rat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

668 the neighbor of the beast

TFK

A/

I will be nice (sorta) and say

/unsigned

Conditions are easy to remove, several proffs have the skill to do so, without being monks. Ignore the flamers, just try to adapt.

~the rat~

ShadowsRequiem

ShadowsRequiem

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*

W/E

I think we all know that condition removal is for nubs.

lutz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Battery Powered Best Friends [Vibe]

Me/

Don't get it on you in the first place. Most things that cause daze are elite or impossible to get on you. BHA is so easy to dodge, Spear Swipe is lololololololool obvious (kite away), Stunning Strike is so simple to see from a mile away (just watch the Paragon's Adren), and the sin ones are easy to kite if you have a stance (which you should).
If you do get it on you, hide, then whip out your enchant staff and try to get a fast cast on Dismiss. It shouldn't be covered, anyway, since BHA is the only one with a long-lasting cover, and you shouldn't ever be hit by it unless you suck at the game. If you're whining about BHA, go learn to play GW.

thedeadlyassassin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Tualatin OR

N/A

A/W

according to you, knockdown ruins this game. I mean for about 3 seconds can't do ANYTHING at all? FFS!!!

RotteN

RotteN

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lutz
you shouldn't ever be hit by it unless you suck at the game.
so every monk in top10 a year ago failed horribly at this game because they all got hit by eurosplit's BHA at least once.

Try dodging an arrow from a shortbow that's being pushed in your face (mind you you're usually crippled aswell).

however, i disagree daze is overpowered. It's a condition, it's the easiest thing to remove, ever.

If you whine about daze, take a look at blind : 90% miss chance, 21 skills to cause it over 7 different professions, the 2 most popular skills have a 4 second recharge. But you don't see me crying "OMG NERF !", do you ? I just make sure my mid/backline can remove it, you should do the same. After all, it's a team game indeed.

knoll

knoll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Washington State.

[ToA]

W/

/signed
Who uses condition removal?

Llint

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by knoll
/signed
Who uses condition removal?
wtf u r a nub tere r nbo condions in gw lolllz.

Washi

Washi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta
After doing TA hardcore
Hardcore player: OMG PVP IS SO HARD, TEH MOBS NEVER DAZED ME LIKE THAT....

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

-20% dazed off hand. -20% dazed rune. -50% conditions from purifying veil. Zomg dazed has no effect on you now!

Try running purifying veil, watchful healing and contemplation of purity. Or is that too original for you?

Puebert

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

/notsigned

why?

"I dont like it, get rid of it"

If they remove daze, they have to remove Cracked Armor.

Just cause I don't CA, its dumb.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

So, basically, all but about 2 ppl who responded read my entire post.

I said, I'd rather not have a team member go /Mo, and bring a spell/signet that could be put to something useful.

To all the people that said "Daze is the easiest thing to remove, ever", try removing it when your Dismiss has a 2 second cast time and is easily interrupted.

To all the people that compared it to blind, blind doesn't affect your ability to counter it.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
-20% dazed off hand. -20% dazed rune. -50% conditions from purifying veil. Zomg dazed has no effect on you now!

Try running purifying veil, watchful healing and contemplation of purity. Or is that too original for you?
Ok, I'll just use my handy-dandy 5th weapon set for a dazed off-hand, use up an attunement/vitae rune, and drop a useful spell for purifying viel.

Seems like a lot of work for one condition.

Catrion-Leyt

Catrion-Leyt

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

In this remote place called hell.

Archons Ascendant [Arch]

R/E

Well, shit, let's just fix all conditions...

Disease spreads through creatures. Change that! I shouldn't have to deal with other people's conditions myself.

Poison turns my Health bar green and red is my favorite color. Get rid of it or something.

Blind makes me miss. Be gone!

Oh, Bleeding is fine. My bar stays the same color, pretty much. Although it DOES have degen...

Cracked Armor makes me so weak...I should have at least 75 armor at all times.

I'll stop there. I believe my point was made. Daze is, as stated before, easy to counter and remove. Oh, you say your condition removal has a two second cast time. Get a new one, with less casting time.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta
So, basically, all but about 2 ppl who responded read my entire post.

I said, I'd rather not have a team member go /Mo, and bring a spell/signet that could be put to something useful.

To all the people that said "Daze is the easiest thing to remove, ever", try removing it when your Dismiss has a 2 second cast time and is easily interrupted.

To all the people that compared it to blind, blind doesn't affect your ability to counter it.
I'm sure everyone read the whole thing, it's just your reason is bad. Your asking for a condition to be nerfed because you don't want another team member to bring a condition removal. You can either have a party member bring a condition removal, or you can keep dying to dazed because you don't want to adapt. Either way, it's not an overpowered condition, you just fail at properly countering it.

jaeharys targaryen

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

Picnic Pioneers[asian characters]

E/Mo

Quote:
I hate having to have someone bring Purge Sig or Draw Conditions just for this condition
you hate having one skill that can, depending on the dazer, essentially nullify the usefulness of that character?
also, what sort of bars are you running that you dont have room for draw/purge?

Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
-20% dazed off hand. -20% dazed rune. -50% conditions from purifying veil. Zomg dazed has no effect on you now!

Try running purifying veil, watchful healing and contemplation of purity. Or is that too original for you?
i'm going to hope your not serious.

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

Intended or not, this thread has shown to be flamebait. Therefore, closed.